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Neo · 22nd April 2002, 01:51 AM

I was watching the Voy episode "Death Wish" and Q mentions that the Q helped to start a 100 year war between the Vulcans and the Romulans. Could this be the same war that Earth fights with the Romulans as it could work in Enterprise that both of them must fight the Romulans and not just Starfleet

Dave · 24th April 2002, 01:23 AM

According to my "Star Trek Chronology", the 'Romulan Wars' ended in 2160 with the Battle of Cheron, a humiliating defeat at the hands of 'Earth forces'. I guess the Vulcans could have helped Earth during this war. It only says that Earth forces won that particular battle, and that Earth fought the wars, but it doesn't say they did it alone. 'Balance of Terror' TOS is the source of this.

However, the UFP was formed the following year, and this is only about 10 years after the events in 'Enterprise' so this war could not last 100 years.

On the other hand it says that Klingon first contact occurred in 2218, when we saw it happen in 'Broken Bow' ENT.

But, I thought then, and I still think now, that he was referring to the Vulcan Reformation or Time of Awakening. At the time of Surak, Vulcan disidents who still clung to warrior ways left Vulcan to form the Romulan Star Empire. Previous to this exodus they had engaged in terrible and destructive wars, using the terrifying weapon of war known as the 'Stone of Gol' -- 'Gambit' TNG.

This all happened about 2,000 years ago, so a hundred year war between Vulcan and Romulus would be possible. Difficult though, I expect, since neither seemed to have Warp capable ships at the time.

I expect that ST:Nemesis will throw some light onto this.

Highlander II · 25th April 2002, 12:14 AM

ahhhh - the curse of the pre-established canon and the wrap-around story arcs strikes again!

not that they goofed - just that when ya try to put all the stuff in some kind of linear timeline - it doesn't always work out --

i like having dates for events in tv shows -

and ya know - it's weird - i can remember some tv-based dates, but i can't remember some historical dates i was supposed to learn for school -- oh well ----

ray gower · 25th April 2002, 12:23 AM

Just a thought.

Our own 'hundred year war', only lasted thirty.

Dave · 25th April 2002, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ray gower
Just a thought.

Our own 'hundred year war', only lasted thirty.

That's known as lateral thinking!

22nd April 2002, 01:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	Vulcan-Romulan War I was watching the Voy episode "Death Wish" and Q mentions that the Q helped to start a 100 year war between the Vulcans and the Romulans. Could this be the same war that Earth fights with the Romulans as it could work in Enterprise that both of them must fight the Romulans and not just Starfleet

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24th April 2002, 01:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,429	According to my "Star Trek Chronology", the 'Romulan Wars' ended in 2160 with the Battle of Cheron, a humiliating defeat at the hands of 'Earth forces'. I guess the Vulcans could have helped Earth during this war. It only says that Earth forces won that particular battle, and that Earth fought the wars, but it doesn't say they did it alone. 'Balance of Terror' TOS is the source of this. However, the UFP was formed the following year, and this is only about 10 years after the events in 'Enterprise' so this war could not last 100 years. On the other hand it says that Klingon first contact occurred in 2218, when we saw it happen in 'Broken Bow' ENT. But, I thought then, and I still think now, that he was referring to the Vulcan Reformation or Time of Awakening. At the time of Surak, Vulcan disidents who still clung to warrior ways left Vulcan to form the Romulan Star Empire. Previous to this exodus they had engaged in terrible and destructive wars, using the terrifying weapon of war known as the 'Stone of Gol' -- 'Gambit' TNG. This all happened about 2,000 years ago, so a hundred year war between Vulcan and Romulus would be possible. Difficult though, I expect, since neither seemed to have Warp capable ships at the time. I expect that ST:Nemesis will throw some light onto this.

25th April 2002, 12:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,470	ahhhh - the curse of the pre-established canon and the wrap-around story arcs strikes again! not that they goofed - just that when ya try to put all the stuff in some kind of linear timeline - it doesn't always work out -- i like having dates for events in tv shows - and ya know - it's weird - i can remember some tv-based dates, but i can't remember some historical dates i was supposed to learn for school -- oh well ----

25th April 2002, 12:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
ray gower Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gwynedd Posts: 3,585	Just a thought. Our own 'hundred year war', only lasted thirty.