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timdgreat · 11th July 2003, 09:39 PM

yeah but with the number of times that Sg-1 has showed up somewhere and blown up ships or other things, u would think the G. would start putting out more jaffa to guard there ships and basses, its the logical response:rolly2:

skoon · 11th July 2003, 09:56 PM

G's are arogant remember. Most of their downfalls are caused by it!

timdgreat · 11th July 2003, 10:07 PM

yes i know, thats why so many have been killed off, but i still think that they would learn some at least for the ones that are left, i mean it only makes sense:rolly2:

skoon · 14th July 2003, 11:11 PM

Anyhoo, I usually am bored stiff with Jaffa based stories but I quite liked this one. Am urked that Danny got his memory back so easily though...poor forgotten Jonas...

timdgreat · 15th July 2003, 07:59 PM

well would u prefer that he never got it back?:rolly2:

skoon · 15th July 2003, 10:49 PM

it could have been more gradual, not one minute he's lost it the next he has it...

Colonel, sir! · 16th October 2003, 05:31 PM

hmm, yeah. Well, what a interesting episode, and Im glad they finally addressed Teal'c's use of tratona[sp?] and how it has changed his psyche, as a result of recieving a staff hit. The Jaffa love their juniors, even outspoken ones like Teal'c.?`'.,`i

Glad to actually see the military using sniper fire for once! After six seasons you would think it would be an great addition to their regular issued offworld weapons, which is the P90?

This could be the last of the convienent Daniel plot devices with the whole ascension thing, which is rather dull to keep bringing back, ala Jolinar/Sam. Hopefully it will be takened care of fully by the season's latter half...Hopefully.

Rowan · 16th October 2003, 10:46 PM

They did touch on several old/new plot ideas and concepts in this one. A nice change from a total rehash.

Rowan

beckmen · 17th October 2003, 11:41 AM

It had a good concept going, and some good parts, but I just don't buy O'Neill's command decision. If they would have had RDA full-time they would have went in and helped Teal'c, not just sit there and lay down sniper fire! It's so OOC for him!

Rowan · 17th October 2003, 11:50 AM

Sadly, I think we're going to have to get used to the less-plausable interactions between O'Neill and the rest of the universe - at least in single part episodes. With only a 3 & 1/2 day shooting week for him, there just isn't that much they can pack in. I think that's sad and feel there's a lot of slack that could be taken up by the writers and editors on giving the illusion that Jack is there more than he is, but ...

... they aren't paying me to write the scripts, so I guess my opinions on that matter are moot.

Rowan

Colonel, sir! · 17th October 2003, 06:40 PM

Well, incidently enough, of all the Jack lite episodes, Orpheus thus far is the only post Homecoming ep that actually uses O'Neill more than a few scenes. They have him spread throughout the ep. But the way in which they used the character, or lack of, in the episode itself, Orpheus, seemed unfullfilling of the O'Neill character.

And yes, Evolutions does not count.

Colonel, sir! · 17th October 2003, 06:42 PM

Or Revisions.

beckmen · 20th October 2003, 04:23 AM

I hope the do something where Jack goes into a coma or something for like 5 or 6 episodes in season 8, then they would only have 14 or 15 episodes where Jack is around and they could use RDA MUCH better. I'd rather have him not in half of the episodes at all then have him all of the episodes, but just standing around, only having a few lines and not contributing anything to the episode besides wallpaper effect.

Dave · 20th October 2003, 09:34 PM

Didn't Michael Shanks leave because his character wasn't being used enough? With RDA on light duties, these last few eps are certainly strong Daniel/Teal'c episodes. If any thing I think Sam Carter is being under-used now.

I can understand the people who think that Daniel's memory is a bad plot device, but the way I look at it, if he knew Bra'tac and Ryac were in trouble it would be something that was on his mind and would eventually rise from his subconcious. As long as it isn't something that is going to regularly happen week after week then it's fine.

I liked this episode, though Baal needs to review the way he guards his Stargates. (Almost a whole day and no one noticed those guards were incapacitated.)

pamie · 20th October 2003, 11:34 PM

I really liked this one...some great Daniel and Teal'c stuff...something that I have wanted for a while.

Like some I was also glad that we have got to see more of the effects of Teal'c without junior...very intresting...I see that he also wears less eye make-up too!

Loved the line between Danny and Jack where Jack was trying to give Teal'c a pep talk and Daniel what not peppy enough...made me laugh also the whole jello thing!

As always is great to see Bra'tac...always good to see him.

Overall I really like this one!

16th October 2003, 10:46 PM	#23 (permalink)
Rowan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In the wilds of Puget Sound. Near Seth and Cascade, WA. Posts: 2,480	Touched on ... They did touch on several old/new plot ideas and concepts in this one. A nice change from a total rehash. Rowan

17th October 2003, 11:50 AM	#25 (permalink)
Rowan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In the wilds of Puget Sound. Near Seth and Cascade, WA. Posts: 2,480	Sadly ... Sadly, I think we're going to have to get used to the less-plausable interactions between O'Neill and the rest of the universe - at least in single part episodes. With only a 3 & 1/2 day shooting week for him, there just isn't that much they can pack in. I think that's sad and feel there's a lot of slack that could be taken up by the writers and editors on giving the illusion that Jack is there more than he is, but ... ... they aren't paying me to write the scripts, so I guess my opinions on that matter are moot. Rowan

11th July 2003, 09:39 PM	#16 (permalink)
timdgreat For the Emperor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alexandria VA, USA(Washington DC u idiots) Posts: 3,093	yeah but with the number of times that Sg-1 has showed up somewhere and blown up ships or other things, u would think the G. would start putting out more jaffa to guard there ships and basses, its the logical response:rolly2:

11th July 2003, 09:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	G's are arogant remember. Most of their downfalls are caused by it!

11th July 2003, 10:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
timdgreat For the Emperor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alexandria VA, USA(Washington DC u idiots) Posts: 3,093	yes i know, thats why so many have been killed off, but i still think that they would learn some at least for the ones that are left, i mean it only makes sense:rolly2:

14th July 2003, 11:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	Anyhoo, I usually am bored stiff with Jaffa based stories but I quite liked this one. Am urked that Danny got his memory back so easily though...poor forgotten Jonas...

15th July 2003, 07:59 PM	#20 (permalink)
timdgreat For the Emperor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alexandria VA, USA(Washington DC u idiots) Posts: 3,093	well would u prefer that he never got it back?:rolly2:

15th July 2003, 10:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	it could have been more gradual, not one minute he's lost it the next he has it...

16th October 2003, 05:31 PM	#22 (permalink)
Colonel, sir! Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 17	hmm, yeah. Well, what a interesting episode, and Im glad they finally addressed Teal'c's use of tratona[sp?] and how it has changed his psyche, as a result of recieving a staff hit. The Jaffa love their juniors, even outspoken ones like Teal'c.?`'.,`i Glad to actually see the military using sniper fire for once! After six seasons you would think it would be an great addition to their regular issued offworld weapons, which is the P90? This could be the last of the convienent Daniel plot devices with the whole ascension thing, which is rather dull to keep bringing back, ala Jolinar/Sam. Hopefully it will be takened care of fully by the season's latter half...Hopefully.

17th October 2003, 11:41 AM	#24 (permalink)
beckmen First Prime of Burgstrom Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fredonia, NY Posts: 275	It had a good concept going, and some good parts, but I just don't buy O'Neill's command decision. If they would have had RDA full-time they would have went in and helped Teal'c, not just sit there and lay down sniper fire! It's so OOC for him!

17th October 2003, 06:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
Colonel, sir! Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 17	Well, incidently enough, of all the Jack lite episodes, Orpheus thus far is the only post Homecoming ep that actually uses O'Neill more than a few scenes. They have him spread throughout the ep. But the way in which they used the character, or lack of, in the episode itself, Orpheus, seemed unfullfilling of the O'Neill character. And yes, Evolutions does not count.

17th October 2003, 06:42 PM	#27 (permalink)
Colonel, sir! Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 17	Or Revisions.

20th October 2003, 04:23 AM	#28 (permalink)
beckmen First Prime of Burgstrom Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fredonia, NY Posts: 275	I hope the do something where Jack goes into a coma or something for like 5 or 6 episodes in season 8, then they would only have 14 or 15 episodes where Jack is around and they could use RDA MUCH better. I'd rather have him not in half of the episodes at all then have him all of the episodes, but just standing around, only having a few lines and not contributing anything to the episode besides wallpaper effect.

20th October 2003, 09:34 PM	#29 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,602	Didn't Michael Shanks leave because his character wasn't being used enough? With RDA on light duties, these last few eps are certainly strong Daniel/Teal'c episodes. If any thing I think Sam Carter is being under-used now. I can understand the people who think that Daniel's memory is a bad plot device, but the way I look at it, if he knew Bra'tac and Ryac were in trouble it would be something that was on his mind and would eventually rise from his subconcious. As long as it isn't something that is going to regularly happen week after week then it's fine. I liked this episode, though Baal needs to review the way he guards his Stargates. (Almost a whole day and no one noticed those guards were incapacitated.)

20th October 2003, 11:34 PM	#30 (permalink)
pamie Space Monkey! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: South coast of the UK Posts: 3,091	I really liked this one...some great Daniel and Teal'c stuff...something that I have wanted for a while. Like some I was also glad that we have got to see more of the effects of Teal'c without junior...very intresting...I see that he also wears less eye make-up too! Loved the line between Danny and Jack where Jack was trying to give Teal'c a pep talk and Daniel what not peppy enough...made me laugh also the whole jello thing! As always is great to see Bra'tac...always good to see him. Overall I really like this one!