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Old 6th February 2003, 01:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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January 22, 2003... TheForce.net received a tip a week ago about what word may be included in the official chapter title for Episode III. The site's source states that the current most popular working title for the film uses the word "circle", and it apparently has some direct connection to a line that Vader spoke in Episode IV: "The circle is now complete." [Scoop sent in by 'Internet 24-7'; first appeared on TheForce.net.]

January 23, 2003... By now longtime readers of our Star Wars listings will know to never, ever accept at face value any anonymous scoop unless we stand behind it 100%. Unfortunately, we have no idea if the person who sent us today's scoop has some kind of access to inside info or if our chains are being yanked. Again.

They say that Lucas is going to call the movie Star Wars Episode III: Circle of the Force. After surviving through The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, at this point anything's possible.
Yucky yucky. I hate TPM's title, didn't mind AOTC, but this is just nasty.

What do you think? It doesn't seem to fit with any of the rules we imposed upon ourselves for coming up with a good title the (see Name Episode III.



[edited to add: the above information comes from Corona.bc.ca - http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/sw3.html ]
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Old 7th February 2003, 02:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, even if it DID have the endorsement of TheForce.net behind it, which it doesn't, I'll still take this with a grain of salt. Things "reported" this early in the process are usually just rumors and have little if any credibility.

As for the "title" being proposed, I don't have any problems with it, except that it repeats the phrase "of the" and I honestly think that would do it in. For continuity's sake and pure poetic charm (for lack of a better term) there should only be one "of the" anything in each trilogy.

If Lucas wants to keep the titles of each trilogy similar, then Episode III's title should be something does something, like The Empire Strikes Back, not another something "of the" something.

If Lucas really doesn't give a dren what we think or how his two trilogies fit together in a literary or poetic sense, then he'll call Episode three whatever he damn well pleases.

Cynical, eh?

Re: The Phantom Menace, why didn't you like the title? I thought it was great, especially if you listened to Obi-Wan (like I intuitively did ) and understood at the beginning what he was sensing. This vague, mounting danger to all Jedi was only barely mentioned and we had to remember it and piece it together with the rest. Personally, I initially thought Attack of the Clones was much worse... too cheesey for me, but it really grew on me once I understood Lucas' desire to remind us of the old serial movies of the fifties and sixties. Attack of the Clones is very reminiscent of that time and sensibility.

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Old 9th February 2003, 02:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Regarding the Phantom Menace - I am not sure exactly why I didn't like the title, it just seemed a bit silly. I think it might just be the actual words that were used, as I don't have a problem at all with what the title is actually about. I think maybe it is just camp beyond words as I see it.

I think you are right in there being a likely symmetry in titles between trilogies one and two, and that a phrase in the style of "The Empire Strikes Back" would be needed in that case.

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Well, even if it DID have the endorsement of TheForce.net behind it, which it doesn't, I'll still take this with a grain of salt. Things "reported" this early in the process are usually just rumors and have little if any credibility.
Absolutely, any rumours that come out this early are unlikely to have any truth to them, and even if they do, it is not unusual for someone to have all the facts and still come to the wrong conclusion. I won't start really believing, or at least accepting the possible truth in these rumours until about Christmas 2004!
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Old 8th June 2003, 12:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've seen 'Victory for the Sith' and 'End of the Jedi' touted as possible titles too. I don't think they were leaked from any official source though, just someone elses guesses.
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Old 9th June 2003, 10:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hmm im not so sure that any of the abover mentioned titles would be used none of them sound like something lucas would use, but then again how do i know what lucas will use:rolly2:
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Old 29th June 2003, 03:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Any title will still be open to possible change.

I still remember buying merchandising for the film "Revenge of the Jedi".
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Old 29th June 2003, 04:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Any title will still be open to possible change.

I still remember buying merchandising for the film "Revenge of the Jedi".
Absolutely - I won't start believing title rumours until a few months before the film's release.


And by the way, I was watching a "Cribs" on MTV, and I saw some guy with a "Revenge of the Jedi" cinema poster on his wall. I never realised they got that far with the merchandising of the original name!
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Old 30th June 2003, 07:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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that poster is most likely worth lots of money, oh waht i would do for it:rolly2:
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Those Revenge of the Jedi posters and patches aren't really worth that much anymore, sadly. Lucasfilm even allowed licensed copies to be produced just a few years ago as a kind of salute to the original title. This, and the fact that so many bootleg copies of the original posters were produced, actually reduced the value of the originals. They were worth the most within a year of the film's release and only dropped in value since.

But any word of the new film's title probably won't be "official" until about a year from now, anyway. I usually pay NO attention to rumors, so I doubt I'll be shocked when the official word finally does come out.

Anyone been watching the web cams of the filming?
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fraid not, didnt know there were any:rolly2:
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Old 2nd July 2003, 12:03 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If you subscribe to the online newsletter, they tell you how you can... problem is, they charge for this "hyperspace" style subscription. Not like George has enough of my money already, eh?
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yeah i know seems hes always out for more though:rolly2:
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Old 8th July 2003, 12:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I agree with most everybody here. Until they start posting it everywhere on their website and officially release it, I'm not gonna put any stock in any of the rumours.

And I didn't think the Phantom Menace was _that_ bad of a name, but it doesn't feel like it fits with the earlier trilogy's titles. (that continuity thing again, lol)

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Attack of the clones wasnt that good:rolly2:
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Old 8th July 2003, 09:50 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I still couldn't believe he called it 'Attack of the Clones' until I actually saw it. That was the worst title of all.

'A New Hope' is fairly bland too!

'The Empire Strikes Back' ~ now there is a GOOD title for a film.

How about 'Jedi Apocalypse' or 'Death to the Jedi'?

We had speculation of a title in another thread here though, and I prefer something like 'Dark Side Rising' or 'Fall of the Jedi'. They are more in the style of the previous titles.
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