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| The Cat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Malaysia
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? It's a close tie between Elric of Melnibone and Ulrich von Bek but I'll go with Elric first. The Elric books were my first proper introduction to Moorcock and it was him that made me look out for the rest of them. He's such a different sort of hero. An albino prince who is doomed and who's motives are often less than noble. Has a sword without which he's absolutely weak and you wonder who exactly is the master in this relationship. There's some of the old sword and sorcery magic of writers like Robert Howard but you also have a much more human hero. I met Ulrich von Bek in Warhound and the World's Pain. An old friend had given me the book in my first year of law school and I remember being very drawn to the story and the role of Lucifer. But Lovecraft and his works happened and I went back to Von Bek only after reading Elric. |
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| Iron Price Payer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? Corum for me. Just a personal preference. I got a lot out of those books and they influenced me for a long time. Well, they probably are still influencing me. A classic of scifi/fantasy as far as Im concerned. |
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| Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: West Virginia
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? I had to pick Hawkmoon. Elric is probably the superior literary creation, but he's just too damn depressing for my personal tastes. I find it interesting that it was noted above that Elric is Moorcock's favorite and Hawkmoon his least favorite. That probably explains why I really don't enjoy most of Moorcock's work. I can see the merit in it, but I don't enjoy it. The first Hawkmoon series I really liked, the second not so much. I seem to recall enjoying the Corum books too, but its been a long time, probably 15 years or so now. |
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| Science fiction fantasy Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? My favorite would be Corum Jhalen Irsei, the Vadhagh Prince in the Scarlet Robe. Possibly because "The Swords Trilogy" was the first of the Moorcock books I read, possibly because he was the last of his kind (for the most part), but most likely because the device of the Hand and Eye and his summoning his last enemy to fight his next enemy. Initially, I didn't like the following three books as well, but after a few years I began to read all six together as a complete story instead of as the original three and the derivations. I am drawn to his personal tragedy, as someone said earlier. Elric is close, close, close second. I was intrigued with the glimpse of him (and Erokese, and Hawkmoon) in the scenes of The Vanishing Tower, and was really drawn to the idea of Stormbringer and the tragedy inherent in elric's saga. Actually, I think some of the big "unifying moments" for the Eternal Champion are in the first three Corum books, not only with the three incarnations fighting together at the Vanishing Tower, but as Corum and Jhary pass through universes projected like quickly-changing movie screens looking into the lives of different incarnations. I highly recommend reading the Corum books again. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stirlingshire
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| Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: York
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? For me its Corum, but I gotta say Runestaff is my favorite of the books. Count Brass ( for some reason i always think of Sean Connery) is better than any of the champions and so is Jharry-a-Connell, ooohh and D'averc. Which poses the question. Who is the best companion? also, who is the best champions token totty? |
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| Noise Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Isle of Wight
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? out of that list it is hard to choose but it would have to be Jerry Cornelius purely because he live on a diet of hallucinogens and chocolate biscuits but I have to go with Urlik Skarsol fave companion is a tough choice Jharry has that air of mystery about him but Moonglum seems just a bit more dependable |
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| Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? Quote:
And hello, Urlik, and welcome to the Chronicles! Glad to have another Moorcock fan on board! | |
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| Noise Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Isle of Wight
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? thanks for the warm welcome ![]() I've been reading Moorcock for about 30 years (first book was Warriors of Mars and as soon as I finished it I went out and got Lord of the Spiders and Masters of the Pit and then every Moorcock book I saw in jumble sales and 2nd hand shops and those I couldn't find I borrowed from the library including The Golden Barge, Gloriana: The Unfullfilled Queen, Byzantium Endures and The Laughter of Carthage. I prefer his fantasy writing :\) |
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| Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas
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| Re: Favourite Eternal Champion?? Yes, I think a lot of people feel that way. I have an enormous fondness for his fantasy; less so for his early sf (though there's some very nice stuff in with there, nonetheless... certainly some of his concepts seem to be much stronger than the actual writing, in some cases, but he also has some stunning tableaux, as well) -- but I think I've come to really appreciate his later writing, as it is so richly textured and I can savor the ideas, the story, those superb tableaux, and the meaty prose, altogether.... |
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