PETITION for SEASON 7

[jeane]

There isn't SCIFI show's anymore !!!! The TV's executives are killing this kind of show one by one...


Brad said in a chat with SJHW that season 7 only happens if people really watch the show in SCIFI;
RDA said that if they shoot in LA he will be in the show;
MS absence is not making great difference;
CN is doing OK;
Mitology still is very rich and powerfull;
S&J romance can be VERY explored like M&S in X Files;


SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH A SEASON 7 ????????????????

MS exit is not like DD's in X files. This aversion about something new is very bad for the show. Fans should not have this kind of paradigm and be open for the changes because the writers have done a good job with jonas character and player.

[Hatshepsut]

Originally posted by jeane
MS exit is not like DD's in X files. This aversion about something new is very bad for the show. Fans should not have this kind of paradigm and be open for the changes because the writers have done a good job with jonas character and player.

From Another Site:

Regardless of the reasons for C.N./J.Q.'s joining the programme, his addition to S.G.-1 took the show
beyond the limits of credibility.

I'm prepared to suspend my disbelief as regards the existence of
the Stargate and wormhole travel, even though it would take a mass
the size of the planet Jupiter to provide enough energy to create a
wormhole with the diameter of a pinhead...

But that a Government organization, intimately involved with
National Security, would allow an alien, who has proved himself to be
a threat to the National Security of his own world, to be a member
of a front-line team of this world, is simply not believable by any
stretch of the imagination. 8-(

The Disillusioned One

And with respect, in that Daniel Jackson was one of the two leading characters in the film, and thus in the T.V. programme, his loss from the show is exactly the same as Fox Mulder's.

The X-Files became pretty tedious after he left, too. I watched the first few episodes, especially as I'd enjoyed 'Terminator 2', but the programme's vital spark had just died, somehow - don't know how or why, it just did - and I couldn't get interested in it. Haven't watched it since.

'Abyss' excepted, it sounds like 'Stargate S.G. -1' has jumped the shark, too, sadly. All the really good stories are to be found in fan fic. now.

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:

[webmouse]

Originally posted by jeane
There isn't SCIFI show's anymore !!!! The TV's executives are killing this kind of show one by one...


Brad said in a chat with SJHW that season 7 only happens if people really watch the show in SCIFI;
RDA said that if they shoot in LA he will be in the show;
MS absence is not making great difference;
CN is doing OK;
Mitology still is very rich and powerfull;
S&J romance can be VERY explored like M&S in X Files;


SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH A SEASON 7 ????????????????

MS exit is not like DD's in X files. This aversion about something new is very bad for the show. Fans should not have this kind of paradigm and be open for the changes because the writers have done a good job with jonas character and player.

[webmouse]

Losing my marbles here -- sent the above without making the necessary comments :blush:

S6 is ok, but that is all. I'm watching it, but if I missed an episode I wouldn't be that upset. Somehow the new team dynamic just isn't working for me. I'm trying to give the new guy a chance, but Jonas just isn't making much of an emotional appeal in the way MS did. Probably the writers' fault -- they really haven't given the lad much to do that's creditable or interesting.

MS's absence is making a difference. Daniel's transcended self isn't satisfying in the way his mortal self was. He was conscience of the show and Jonas just isn't designed to fill that role.

The shippers who want to explore a S&J romance ala M&S in X-files are forgetting that it would be a complete violation of military rules. I wouldn't just have to "suspend my disbelief" but take it out and hang it by the neck until dead. Too much like soap opera.

IF the production moves to L.A. then we keep O'Neill, but it is filmed in Vancouver. So is it "no" to Vancouver or "no" to RDA? Asking an entire production company to move to keep one actor to maintain a cast dynamic for one more season seems like a lot to ask.

At some point, minus the lead characters brought over from the original film, minus the location, minus other members of cast and crew who may move on to other projects -- well, it ceases to be SG1.

There comes a time to let a show go, to let it end well with plenty of opportunities for feature films and spin-offs. The Star Trek shows have all gone through this and the franchise is still going strong (although I find "Enterprise" far less engaging than its predecessors). "Dr. Who" went on way past its time and we just came to accept its eccentricities, but I have never felt any great loyalty to watch every single episode and there are whole segments I tuned out because I didn't like the particular incarnation of the Doctor.

Yes, fans have to be willing to accept changes -- but that includes letting a show come to an end with its ratings still high enough to fuel future projects. If SG1 can't keep a 7th season at the same quality as the first 5 (I'm withholding judgment on S6), then it dies a slow, ugly death grasping at straws. I don't want to see that for SG1.

[Rowan]

Okay... one of the major reasons SG-1 is shot in Canada is cost. please note the other Sci-Fi channel shows are also shot there: Outer Limits, Dark Skies, ext, with the exception of Farscape where Aus. is even cheaper. They can't afford to shoot in the US and I doubt RDA is gonna put his career before his family for another year.

SG-1 was about a team of four and one of them isn't there anymore. Jonas may be another character, but he is not 'one of the team' in my book. Sorry Personal opinion, but that's the way it is.

I have yet to see much mythology. We had some Goa'uld torture, but everything else has been NID or similar. No visiting new planets, cultures, etc. Kalowna was a 'rehash' of Earth history so not much stretch there.

Jack and Sam as a 'thing' will kill the very last attempt at keeping this show realistic: the military aspect. One of the few things still going for it, IMHO, and even that's been pretty well stretched. Good shows like "Moonlighting'. etc, have been killed by ship once the chemistry of the characters has changed.

I do love this show. But right now, it's not quite the thing I fell in love with. If it continues on the way it is right now, I would rather see it go than prolong something which is not longer the program I started watching.

Please realize this is my personal opinion and not that of ASci-Fi or anyone else. Your Milage May Vary.

Rowan

[webmouse]

Well, Rowan, at least two of us are of the same mind.

[Hatshepsut]

Make that three...

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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[Texane]

Ya know, JQ is just fine, and I didn't expect him to be. I miss DJ, but season 5 was so bad, I just can't seem to get excited about season 6. I'm tired of listening to where RDA wants to live, and I just don't care anymore. AT & CJ can't carry a 4-person team alone. And where the hell is Janet?

How about three really quality movies?

*with good subplot lines that add up to a great movie
*that have much better scripts for the actors to work together as a team
*that gives the characters room to grow
*which takes the plotline BACK TO THE STARS, with more Egyptology or other cultures, great badguys (in skirts with gaudy hand jewelry, of course) (thereby leaving the conspiracies to the X-files reruns).

Everyone else makes threequels . . . why not Stargate?

[Hatshepsut]

Add in a live-and-kicking Dr. Jackson and ditch the Colonan and I'm with you there, Texane

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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[webmouse]

And again we grand ladies are of the same mind. I suppose we need someone to say something controversial again, but frankly I can't think of anything to argue with here.

[Hatshepsut]

Be thankful for small mercies, m'dear.

Come to think of it, that's actually quite a large one...!

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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[imported_space monkey]

i agree with u guys. stargate without DJ is no stargate at all. i'm along way from watching S5 let alone S6 but it doesnt sound like im missing much. 6 years is a good length for a show. i will miss it but there will be other things. RIP SG-1

[Sphinx]

At the risk of getting flamed I disagree, I still really enjoy watching new episodes of stargate. I too, was a little uncertain how Jonas would get introduced, but to me the writers have done brilliantly with a very bad situation. We all would have liked to see the original four team members stay to the end but the fact that MS decided to leave meant the team dynamic of 4 would no longer be there.

Jonas hasn't had it easy, in the first 6 episodes of season 6 he's been punched up by Teal'c, ignored by Jack, teased by Carter (thinking Nightwalkers). You can see he's trying to be part of the team and gradually he's winning them over. He'll never replace Daniel. I know that, you know that, and I believe the writers and producers know that.

I've listened to all the "Abyss" ravings but frankly the episode wasn't that good even though Daniel was back. To me it seemed more of a "let's get Daniel back to please the fans" episode than an actual requirement of the story.

Reading through the latest TV Zone SG-1 Special makes you realise the hard work that's put into the show from the art, musical scores, CG and the actual acting.

I really hate all this Stargate Bashing. Episode Bashing I can deal with. Just thought I'd balance the opinion and raise the stakes

[Rowan]

Sphinx, there won't be any flaming on this list. I get cranky about that sort of thing. That's why I've got the blue aliens.

As for opinions: That's something we all have and there's no problem with that or expressing them. It's had to define when an opinion slids over into bashing, though. I have a feeling that might be dependent on your own perspective on the statements.

I really have seen 'Stargate Bashing' here on the forums. What I've seen has been some discontent with Season 6 and the major changes that have taken place in it. That's somethig that bound to happen when a formula that has been in place for several years has radical changes made to it.

So as long as we all 'agree to disagree' with polite words and gestures, I think we're still doing okay here.

Rowan

[Hatshepsut]

I think a lot of the irritation stems from the fact that, as Sphinx says:

"the writers have done brilliantly with a very bad situation. "

1. The very bad situation is entirely of their own making. The fact that M.S. chose to leave was largely forced on him by the way the character of Dr. Jackson was being continually marginalised over the previous two years and that none of T.P.T.B. seemed disposed to give him the time of day when he voiced his concerns about this. They appeared to be unwilling and/or unable to accommodate those concerns.

Faced with having to fill the void of their own creating, they decided, unbelievably, to replace him with a character who is about as plausible as Shrek would be as a replacement for Dopey in 'Snow-White and the Seven Dwarves'.

2. While the writers made no efforts to maintain and develop a viable, original and much loved character, they have happily pulled out all the stops as regards cramming the implausible new square peg into the vacant comfortably rounded hole. Whether they have done brilliantly or not is a matter of opinion. The fact they were suddenly prepared to exert themselves in this way really, really grates, like fingernails down a blackboard.

Just my two penn'orth.

Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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