non-sg-1 fanfic

[shu_hunter]

is it kind of blasphemous to write a stargate story using elements from the show and putting them together, without putting in Sg-1?

~Shu Hunter
:upto: stargate fan{atic}

[Rowan]

It could be an interesting experiment. I'm not sure how well it would be recieved if posted here, however, sine this is the SG Fic Forum.

Maybe we could consider opening up a generlized writer's forum for non-genere specific writing.

I'll pass the idea along.

Rowan

[Anni]

Shu I am writing a novel which only touches on SG1 (The Fab Four) minimally. It's principal characters are nothing to do with the show, but I use elements of the show as an environment etc. No it's not blasphemous to write a fic and leave them out and I don't think the fan fic section is wholly about SG1. You can write a fic about the Stargate universe if you like and if people object to the fact that SG1 are not in it, then they are very sad folk indeed.

Just my opinion!

[2muchtvs]

i'm with anni, besides, by the time an author puts their own spin on the sg 1 characters, they are often different than the real characters on tv.

like some of the jack/sam stuff, etc...

doesn't mean that it shouldn't be posted here.

and that is just my opinion

but i'm still somewhat new so, i only get like a 1/4 vote.

[Tabitha]

Well, I will read it for one!

:wave:

[Rowan]

Okay... I get everyone's drift. I never said there would be a problem nor did I say I wouldn't read it. I was giving folks a chance to say 'Yea' or 'Nay'.

The 'Yea's' have it.

Rowan

[skydiver]

i've written a couple of stories set in the universe and 'commenting' on the eps...and jack & co never really pop up.

I don't see it as blasphemous but rather an exploration of the universe. I mean, think about it realistically...everything interesting in the SGC happens while jack, sam, danny & teal'c are within jogging distance of the control room? or while hammy's there???

It could be fun to see things from a differing perspective.


Just so anyone isn't 'disappointed' i would simply put in the header that it's an original story and set in the universe but doesn't feature SG-1

[shu_hunter]

CHARACTERS

Orbanian Urrone - Jaylin (f) 11 yrs (see Learning Curve)

Air Force Second Lieutenant - Michael (m) 19 yrs

Tok'ra - Charlie (m) 11 yrs

Mekkan - Darren (m) 14 yrs

- - - - - - - - - -

Story starts with Charlie and Darren on Darren's planet, near the gate, talking. (note - Charlie was on Mekka in the first place because the Mekkans were experiencing a plague, and they were friends with the Tau'ri, who, of course are friends with the Tok'ra, so the Tau'ri sent the Tok'ra to Mekka for potential hosts.)
Suddenly, the gate activates. They run and hide behind *object*, and gate engages. There's a few moments, and then the gate shuts down. Darren's about to get up, but Charlie stops him. When Charlie looks, he sees 4 Reetou rebels, discussing an attack on the planet.(note - Charlie can see and hear reetou because he was genetically engineered to serve as an intermediary between a representative of the Central Authority of the Reetou to warn the tau'ri of the impending reetou rebel attack. See Show and Tell) The Reetou split up, and then Charlie rushes towards the gate. Darren follows him, with no clue of what's going on. He asks Charlie, who's dialling the DHD, but he hushes him up, but then Charlie turns around and rushes to complete the address and activates the gate. Charlie runs as fast as he can into the event horizon, and Darren follows him, with still no clue of what's going on. (note - Darren's never been through the stargate.)
Charlie and Darren came out the other side, and Charlie continues running. He calls to Darren to run in the opposite direction. Darren complies, but as he turns back, he sees Charlie get shot with a blue glowing projectile coming from the stargate, and Charlie is knocked down. Darren sees imprints in the sand coming towards him. He runs as fast as he can, swerving back and forth, but he's knocked down by some invisible force. He's turned over, and being pinned down by his arms, he feels something standing over him, but all he sees is the sun. Suddenly, a shadow falls over him, and the thing standing over him becomes visible. It's like a giant bug, dark green with oval red eyes coming from stalks on the side of its trapezoid-shaped head, with a multi-barrelled weapon pointed at his head. (Reetou) The creature seems to realize it's been spotted, so it turns its head and immediately gets blown apart into greenish offshoots.
The Reetou was blown apart by a T.E.R. (Transphase Eradication Rod), used by a Tok'ra. With the Tok'ra is an Orbanian Urrone, a Air Force Second Lieutenant, and a Major. (Note - Michael was assigned to escort Jaylin to meet the Tok'ra so she could learn about them for her society.)
Charlie tells the other Tok'ra about the impending attack on Darren's homeworld, so the Tok'ra dissolves the tunnels. (Note - there was only the other tok'ra and two others there anyway - they were mostly there to meet Jaylin, and partly to check up on naquedah deposits.) Then Charlie dials the DHD, heading to the tok'ra base to get reinforcements and TERs. Darren's excited because this is his second time going through the gate. Jaylin's excited to learn more about the Tok'ra.
But when they arrive on the planet, they find it's been under goa'uld attack, probably Anubis. The base hasn't been dissolved, so the Charlie, the other two Tok'ra, and the Major go inside to look for survivors, weapons, and tunnel crystals. Also to dissolve the complex. Michael, Darren, and Jaylin stay on the surface.
After a while, Charlie comes up, and he's in a hurry again. It turns out that Jaffa patrols are still in the tunnels, also looking for survivors. The Major and one Tok'ra were either killed or captured by the Jaffa, the other Tok'ra died in the deconstruction of the tunnels. In case more Jaffa are patrolling the area, Charlie, Michael, Darren and Jaylin evacuate to a remote world. Charlie managed to salvage a Ribbon Device, 2 Zat'n'katels, and some tunnel crystals.
Once on the new planet, they set up camp. It's night on the planet, and Michael and Darren are tired. The new plan is to explore the possible planets the Tok'ra could've escaped to, and find help to destroy the reetou on Mekka before they destroy his world. (Note - each reetou rebel carries a cross-phasal explosive with the destructive force of a small nuclear weapon. See Show and Tell)

And that's what I've got so far. If anyone can correct me, or suggest something, let me know. Or, better yet, give me a conclusion(I'm still working on that).

I hope you guys don't mind using you as sort of a refinery. Just some questions - what is the youngest age and/or lowest rank that someone would be allowed to gate travel - with an accompenement, of course. I figured standard airmen wouldn't be allowed, so that's why I made him a second leutenant.
Also, I felt it was necessary to use an Orbanian (see Learning Curve). I thought it would be almost necessary for the orbanian society to learn about other worlds, and what better escort than the planet that first made contact with them?
I added Charlie because (1)I wanted to have a Tok'ra character and (2)I wanted to have reetou and since Charlie has the ability to percieve them, it works out well.
I added Michael solely to give a military presence. If anyone can give him more meaning, I'm open to suggestions.
I don't really know the purpose of Darren. I think I'm going to make the story revolve around him. (p.s. Mekka is a planet I made up. I'm thinking early 20th century development.)

Thanks! This is my first story, but I've wanted to pick up on loose ends like the Orbanians and the Reetou and the Foothold aliens (see foothold) and probably eventually a Reol. There's just so many dropped alien civilizations that I wanted to use them.

~Shu Hunter
:upto: stargate fan{atic}

[skydiver]

I think it's a really good outline. Which is pretty much what it is. Translate your ideas into prose and it'll be a cool story.

- what is the youngest age and/or lowest rank that someone would be allowed to gate travel - with an accompenement, of course. I figured standard airmen wouldn't be allowed, so that's why I made him a second leutenant.

if a person graduates the air force academy they come out a second lieutenant. however if they don't do the officer training they can be airmen or sargents or airmen. there's officers (the lt.'s and above) and the non commissioned officers.
Rowan can definitely answer this but commissioned officers are teh folks that have more leadership training, schooling and the such. YOu have to be a college graduate to even be considered
a non-com is someone that walks into the recruitment office and signs up. GENERALLY they're the ones that do the lesser duties, cooking, cleaning....the grunt work.

again, rowan IS the best source for this kind of info

Also, I felt it was necessary to use an Orbanian (see Learning Curve). I thought it would be almost necessary for the orbanian society to learn about other worlds, and what better escort than the planet that first made contact with them?
I added Charlie because (1)I wanted to have a Tok'ra character and (2)I wanted to have reetou and since Charlie has the ability to percieve them, it works out well.
I added Michael solely to give a military presence. If anyone can give him more meaning, I'm open to suggestions.
I don't really know the purpose of Darren. I think I'm going to make the story revolve around him. (p.s. Mekka is a planet I made up. I'm thinking early 20th century development.)

there's nothing wrong with any of the other original characters.but to flesh them out more you might, while you're writing the story, give them a past, a back story. where did they come from, what do they look like, do they like macaroni and cheese
little bits of info that can make them more three dimensional.

[PTeppic]

Originally posted by skydiver
what is the youngest age and/or lowest rank that someone would be allowed to gate travel

Two factors at work here:
a) abilities - and this can be very mixed, sine we have different specialities in some of the SG teams. For the more military ones, NCOs may be quite common, since one thing "grunts" are good for is dying! Its the old "un-named security member in the away team" scenario from Star Trek. Life expectancy shorter than Wizard of Oz joke near RDA.

b) security - since theoretically this is (above?) a maximum security facility, they won't want to bother clearing anyone they don't have to, and the hgher the officer already, depending on mission history, the higher they may have already been cleared.

[Rowan]

A point here for the enlisted man or woman.

Not just anyone can walk in to the recruitment office and sign up. You have to have at least a High School Diploma or a GED and score high enough on the ASVAB [Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery] to enlist, certainly to enlist in the more specilzed fields. More and more promotions is being based on additional education outside the military.

It's an fact that all NCO's [Non-Commissioned Officers] are enlisted but not all enlisted are NCO's. 'Enlisted ranks' run from E-1 [basic trainee] to E-9 [Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant Major] which is the equivlent of 'Colonel' in the enlisted ranks. Anywhere you have a Colonel or above for a command, the Colonel has a Sergeant Major to help run the show.

NCO's begin at the rank of E-4 or Corporal [in the Army] and Senior Airman [Air Force] and goes through E-9. Junior NCO's are E-4 through E-6. You become a senior NCO at E-7 and above. Here you're looking at at least 10 years into a person's military career.

'Grunts', as you so affectionately call then, is slang for 'infantry'. I can easily see anywhere from an very experienced E-5 through and E-7 on a team. I'll use medics as an example. I was still pulling field duty as a E-6 and occosionally as a E-7. Special Forces Medical Specilists [SF Medics] as usually E-7's or E-8's.

So... sorry, but we enlisted are not disposable. Officers may decide an over all plan and give the orders, but we NCO's figures out the best way to get them done and then see that it happens.

Without us, the military would grind to a halt.

Rowan

MSG/1SG - E-8, US Army [ret] after 21+ years

[shazstar]

LOL...

Nice explanation there Rowan and I have no doubt whatsoever that you are completly and utterly right.