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PTeppic · 16th May 2002, 10:39 PM

So - he said, in the third person, to the great unatmed masses of the internet - what do we think the glyph sequence is for the planet of the Tauri, that planet they call "Earth"?

[Just the first six is needed BTW... for obvious reasons.]

I think I have seen in at least three places (but it would be too easy to tell you where!)

System Lord Gypsy · 16th May 2002, 10:46 PM

Damn. Now I know why I hate you Pteppic <g>. I've seen it. Just got to remember where now.

gypsy

System Lord Gypsy · 17th May 2002, 02:20 AM

OK. PTeppic. Don't hate you anymore. I think I've remembered one of the places I saw the glyph sequence but due to Ausgate being down I can't get to it. I think you know where I mean.

Gypsy

PTeppic · 17th May 2002, 07:52 AM

One of them is trivially obvious, of course... the other two more difficult. I still need to re-find them myself of course...

Tabitha · 17th May 2002, 09:50 AM

I don't want to sound stupid here, but lets say I know the answer - how exactly would I go about describing it here? DO each of the glyphs have proper names, or would I just be saying things like "The one that looks a bit like a wheelbarrow" etc?

I don't know the answer - I could probably find it on my dvd's if I gave it a bash, just curious to know how I might answer.

System Lord Gypsy · 17th May 2002, 09:02 PM

The glyphs are all constellations, or most are, so yes, they do all have names, ie, Cancer.

PTeppic, I guess you worked out where on Ausgate I mean? <g>

Gypsy

PTeppic · 17th May 2002, 10:06 PM

Gypsy - actually no, I was thinking of, in order:

1) the movie (in the caves when Daniel and Sha're learn to communicate [ooo-er] and then kawalski finds the cartouche
[Postscript - I just checked, we don't see enough of it to actually see the return address

:blush: ]

2) some of the episodes where we clearly see the address for Earth (including one of the Tok'ra eps)

Tabitha - yeah, they all have names. They can all be found and named on the AusGate site (when it comes back up - or I am sure I can arrange for some GIF-based tutelage).

However, I have now found two separate episodes that CLEARLY show the glyphs. They are definitely differently filmed sequences, since one is in the dark (There But For the Grace of God) and one is sandy (The Tok'ra Part 2). And they both have the same sequence, but different POO glyphs.

And, alas, the third glyph is new. It may be the one for Chulak - I will have to check. The others are:

Auriga, Cetus, (new glyph), Cancer, Scutum, Eridanus

System Lord Gypsy · 18th May 2002, 10:29 AM

Ah. You meant you found them in episodes. I've found them on the web a few times, just can't remember where though.

Gypsy

PTeppic · 18th May 2002, 11:09 AM

The big question then: do they agree with the above list, and (perhaps more importantly) is there a name for the new glyph?

Mastergoauld · 27th May 2002, 12:04 AM

The sequence is

Auriga / Cetus / Centaurus / Cancer / Scutum / Eridanus

and can see it clearly in the episod "solitudes"...

(and the "new glyph" is well chulack POO)

PTeppic · 27th May 2002, 12:22 AM

Where do we see the Chulak P.O.O.
I know it isn't Abydos - we see that one in Children of the Gods.

As for Solitudes - I will have to watch again. Let's here it for DVD!

Edit: Oops - blind as a tree. Yup, I now see - it is not a "new glyph" after all. Thanks. And yes, Solitudes shows them clearly - though for me it was "clearly" the same sequence as before. I just had not recognised Centaurus! My reference glyphs are slightly badly drawn.

Thanks for the help though - it means my question has been categorically answered!

PTeppic · 27th May 2002, 07:37 AM

In fact, let's here it for continuity for a change!!

They actually DO dial the "Earth" each time they dial - and this very clearly shown in at least three different episodes where we can see the full address (under different physical conditions, so it is not just stock footage), and in several more episodes where we see partial footage.

And just to recap, the Earth address is:

Auriga, Cetus, Centaurus, Cancer, Scutum, Eridanus

Jerikho · 29th May 2002, 01:29 AM

Say, uh, do the symbols actually depict Earth's location?

I mean, the 6 symbols are supposed to locate Earth in a 3-dimensional (2 for the X axis, 2 for the Y axis and 2 for the Z axis).
But did the makers of the show actually chose constellations in the sky that fit that function. Or did they just randomly chose constellations that would not make any sense?

(Basically, I'm asking
is Earth in between Auriga and Cetus,
Centaurus and Cancer,
and Scutum and Eridanus?)

PTeppic · 29th May 2002, 07:41 AM

I understand the question, and have wondered this myself. Originally I was going to investigate, but on the spur of the moment have done some pondering, and I think the answer is almost certainly not.

Why? Because, if I am not mistaken, all the "constellation" glyphs on the Stargate are found in the northern hemisphere, some at quite high declination (or ascension, or whatever - near "north"). Which means they are all on "one side" of our planet, however far away. Half of the glyphs would have to "on the other side" of Earth, for it to be real. BUT, this is estimation - I have not worked it out. I do have some star-maps somewhere though...

NB. How come there are no very southerly constellations, only visible from southern hemisphere? Ooops to continuity for that one!

shazstar · 29th May 2002, 09:09 AM

A thought just struck me, the glyphs on the antarctic gate, are they different to the original? What about the antarctic p.o.o? Which constellation is that?

16th May 2002, 10:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,104	Earth's address? So - he said, in the third person, to the great unatmed masses of the internet - what do we think the glyph sequence is for the planet of the Tauri, that planet they call "Earth"? [Just the first six is needed BTW... for obvious reasons.] I think I have seen in at least three places (but it would be too easy to tell you where!)

16th May 2002, 10:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
System Lord Gypsy What is an Oprah????? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 425	Damn. Now I know why I hate you Pteppic <g>. I've seen it. Just got to remember where now. gypsy

17th May 2002, 02:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
System Lord Gypsy What is an Oprah????? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 425	OK. PTeppic. Don't hate you anymore. I think I've remembered one of the places I saw the glyph sequence but due to Ausgate being down I can't get to it. I think you know where I mean. Gypsy

17th May 2002, 07:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,104	One of them is trivially obvious, of course... the other two more difficult. I still need to re-find them myself of course...

17th May 2002, 09:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,638	I don't want to sound stupid here, but lets say I know the answer - how exactly would I go about describing it here? DO each of the glyphs have proper names, or would I just be saying things like "The one that looks a bit like a wheelbarrow" etc? I don't know the answer - I could probably find it on my dvd's if I gave it a bash, just curious to know how I might answer.

17th May 2002, 09:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
System Lord Gypsy What is an Oprah????? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 425	The glyphs are all constellations, or most are, so yes, they do all have names, ie, Cancer. PTeppic, I guess you worked out where on Ausgate I mean? <g> Gypsy

17th May 2002, 10:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,104	Gypsy - actually no, I was thinking of, in order: 1) the movie (in the caves when Daniel and Sha're learn to communicate [ooo-er] and then kawalski finds the cartouche [Postscript - I just checked, we don't see enough of it to actually see the return address :blush: ] 2) some of the episodes where we clearly see the address for Earth (including one of the Tok'ra eps) Tabitha - yeah, they all have names. They can all be found and named on the AusGate site (when it comes back up - or I am sure I can arrange for some GIF-based tutelage). However, I have now found two separate episodes that CLEARLY show the glyphs. They are definitely differently filmed sequences, since one is in the dark (There But For the Grace of God) and one is sandy (The Tok'ra Part 2). And they both have the same sequence, but different POO glyphs. And, alas, the third glyph is new. It may be the one for Chulak - I will have to check. The others are: Auriga, Cetus, (new glyph), Cancer, Scutum, Eridanus

18th May 2002, 10:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
System Lord Gypsy What is an Oprah????? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 425	Ah. You meant you found them in episodes. I've found them on the web a few times, just can't remember where though. Gypsy

18th May 2002, 11:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,104	The big question then: do they agree with the above list, and (perhaps more importantly) is there a name for the new glyph?

27th May 2002, 12:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mastergoauld Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: France Posts: 7	The sequence is Auriga / Cetus / Centaurus / Cancer / Scutum / Eridanus and can see it clearly in the episod "solitudes"... (and the "new glyph" is well chulack POO)

27th May 2002, 12:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,104	Where do we see the Chulak P.O.O. I know it isn't Abydos - we see that one in Children of the Gods. As for Solitudes - I will have to watch again. Let's here it for DVD! Edit: Oops - blind as a tree. Yup, I now see - it is not a "new glyph" after all. Thanks. And yes, Solitudes shows them clearly - though for me it was "clearly" the same sequence as before. I just had not recognised Centaurus! My reference glyphs are slightly badly drawn. Thanks for the help though - it means my question has been categorically answered!

27th May 2002, 07:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,104	In fact, let's here it for continuity for a change!! They actually DO dial the "Earth" each time they dial - and this very clearly shown in at least three different episodes where we can see the full address (under different physical conditions, so it is not just stock footage), and in several more episodes where we see partial footage. And just to recap, the Earth address is: Auriga, Cetus, Centaurus, Cancer, Scutum, Eridanus

29th May 2002, 01:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
Jerikho Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 23	Say, uh, do the symbols actually depict Earth's location? I mean, the 6 symbols are supposed to locate Earth in a 3-dimensional (2 for the X axis, 2 for the Y axis and 2 for the Z axis). But did the makers of the show actually chose constellations in the sky that fit that function. Or did they just randomly chose constellations that would not make any sense? (Basically, I'm asking is Earth in between Auriga and Cetus, Centaurus and Cancer, and Scutum and Eridanus?)

29th May 2002, 07:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,104	I understand the question, and have wondered this myself. Originally I was going to investigate, but on the spur of the moment have done some pondering, and I think the answer is almost certainly not. Why? Because, if I am not mistaken, all the "constellation" glyphs on the Stargate are found in the northern hemisphere, some at quite high declination (or ascension, or whatever - near "north"). Which means they are all on "one side" of our planet, however far away. Half of the glyphs would have to "on the other side" of Earth, for it to be real. BUT, this is estimation - I have not worked it out. I do have some star-maps somewhere though... NB. How come there are no very southerly constellations, only visible from southern hemisphere? Ooops to continuity for that one!

29th May 2002, 09:09 AM	#15 (permalink)
shazstar Flygirl Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,213	A thought just struck me, the glyphs on the antarctic gate, are they different to the original? What about the antarctic p.o.o? Which constellation is that?