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gloom_cookie · 13th November 2002, 07:44 AM

how does it hold up?

Personally, I'm feeling a little ...disappointed. With the exception of "conversations with dead people" and "selfless", nothing thus far has impressed me much.. it feels like something is.. missing..

and I hate to say that.. lol.

am I alone in this? .. don't hate me.. :blush:

DreamTraveler · 13th November 2002, 05:33 PM

I completely agree that there is something missing. I think that maybe it's the fact that there is so much confusion going on right now as to what everything means, and where everyone is going to end up in the end. If the writers are doing what I think they're doing, then they are setting us up for a huge ending. So, I think I'll give them a few more episodes before I say that this season is a complete drag.

Highlander II · 13th November 2002, 10:21 PM

IMO - so far, this season is leaps and bounds over S6 - S6 was so depressing and they spent so much time avoiding certain characters and making everything about Buffy (pls don't feed me the line about the show being called 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' b/c I know that - but the show has an ensemble cast and should include the CAST in the story) -- anyway --- I'm liking the stories better for this season.

That could be b/c I like the mysteriousness of it all. I like that we don't know everything that's going on, and I like that it's confusing and that some things just can't be explained yet. But, that's just me.

tabuno · 14th November 2002, 06:54 AM

I really like the new Spike and his struggles with his soul. I love how Buffy is now a counsellor and her trials with students was hilarious for me. I like Xander who is now getting out on his own. These characters are finally growing up, becoming more complex, dealing with even more realistic trials of life. Willow is having the real deal with connecting to the earth, bigtime. Dawn is having to follow in Buffy's footsteps and discovering her own identity in high school. I am connecting with this people, with their situations because of their continuing evolution.

angelle myst · 20th November 2002, 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by Highlander II
That could be b/c I like the mysteriousness of it all. I like that we don't know everything that's going on, and I like that it's confusing and that some things just can't be explained yet. But, that's just me.

Although i loved s6, i'm liking this season too. I also love the mystery, the not knowing, the confusion. I love all the guessing and theorising about possible endings etc, and while i loved the dark angstyness of S6, this season i'm grinning at the end of some of the eps instead of crying (Tab Rasa for example). Its just a lighter feel all around and i think its a nice change

Plus, every time i think of s7 now all i can see in my head is Spike tackling Buffy in 'Him' with the big bazooka and them running around :lol: that was hilarious.

xxx

VAMPette · 23rd November 2002, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by Highlander II
IMO - so far, this season is leaps and bounds over S6 - S6 was so depressing and they spent so much time avoiding certain characters and making everything about Buffy (pls don't feed me the line about the show being called 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' b/c I know that - but the show has an ensemble cast and should include the CAST in the story) -- anyway --- I'm liking the stories better for this season.

Okay I haven't seen any of S7 yet, but I'm guessing if you like it H2, then there's more Spike and Dawn stories than S6!

angelle myst · 23rd November 2002, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by VAMPette

Okay I haven't seen any of S7 yet, but I'm guessing if you like it H2, then there's more Spike and Dawn stories than S6!

Definitely more Dawn, or more of Dawn doing something useful rather than just being 'the "former" key', or 'the slayers little sister', or 'the Whiney One'. Theres more of her this season, more character development. Make of that what you will. As for Spike, he isnt so much as 'Buffys bitch' anymore like a lot of ppl thought in S6, as 'where does Spike fit into all this and how will he fair in the long run?'

Or, thats my take on it.

xxx

Highlander II · 26th November 2002, 04:08 PM

Yeah - Sammy's pretty much got it -- (under the spoiler bar) -

There are more bits about Spike and Dawn - not tossing out anything that'll spoil, but they are more 'useful' this season - and not just ficus plants like last season ---

tabuno · 27th November 2002, 04:34 AM

This season, end of November 2002, Buffy is getting global and the BIG BAD is prevading and exuding throughout the series. This season is dripping with something evil coming that is infecting everything. It's an amazing year that I can't imagine how they can really outdo in the future. This growing sense of unease is really, really big, so big that the audience can really get into it because it impacts not just Sunnydale but everybody, even us viewers in evil's scope.

obcooke · 27th November 2002, 06:07 AM

Well said, tabuno.

If there was anything I could add, it would be that the evil is subtle, sudden and spectacular all at once.

gloom_cookie · 4th December 2002, 01:19 PM

after watching "never leave me" - I'm starting to reconsider what I said about this season being disappointing. I was thinking that the writers were going a little crazy with all the loose ends, but now everythings falling into place.. kind of. I'm really interested to see where the story's going to go now.

tokyogirl · 7th December 2002, 07:20 AM

i think the writers have really done a lot this season and the end of last with character development. i also think that because they're focusing so much on that they couldn't really have a constant battle with a new bad guy this season. so instead we have had to wait to really figure out what's going on. there's always been some mystery each season surronding the new bad guy/girl, but this season i think they're doing a great job of keeping us really guessing and keeping it going for longer.

Highlander II · 8th December 2002, 03:12 PM

Yeah - personally - I like this better - the 'mysteriousness' of it - we know something's coming, but not how, when, where, why... there's so much we 'don't' know that it's interesting and keeps you coming back for the new eps --

That and the fact that they are finding ways to keep ALL of the characters in the stories -

Though, I've read something that I think explains why S4-S6 were so lacking in character development -- (or at least development of characters like Spike, Dawn, Xander) -- Joss wasn't really 'in charge' of the writing (and this is just something I read on a list, I'm not sure how much truth is in this, but it makes sense) -- Marti Noxon and Jane Espenson, apparently, had more say in the overall story-lines - which is why there's such heavy emphasis on Willow and such and less so on Xander and Spike, and later Dawn. (No wonder James wanted to leave in like S4 - I read an article where he said he wanted to move to Angel so his character could be developed more - duh - he was being ignored on the show - grrr argh) -- anyway, like I said - it's just something I read on a list - but it does make sense, and I'm glad Joss decided to take the reins back and really work on these poor ignored characters --

VAMPette · 8th December 2002, 05:58 PM

Well, anything that involves better Spike storylines gets a

from me!

tokyogirl · 9th December 2002, 07:52 AM

i think it might have been interesting with spike on angel, but i'm still a fan of him and buffy gettin together so that wouldn't work out too well. it's weird to think about 'what if' questions. like 'what if sara HAD gotten the role of cordelia?' or 'what if katie holmes had accept the role for buffy?' 'what if james had gone to angel?' 'what if seth green had stayed?'....

13th November 2002, 07:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
gloom_cookie original recipe Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	Your thoughts on Season 7 so far.. how does it hold up? Personally, I'm feeling a little ...disappointed. With the exception of "conversations with dead people" and "selfless", nothing thus far has impressed me much.. it feels like something is.. missing.. and I hate to say that.. lol. am I alone in this? .. don't hate me.. :blush:

14th November 2002, 06:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
tabuno Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 69	So Far So Good I really like the new Spike and his struggles with his soul. I love how Buffy is now a counsellor and her trials with students was hilarious for me. I like Xander who is now getting out on his own. These characters are finally growing up, becoming more complex, dealing with even more realistic trials of life. Willow is having the real deal with connecting to the earth, bigtime. Dawn is having to follow in Buffy's footsteps and discovering her own identity in high school. I am connecting with this people, with their situations because of their continuing evolution.

27th November 2002, 04:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
tabuno Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 69	This Season Is BIG and BAD This season, end of November 2002, Buffy is getting global and the BIG BAD is prevading and exuding throughout the series. This season is dripping with something evil coming that is infecting everything. It's an amazing year that I can't imagine how they can really outdo in the future. This growing sense of unease is really, really big, so big that the audience can really get into it because it impacts not just Sunnydale but everybody, even us viewers in evil's scope.

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13th November 2002, 05:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
DreamTraveler Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 19	I completely agree that there is something missing. I think that maybe it's the fact that there is so much confusion going on right now as to what everything means, and where everyone is going to end up in the end. If the writers are doing what I think they're doing, then they are setting us up for a huge ending. So, I think I'll give them a few more episodes before I say that this season is a complete drag.

13th November 2002, 10:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	IMO - so far, this season is leaps and bounds over S6 - S6 was so depressing and they spent so much time avoiding certain characters and making everything about Buffy (pls don't feed me the line about the show being called 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' b/c I know that - but the show has an ensemble cast and should include the CAST in the story) -- anyway --- I'm liking the stories better for this season. That could be b/c I like the mysteriousness of it all. I like that we don't know everything that's going on, and I like that it's confusing and that some things just can't be explained yet. But, that's just me.

26th November 2002, 04:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	Yeah - Sammy's pretty much got it -- (under the spoiler bar) - There are more bits about Spike and Dawn - not tossing out anything that'll spoil, but they are more 'useful' this season - and not just ficus plants like last season ---

27th November 2002, 06:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	Well said, tabuno. If there was anything I could add, it would be that the evil is subtle, sudden and spectacular all at once.

4th December 2002, 01:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
gloom_cookie original recipe Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	after watching "never leave me" - I'm starting to reconsider what I said about this season being disappointing. I was thinking that the writers were going a little crazy with all the loose ends, but now everythings falling into place.. kind of. I'm really interested to see where the story's going to go now.

7th December 2002, 07:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
tokyogirl krycek's love slave Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: TEXAS!!! Posts: 2,098	i think the writers have really done a lot this season and the end of last with character development. i also think that because they're focusing so much on that they couldn't really have a constant battle with a new bad guy this season. so instead we have had to wait to really figure out what's going on. there's always been some mystery each season surronding the new bad guy/girl, but this season i think they're doing a great job of keeping us really guessing and keeping it going for longer.

8th December 2002, 03:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	Yeah - personally - I like this better - the 'mysteriousness' of it - we know something's coming, but not how, when, where, why... there's so much we 'don't' know that it's interesting and keeps you coming back for the new eps -- That and the fact that they are finding ways to keep ALL of the characters in the stories - Though, I've read something that I think explains why S4-S6 were so lacking in character development -- (or at least development of characters like Spike, Dawn, Xander) -- Joss wasn't really 'in charge' of the writing (and this is just something I read on a list, I'm not sure how much truth is in this, but it makes sense) -- Marti Noxon and Jane Espenson, apparently, had more say in the overall story-lines - which is why there's such heavy emphasis on Willow and such and less so on Xander and Spike, and later Dawn. (No wonder James wanted to leave in like S4 - I read an article where he said he wanted to move to Angel so his character could be developed more - duh - he was being ignored on the show - grrr argh) -- anyway, like I said - it's just something I read on a list - but it does make sense, and I'm glad Joss decided to take the reins back and really work on these poor ignored characters --

8th December 2002, 05:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
VAMPette To the Angel- Mobile! Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 419	Well, anything that involves better Spike storylines gets a from me!

9th December 2002, 07:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
tokyogirl krycek's love slave Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: TEXAS!!! Posts: 2,098	i think it might have been interesting with spike on angel, but i'm still a fan of him and buffy gettin together so that wouldn't work out too well. it's weird to think about 'what if' questions. like 'what if sara HAD gotten the role of cordelia?' or 'what if katie holmes had accept the role for buffy?' 'what if james had gone to angel?' 'what if seth green had stayed?'....