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Tabitha · 28th September 2002, 12:49 AM

Uber moppet Jake Lloyd or hunky (apparently) Hayden Christensen?

I wanted to string the little kid in TPM up - I think it was terrible casting, and there were only a few moments in the film when he wasn't absolutely hateful - for example when he was leaving Shmi, I still tear up at that scene.

The portrayal of Anakin in AOTC was much more satisfying. I think in this case, any distaste I had for Anakin was based in the cocky petulance of the character, and not the way he was portrayed, so I think HC gets my vote.

Diamond9697 · 28th September 2002, 02:33 AM

A lot of people didn't like the way Hayden portrayed Anikan and while there were some things that bugged me I can't be sure it wasn't just the character and maybe the way he was directed. I've seen him in things before and he's not that bad an actor. I however did not really like Jake. Nothing against the kid but his portrayal left me totally cold towards the character so I also went with Hayden on this.

Eway · 28th September 2002, 02:55 AM

I really didn't like either of them. I grew to accept them as Anakin and appreciated the story for what it was. Take solice that they didn't detract from the movie too much. I LOVED AOTC so I guess he couldn't have been that bad!!!

Tabitha · 2nd October 2002, 09:29 AM

I agree - AOTC was a superior film, I wonder how much that would affect our decision on this one?

Eway · 2nd October 2002, 09:40 AM

Well, like I said...I really didn't like either actors portrayal of Anakin. I'm just glad the movie "worked" on some level!

Tabitha · 2nd October 2002, 09:45 AM

Okay - you didn't like the portrayal, but could have it been done better? What would the difference have been? I think it would be a hard role for anyone to try, simply because of the 'history' that we all already know.

Eway · 2nd October 2002, 09:53 AM

Well, let me take a little step back and say I was put off by Anakin and his obvious psychological problems. In that respect...maybe Christensen did a good job! I may grow to love his portrayal.

Tabitha · 2nd October 2002, 09:58 AM

Psychological problems - it is obvious that he had serious problems from a very early age - what Anakin doomed from the beginning? Could it have been any other way? The force and jedi training aside, it almost seems that Anakin's background was ever destined to doom him.

Or is that just modern day pseudo-psychology speaking?

sarah2040 · 2nd October 2002, 03:43 PM

I had to choose Hayden as firstly The Phantom Menace was weak film and i didn't particularly like Anakin, he was a little bit annoying. Hayden's acting did seem a little dead at times but that could be representing his psychological problems . I guess what tipped it over is that i think Hayden's pretty cute!! Trust me to go for the looks!

Diamond9697 · 3rd October 2002, 04:04 PM

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Psychological problems - it is obvious that he had serious problems from a very early age - what Anakin doomed from the beginning? Could it have been any other way? The force and jedi training aside, it almost seems that Anakin's background was ever destined to doom him.

I agree with you here. I think with everything he went through as a child coupled with the fact that he had no father figure to speak made it so that he wanted to become someone powerful. So he trains as a Jedi in the hope of being able to protect the people he loves from having bad things happen to them. Then his mother gets killed and he starts a steepening descent into darkness because he maybe comes to think it's the only way he can keep Padme safe. If that made any sense at all.

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Lonewolf89 · 4th October 2002, 04:39 AM

Of the two I liked Hayden a lot better. Don't even get me started on Jake's performance, that would take up way too much space.

Tabitha · 5th October 2002, 09:39 PM

Oh go on Lonewolf, I love to hear rants

Dia - your ideas are interesting there. I wonder if the third film will really essay his reasons - I hope we get a lot of detail on this point.

Diamond9697 · 7th October 2002, 12:32 AM

I'm hoping so too, although it seems that they tend to leave a lot of that kind of stuff to the watchers imagination so we'll just have to wait and see.

oh and RANT! RANT! RANT! :rolly2:

pkgrl · 9th October 2002, 01:21 PM

But you finally got my vote on this one, too. And here's the rant:

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I wanted to string the little kid in TPM up - I think it was terrible casting, and there were only a few moments in the film when he wasn't absolutely hateful - for example when he was leaving Shmi, I still tear up at that scene.

Exactly. Jake just isn't that good an actor. Lucas chose well as far as casting someone who LOOKED like the kid he needed, but Jake's acting is flat, unemotional. And Anakin needed to be EMOTIONAL.

Problem with this is, I don't think it's all Jake's fault. There were times in AOTC that even Natalie's performance was flat and unemotional and that's all on Lucas. His directing is, at times, too heavy handed. His personality is all over these performances. I think Hayden could have been better, too, if there had been another director. Lucas is just too out of touch with today's audiences (today's world, really) and he's too much of a control freak to really allow these awesome performers to do what they do best.

Natalie and Ewan are two of the best actors in the world right now, and I don't think they're really taken seriously anymore because of SW.

Sad but true. And it's not them... it's Lucas.

'Nuff ranting. Later.

Tabitha · 9th October 2002, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by pkgrl
Jake's acting is flat, unemotional. And Anakin needed to be EMOTIONAL.

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Natalie and Ewan are two of the best actors in the world right now, and I don't think they're really taken seriously anymore because of SW. Sad but true. And it's not them... it's Lucas.

I don't think I would go as far as to say that McGregor and Portman are being affected badly because of these choices. I think the effect would be limiting from the point of view of time - they have had to dedicate a great deal of their time to film these movies, and this would obvious prevent them from taking other offers. I recognise that they are both very talented, but I think they were both established enough that these roles will not pigeon hole them.

Lucas's direction does badly misuse their talents though. Particularly in the first film, it seemed like such a waste.

I have an amazing image of Lucas saying "No, no, no, give me less", I wonder how exactly he gets these performances from the actors, and how much is to do with the script. Are the actors allowed any input into the script at all?
Could Lloyd's performance have been better with more skilled direction? Possibly I suppose...

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28th September 2002, 12:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,638	Prequel Poll: Who was the better Anakin? Uber moppet Jake Lloyd or hunky (apparently) Hayden Christensen? I wanted to string the little kid in TPM up - I think it was terrible casting, and there were only a few moments in the film when he wasn't absolutely hateful - for example when he was leaving Shmi, I still tear up at that scene. The portrayal of Anakin in AOTC was much more satisfying. I think in this case, any distaste I had for Anakin was based in the cocky petulance of the character, and not the way he was portrayed, so I think HC gets my vote.

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28th September 2002, 02:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	A lot of people didn't like the way Hayden portrayed Anikan and while there were some things that bugged me I can't be sure it wasn't just the character and maybe the way he was directed. I've seen him in things before and he's not that bad an actor. I however did not really like Jake. Nothing against the kid but his portrayal left me totally cold towards the character so I also went with Hayden on this.

28th September 2002, 02:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Eway Electronic Waymon Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 227	I really didn't like either of them. I grew to accept them as Anakin and appreciated the story for what it was. Take solice that they didn't detract from the movie too much. I LOVED AOTC so I guess he couldn't have been that bad!!!

2nd October 2002, 09:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,638	I agree - AOTC was a superior film, I wonder how much that would affect our decision on this one?

2nd October 2002, 09:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
Eway Electronic Waymon Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 227	Well, like I said...I really didn't like either actors portrayal of Anakin. I'm just glad the movie "worked" on some level!

2nd October 2002, 09:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,638	Okay - you didn't like the portrayal, but could have it been done better? What would the difference have been? I think it would be a hard role for anyone to try, simply because of the 'history' that we all already know.

2nd October 2002, 09:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
Eway Electronic Waymon Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 227	Well, let me take a little step back and say I was put off by Anakin and his obvious psychological problems. In that respect...maybe Christensen did a good job! I may grow to love his portrayal.

2nd October 2002, 09:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,638	Psychological problems - it is obvious that he had serious problems from a very early age - what Anakin doomed from the beginning? Could it have been any other way? The force and jedi training aside, it almost seems that Anakin's background was ever destined to doom him. Or is that just modern day pseudo-psychology speaking?

2nd October 2002, 03:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
sarah2040 Shipper Queen Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Devon Posts: 1,491	I had to choose Hayden as firstly The Phantom Menace was weak film and i didn't particularly like Anakin, he was a little bit annoying. Hayden's acting did seem a little dead at times but that could be representing his psychological problems . I guess what tipped it over is that i think Hayden's pretty cute!! Trust me to go for the looks!

4th October 2002, 04:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Lonewolf89 Fear is the mind killer. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Flatplanet Cafe Posts: 1,608	Of the two I liked Hayden a lot better. Don't even get me started on Jake's performance, that would take up way too much space.

5th October 2002, 09:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,638	Oh go on Lonewolf, I love to hear rants Dia - your ideas are interesting there. I wonder if the third film will really essay his reasons - I hope we get a lot of detail on this point.

7th October 2002, 12:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	I'm hoping so too, although it seems that they tend to leave a lot of that kind of stuff to the watchers imagination so we'll just have to wait and see. oh and RANT! RANT! RANT! :rolly2: