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Qwxy · 20th April 2002, 04:47 PM

im not sure if anyone has asked this before but regardless of wether or not Voyager was a family ship or not it should still of had a ten forward shouldnt it?
ten forward on the enterprise-D was a place not only for the families but for the crew to relax and to basicaly communicate with other people in this there wasn't one hold on im gonna check my fact files

ray gower · 20th April 2002, 05:12 PM

Think you'll find that 'Ten Forward' is literally a rhyming of the location (deck 10 at the front).

Voyager had an equivalent, Neelix's Mess, which was the result of combining the crews and officers wardrooms into one large cabin, part of the Captains suite if I remember. As such Ten Forward makes little sense- not on deck ten nor at the front.

Thinking about it. I'd be interested in where the other wardrooms are. TNG never shows them, yet they must logically exist. They certainly appear to on Enterprise.

Neo · 20th April 2002, 11:59 PM

Voyager was a lot smaller than the ent D as well...

Qwxy · 21st April 2002, 12:00 AM

just gotta check what deck it was on (cant do it now cause parents asleep) but ten forward was definately at the front
in the middle of the most forward part of the saucer section is where ten forward is. (remember that epiode where picard is trapped there after going back for his saddle?)

Neo · 21st April 2002, 12:23 AM

Thats right... good episode that was

Qwxy · 21st April 2002, 01:59 AM

wow 4 once someone knew what i was on about it must be a miracle

Dave · 21st April 2002, 10:20 PM

I can confirm that the 'ST:TNG Technical Manual' has the 'Ten Forward Lounge' at the very front bulge of the saucer section, in the middle, 10 decks down from the top.

It mentions an 'Aft Observation Lounge' directly behind the Main Bridge, and the 'Captain's Ready Room' but nothing else.

The Galaxy class starship is HUGE though, plenty of room for anything you care to include. Plans shown by Geordi in one episode apparently included a 'Cetacean Navigation Room'.

Neo · 21st April 2002, 11:58 PM

u have anything like blue prints for voyager dave ???

Dave · 22nd April 2002, 10:27 PM

I don't think so, I'll have a look though. It must be possible to obtain such a thing if you wanted them.

ray gower · 22nd April 2002, 11:55 PM

Will a schematic and deck by deck listing do?

Neelix's Mess was on Deck 2 and was formerly the Captains private dining room- Official Speak for be nice to the natives room, hence the size.

Qwxy · 23rd April 2002, 08:29 PM

i think they will be including a deck by deck thing in the official star trek fact files for Voyager soon as they have already done it for the enterprise-D and started it the the origional enterprise but due to lack of money i have had 2 cancel my subscription so i wont get them

but the TNG tech manual does have some bits wrong also fact files are in colour

Qwxy · 23rd April 2002, 08:42 PM

the picture is a scan i just did from my factfiles the squares show where ten forward is
also Galaxy class starships have a 'reck deck' located at the rear of deck 7.

ray gower · 2nd May 2002, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neo
u have anything like blue prints for voyager dave ???

These are about as good as I can find.
Voyager Details

The schematics are desktops courtesy stinsv, the rest rescued from a now defunct site

Dave · 2nd May 2002, 10:55 PM

Why, you almost see Neelix cooking on those!

ray gower · 2nd May 2002, 11:33 PM

Well thankee kind Sor!

Now for my question:-

All the sources I can find claim that Voyager in common with all the larger ships include an 'Aero Wing' shuttle on the underside of the saucer. It's the jigsaw shaped piece on the ventral plan. (They also claim the Bridge also forms a self-powered warp capable emergency shuttle, which is getting too extreme.)

Have they ever used or mentioned it?

20th April 2002, 04:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Qwxy The Star Trek Oracle Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U.K in Basingstoke Posts: 280	Ten-Forward and Voyager im not sure if anyone has asked this before but regardless of wether or not Voyager was a family ship or not it should still of had a ten forward shouldnt it? ten forward on the enterprise-D was a place not only for the families but for the crew to relax and to basicaly communicate with other people in this there wasn't one hold on im gonna check my fact files

23rd April 2002, 08:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
Qwxy The Star Trek Oracle Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U.K in Basingstoke Posts: 280	the picture is a scan i just did from my factfiles the squares show where ten forward is also Galaxy class starships have a 'reck deck' located at the rear of deck 7. Attached Images

20th April 2002, 05:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
ray gower Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gwynedd Posts: 3,591	Think you'll find that 'Ten Forward' is literally a rhyming of the location (deck 10 at the front). Voyager had an equivalent, Neelix's Mess, which was the result of combining the crews and officers wardrooms into one large cabin, part of the Captains suite if I remember. As such Ten Forward makes little sense- not on deck ten nor at the front. Thinking about it. I'd be interested in where the other wardrooms are. TNG never shows them, yet they must logically exist. They certainly appear to on Enterprise.

20th April 2002, 11:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	Voyager was a lot smaller than the ent D as well...

21st April 2002, 12:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Qwxy The Star Trek Oracle Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U.K in Basingstoke Posts: 280	just gotta check what deck it was on (cant do it now cause parents asleep) but ten forward was definately at the front in the middle of the most forward part of the saucer section is where ten forward is. (remember that epiode where picard is trapped there after going back for his saddle?)

21st April 2002, 12:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	Thats right... good episode that was

21st April 2002, 01:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
Qwxy The Star Trek Oracle Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U.K in Basingstoke Posts: 280	wow 4 once someone knew what i was on about it must be a miracle

21st April 2002, 10:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,443	I can confirm that the 'ST:TNG Technical Manual' has the 'Ten Forward Lounge' at the very front bulge of the saucer section, in the middle, 10 decks down from the top. It mentions an 'Aft Observation Lounge' directly behind the Main Bridge, and the 'Captain's Ready Room' but nothing else. The Galaxy class starship is HUGE though, plenty of room for anything you care to include. Plans shown by Geordi in one episode apparently included a 'Cetacean Navigation Room'.

21st April 2002, 11:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	u have anything like blue prints for voyager dave ???

22nd April 2002, 10:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,443	I don't think so, I'll have a look though. It must be possible to obtain such a thing if you wanted them.

22nd April 2002, 11:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
ray gower Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gwynedd Posts: 3,591	Will a schematic and deck by deck listing do? Neelix's Mess was on Deck 2 and was formerly the Captains private dining room- Official Speak for be nice to the natives room, hence the size.

23rd April 2002, 08:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Qwxy The Star Trek Oracle Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U.K in Basingstoke Posts: 280	i think they will be including a deck by deck thing in the official star trek fact files for Voyager soon as they have already done it for the enterprise-D and started it the the origional enterprise but due to lack of money i have had 2 cancel my subscription so i wont get them but the TNG tech manual does have some bits wrong also fact files are in colour

2nd May 2002, 10:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,443	Why, you almost see Neelix cooking on those!

2nd May 2002, 11:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
ray gower Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gwynedd Posts: 3,591	Well thankee kind Sor! Now for my question:- All the sources I can find claim that Voyager in common with all the larger ships include an 'Aero Wing' shuttle on the underside of the saucer. It's the jigsaw shaped piece on the ventral plan. (They also claim the Bridge also forms a self-powered warp capable emergency shuttle, which is getting too extreme.) Have they ever used or mentioned it?