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Old 22nd June 2006, 04:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

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I always thought the "Done" comments were a bit of a let down. It's not as if the bond between Mandorallen/Ce'Nedra, or Errand/Horse, turned out to be of any major importance, is it. I can think of a hundred things of greater importance in the books (take Salmissra's transformation, for example) that did not appear to warrant a "Done".

Nobody ever accused David Eddings of consistency though.
I disagree, Mandorallen's fate was to be Ce'Nedra's champion, as Barak's was to defend Garion. Horse was to be Eriond's partner in the task of redeeming Angarak. Although the first seems to be a minor event, the second is the fulfillment of the entire series. Errand and Horse MUST be together or the prophecy cannot be fulfilled.
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Old 23rd June 2006, 01:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

Also, Horse HAD to be something special as he was stillborn, Garion resurrected him (as he later did with Durnik) in atonement. Durnik and Horse are the only beings in the series to have died and come back.
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Old 28th June 2006, 01:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

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I disagree, Mandorallen's fate was to be Ce'Nedra's champion, as Barak's was to defend Garion. Horse was to be Eriond's partner in the task of redeeming Angarak. Although the first seems to be a minor event, the second is the fulfillment of the entire series. Errand and Horse MUST be together or the prophecy cannot be fulfilled.
I agree with you, but isn't that a bit awkward.

Fate brought together the gem-like princess of Tol Nedra and the dumb but oh so brave knight who brought fright to the hearts of his enemies all over the world.

Fate brought together the Godslayer, the King of the Western Sea and blaah blaah Ruler of whoknowswhat and a fierce and headstrong werebear.

Fate brought together a God and...

A horse?

Go Eddings...
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Old 28th June 2006, 02:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

The Queen of the world needed a Champion

The Godslayer needed a protector until he grew up

The God of Angarak could use a way to explain his rapid movement while he was still largely incognito. (Remember, Eriond started with a hearts and minds campaign only rarely enforced by Zakath and Cyradis. His great strength was his unremarkable appearance, How else did he convince Ce'Nedra to go to Riva ?)
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Old 1st October 2006, 12:04 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

I think that everything that happens in The Belgariad has a significance, small or great. The Prophecy relied on all details!
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Old 2nd October 2006, 03:48 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

if it wasn't for horse Eriond would not have been able to meet the seer, seeing how she could only stay in caves cause of the day light...
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Old 2nd June 2007, 08:20 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

I thought that "Done" meant that that part of the prophecy has come to pass too.

SPOILER

Also.. I read someones spoiler and found out what happens.. (Is still only on King of Murgos) [NOT THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO READ IT] and am really disappointed.. I really wanted our Garion to be The Child Of The Light again..
I did expect Eriond to take his place though.. Even before i read the spoiler it was quite obvious.. I knew as soon as Errand was invited to hear the Orbs message at the start Malloreons. Oh well.. Hmm.. I hate reading books when i don't know what the end is (Strange) Thats why i usually read the back page.


[Someone tell me what happens at the end!!]
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Old 11th July 2007, 01:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

I always looked at horse as the sybol for the god Eriond, I mean Belar got the Bear ie Barack, Aldur the Owl, Salmissra the Snake I mean wean torak and Zandramas died so did the dragon which was the totem for torak, its just easy to see the books that way.

Oh and we dont know for sertain if salmissras transformation by polgara wasnt a "done" moment I mean seeing as the whole perspective was from Garions point of veiw so we would only know wat was going through hes head.
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Old 23rd August 2007, 07:15 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

"done, Clicks, and bells ringing through the stories, wer waypoints of things that were supposed to happen, occur, go in a particular way, or otherwise further "the necessity's" plan. whether it was Ce'nedra bonding to Mandorallen, small by comparison to some other things, but as signifigant in the big picture and Garion laying his hand on the orb at a particular place and time to set on course future events. (if the bond between mandorallen and ce'nedra hadn't formed, then he likely wouldn't have killed the lion who threatened ce'nedra, etc.....

but as it WAS said earlier, the done for the colt, and in the mallorean another done for Garion giving Errand the colt were because they were supposed to be paired. the Colt before anyone else was brought back from Death by garion, that changed him to be under the "special" heading. wasn't given to him by Garion, the gods or the Orb, but by the universe, because of his special circumstances.
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Old 23rd January 2008, 08:48 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

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Going to wake a long rested thread...

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I think one thing that happened there was that some of the orb of aldurs and erionds power transfered to the horse. Maybe orb of aldur was an adapter that moved some erionds power to the horse. Afterwards the horse kind of did long "jumps", simply just skipped from one place to another and it didnt make any "sound" either, so it could have not been Garions power that the horse used. I think it got some of it too as garion woke him up from the dead.
Maybe when you bring someone back from the dead they gain special power? Remember Durnik? After Garion, The Gods and The Orb brought him back after he died he gained the "talent". Maybe its the same with Horse.
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

I hadn't thought of that, evil genius. As far as we know, I don't think anyone else in the world of the Belgariad/Malloreon has been brought back from the dead (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - as I've been saying, I haven't read the books for a while), but that sounds like a pretty good theory, in my opinion.
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

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I hadn't thought of that, evil genius. As far as we know, I don't think anyone else in the world of the Belgariad/Malloreon has been brought back from the dead (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - as I've been saying, I haven't read the books for a while), but that sounds like a pretty good theory, in my opinion.
Actually, Durnik WAS the only human who was brought back from the dead.....the only other creature being Horse, of course.

Garion did other amazing things, too, such as curing that Tolnedran monk's insanity.....
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Old 24th January 2008, 04:25 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

Lol, very true, Mana.
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Old 24th January 2008, 05:13 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

Hehe. There's only two books I haven't ready dealing with that group, and those would be the first two volumes of the Mallorean, so I pretty well know the characters and all.....

As far as the "done" thing goes, I just skimmed by it, noticing only enough to make the story make sense.
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Old 25th January 2008, 09:27 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: meaning of "done" in castle of wizardry

Thats why Durnik is pretty well known in Mallorean series when they were all in Mal Zeth and Zakath introduced them one by one. The "announcer" (I forgot what the guy called) said "'The Duchess of Erat Lady Polgara the Sorceress and her husband Goodman Durnik from Sendaria' the guy said in profound respect 'the man with two lives'"

Im not really sure though cuz only Durnik and Horse was brought back from the dead.
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