1.01 & 1.02: Emissary Part 1 & 2 - Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums

Annette · 21st June 2002, 12:05 PM

Benjamin Sisko takes command of station Deep Space 9, putting him in the midst of an ongoing conflict between the Bajorans and the Cardassians. Shortly thereafter, Sisko discovers the existence of the wormhole, and inadvertently becomes the Emissary, a major figure in the Bajoran religion.

annette

Dave · 21st June 2002, 01:53 PM

This my favourite ST series pilot episode, and one of the best episodes of all.

Great special effects, first orb experience, first time Odo shapeshifts, we meet all the series regulars, runabouts and the wormhole.

And the understated classic hard sci-fi message: Advanced species (prophets) will seem like gods to those less advanced.

Maria8475 · 21st June 2002, 05:51 PM

I'm still undecided about whether or not it's my fave pilot but it's definetly close.

I did immediately like The Kira/Sisko interaction (and of course O'Brien warning him before he went to talk to her for the first time - that was CLASSIC!!)

jom · 7th May 2004, 06:13 AM

OK, I finally got to see these episodes for the first time in I don't know how many years. Just a question: When or where did ANYONE say that Sisko was the "Emissary"? I must have missed it somewhere but for the life of me I can't remember where in the two parter it was mentioned. ARGH! :rolly2:

In fact, in subsequent episodes I don't know that anyone has even mentioned it so far. I KNOW (for a fact) it eventually does get brought up but so far in these repeats on SpikeTV I haven't yet seen/heard it.

Anyone?

jom

Dave · 7th May 2004, 08:50 AM

Without watching it again I can't be certain, but I'm sure that when he is taken inside the wormhole and speaks to the prophets/wormhole aliens they call him 'Emissary'.

Obviously, at this point in the series that means nothing. It only gains any significance much later in the series when the Sisko's fate is tied to the prophets/wormhole aliens more closely.And we discover that Sisko's mother was a prophet/wormhole alien.

jom · 7th May 2004, 03:25 PM

Thanks!

Yeah, I remember some of the things that later happened in the series and there was even one episode where some Bajorian claimed HE was the Emissary...but later proven wrong.

I just found it odd that no one mentioned to Sisko he was this Emissary (I must have somehow missed that portion of the show). But if that is true how did ANYONE else know he was the Emissary? So far (in the repeats anyway) nobody has mentioned it. I do know that later Kira talks to Sisko about it but where/when did it become known to all?

Just curious.

jom

Eway · 29th December 2005, 10:37 AM

Kai Opaka says "Ironic. One who does not wish to be among us is to be the emissary." during their meeting on the planet.

This is my first time to see this episode.

I figured I might as well give DS9 a chance...and I do not know better place than the beginning to start.

I just got all of season 1 in...I've been pleasantly suprised after the pilot...we'll see.

Dave · 29th December 2005, 05:35 PM

It's a long time ago, but I remember being really impressed with the pilot. I still think it is one of the best series openers, though 'Caretaker' and 'Broken Bow' are also very good.

I was less impressed with the first season but stick with DS9 as it gets better and better IMHO and is my favourite series.

21st June 2002, 12:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Annette This is Star - my honey!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: West Midlands Posts: 5,944	1.1 & 1.2: Emissary Part 1 & 2 Benjamin Sisko takes command of station Deep Space 9, putting him in the midst of an ongoing conflict between the Bajorans and the Cardassians. Shortly thereafter, Sisko discovers the existence of the wormhole, and inadvertently becomes the Emissary, a major figure in the Bajoran religion. annette

21st June 2002, 01:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,595	This my favourite ST series pilot episode, and one of the best episodes of all. Great special effects, first orb experience, first time Odo shapeshifts, we meet all the series regulars, runabouts and the wormhole. And the understated classic hard sci-fi message: Advanced species (prophets) will seem like gods to those less advanced.

21st June 2002, 05:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Maria8475 It goes on..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,690	I'm still undecided about whether or not it's my fave pilot but it's definetly close. I did immediately like The Kira/Sisko interaction (and of course O'Brien warning him before he went to talk to her for the first time - that was CLASSIC!!)

7th May 2004, 06:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
jom Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8	OK, I finally got to see these episodes for the first time in I don't know how many years. Just a question: When or where did ANYONE say that Sisko was the "Emissary"? I must have missed it somewhere but for the life of me I can't remember where in the two parter it was mentioned. ARGH! :rolly2: In fact, in subsequent episodes I don't know that anyone has even mentioned it so far. I KNOW (for a fact) it eventually does get brought up but so far in these repeats on SpikeTV I haven't yet seen/heard it. Anyone? jom

7th May 2004, 08:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,595	Without watching it again I can't be certain, but I'm sure that when he is taken inside the wormhole and speaks to the prophets/wormhole aliens they call him 'Emissary'. Obviously, at this point in the series that means nothing. It only gains any significance much later in the series when the Sisko's fate is tied to the prophets/wormhole aliens more closely.And we discover that Sisko's mother was a prophet/wormhole alien.

7th May 2004, 03:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
jom Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8	Thanks! Yeah, I remember some of the things that later happened in the series and there was even one episode where some Bajorian claimed HE was the Emissary...but later proven wrong. I just found it odd that no one mentioned to Sisko he was this Emissary (I must have somehow missed that portion of the show). But if that is true how did ANYONE else know he was the Emissary? So far (in the repeats anyway) nobody has mentioned it. I do know that later Kira talks to Sisko about it but where/when did it become known to all? Just curious. jom

29th December 2005, 10:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Eway Electronic Waymon Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 227	Kai Opaka says "Ironic. One who does not wish to be among us is to be the emissary." during their meeting on the planet. This is my first time to see this episode. I figured I might as well give DS9 a chance...and I do not know better place than the beginning to start. I just got all of season 1 in...I've been pleasantly suprised after the pilot...we'll see.

29th December 2005, 05:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,595	It's a long time ago, but I remember being really impressed with the pilot. I still think it is one of the best series openers, though 'Caretaker' and 'Broken Bow' are also very good. I was less impressed with the first season but stick with DS9 as it gets better and better IMHO and is my favourite series.