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obcooke · 28th April 2002, 09:22 PM

Now, now RogueFaith, don't take HighlanderII wrong.

H2 is a big fan of things making sense, even in fantasy. She likes for the episodes to mesh without apparent error, characters to have realistic motivations for their actions and for all the characters to have a share in developing the stories.

Occasionally, we try to remind her that it's just a show, but she seems to think that that is no excuse for being sloppy.

Most of us are pretty casual here and treat each other with familiarity. Don't let an off-hand comment make you think that some one is being short or rude. In fact, ASciFi.com is one of the few discussion forums that enforce rules of civility and politeness.

Back on topic:

Perhaps the fact that Dawn and Glory were "wild cards" in our reality - they weren't a natural part of our world - Buffy was somehow unable to foresee anything about them.

RogueFaith · 28th April 2002, 09:55 PM

Ok sorry dude I'll try to be less reactive..I wish TV shows made a lil more sense sometimes too...it gets a little frustrating when things dont always mesh and you wonder what would happen if they did

Vampyre · 28th April 2002, 10:04 PM

Damn I'm too late to get involved in that little confrontation there.

I think that as Buffy has progressed as a slayer she no longer needs help from the PTB.

RogueFaith · 28th April 2002, 11:02 PM

yea I think youre right Vampyre...Buffy is a much better slayer now then she was before and she no longer needs the PTB

Highlander II · 29th April 2002, 03:01 AM

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originally posted by obcooke
Occasionally, we try to remind her that it's just a show, but she seems to think that that is no excuse for being sloppy.

It is just a show, and NO that's not an excuse for being sloppy - (yes, this is slighty OT, but still in the realm of my question in a round about way) - i've read/heard/etc in a number of places on a number of shows where the film crew and directors, etc. do things as 'shortcuts' thinking that 'the fans won't notice' - but guess what - they always do! the fans have time to pick over little things like that and they do, and they notice that Xander's hair wasn't quite the same in this shot that's supposed to be 2 seconds after the previous shot, or that there were two bites out of that sandwich in the last frame, and now there is only one - viewers see that stuff, and the PTB at the shows don't think they will - they're wrong -- and yeah, that's just little stuff - these little bits don't bother me as much as big honkin' continuity errors that occur b/c ppl writing in later seasons either haven't seen the show before, so they don't know what's going on, or they've forgotten -- (see MacGyver and Highlander -> Highlander Endgame - the HL stuff is here, the MacGyver stuff, you'll have to go to yahoogroups to find) --

now - Joss Whedon hasn't really had this bit 'continuity' problem - mostly b/c the writing team has been pretty solid and most of the ppl there now were there at the beginning, or many of them were - so they all know what's been going on -- not only that, but I think Joss treats the show like his baby and doesn't let anything happen w/o his knowledge -- i like that -

now- back to the "Prophecy Girl" bit - i'm fine with Buffy not having dream and premonitions, but i'd like an explanation for it - if they're gonna just suddenly stop, wouldn't Buffy be worried about them? tho she hasn't even mentioned them since season 3 (maybe 4 if you count the season finale) --

Vampyre · 30th April 2002, 05:17 PM

I think Buffy has too much on her plate to worry about dreams.

Highlander II · 30th April 2002, 10:46 PM

dreams are important -- one should never have so much to worry about that they have no time for dreams -

and i'm not talking about 'accomplishments' per se (tho those are important too) - i'm talking about just having dreams - those random ones that most of us have --

a la - Buffy and Angel on the beach - that type of thing --

i mean - does Buffy still dream about Angel? does she think about Riley at all? does she dream about Spike? Xander? Willow? Tara? Dawn? her mother?

and they don't have to be prophecy dreams - just dreams --

Vampyre · 1st May 2002, 08:23 PM

Yeah i used to enjoy seeing her dreams.

Highlander II · 1st May 2002, 11:25 PM

yeah - me too --

kinda why i started the thread - i wanted to know where they went -- hey, Joss - did you forget?? what's up??

oh well - one more thing that fell through the loophole of a lack of continuity --

Vampyre · 5th May 2002, 11:59 PM

Joss will bring them back when she needs them.

Highlander II · 17th March 2003, 04:55 PM

Okay - this is a different 'whatever happened to...' -

Where did Miss Kitty Fantastico go?? She was around in S4 - but um - think she ran away or something -- where did she go?

markpud · 19th March 2003, 01:12 PM

aww poor kitty, she did dissapear of the face of the earth!

Highlander II · 19th March 2003, 03:49 PM

I know - she was in Restless, and I think that's the last time we see her - poor cat.

I was working on a fic and Spike asked Tara a question about a dog and I remembered the cat - (the logic really works if you read the story, which you can do when I'm done with it) - anyway - put Miss Kitty Fantastico (sort of) into my story -

Just goes to show - some people just shouldn't have pets -- or, some ppl shouldn't be allowed to write pets into the show -

Vampyre · 20th March 2003, 01:39 PM

I've only watched the first few eps, but didn't Buffy have a dream...?

Highlander II · 20th March 2003, 04:57 PM

Erm - Vamp - what's your spoiler spoling? which season / ep ?

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28th April 2002, 09:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	Now, now RogueFaith, don't take HighlanderII wrong. H2 is a big fan of things making sense, even in fantasy. She likes for the episodes to mesh without apparent error, characters to have realistic motivations for their actions and for all the characters to have a share in developing the stories. Occasionally, we try to remind her that it's just a show, but she seems to think that that is no excuse for being sloppy. Most of us are pretty casual here and treat each other with familiarity. Don't let an off-hand comment make you think that some one is being short or rude. In fact, ASciFi.com is one of the few discussion forums that enforce rules of civility and politeness. Back on topic: Perhaps the fact that Dawn and Glory were "wild cards" in our reality - they weren't a natural part of our world - Buffy was somehow unable to foresee anything about them.

28th April 2002, 09:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
RogueFaith From Beneath You... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 253	Ok sorry dude I'll try to be less reactive..I wish TV shows made a lil more sense sometimes too...it gets a little frustrating when things dont always mesh and you wonder what would happen if they did

28th April 2002, 10:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,369	Damn I'm too late to get involved in that little confrontation there. I think that as Buffy has progressed as a slayer she no longer needs help from the PTB.

28th April 2002, 11:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
RogueFaith From Beneath You... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 253	yea I think youre right Vampyre...Buffy is a much better slayer now then she was before and she no longer needs the PTB

30th April 2002, 05:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,369	I think Buffy has too much on her plate to worry about dreams.

30th April 2002, 10:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	dreams are important -- one should never have so much to worry about that they have no time for dreams - and i'm not talking about 'accomplishments' per se (tho those are important too) - i'm talking about just having dreams - those random ones that most of us have -- a la - Buffy and Angel on the beach - that type of thing -- i mean - does Buffy still dream about Angel? does she think about Riley at all? does she dream about Spike? Xander? Willow? Tara? Dawn? her mother? and they don't have to be prophecy dreams - just dreams --

1st May 2002, 08:23 PM	#23 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,369	Yeah i used to enjoy seeing her dreams.

1st May 2002, 11:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	yeah - me too -- kinda why i started the thread - i wanted to know where they went -- hey, Joss - did you forget?? what's up?? oh well - one more thing that fell through the loophole of a lack of continuity --

5th May 2002, 11:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,369	Joss will bring them back when she needs them.

17th March 2003, 04:55 PM	#26 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	Okay - this is a different 'whatever happened to...' - Where did Miss Kitty Fantastico go?? She was around in S4 - but um - think she ran away or something -- where did she go?

19th March 2003, 01:12 PM	#27 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	aww poor kitty, she did dissapear of the face of the earth!

19th March 2003, 03:49 PM	#28 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	I know - she was in Restless, and I think that's the last time we see her - poor cat. I was working on a fic and Spike asked Tara a question about a dog and I remembered the cat - (the logic really works if you read the story, which you can do when I'm done with it) - anyway - put Miss Kitty Fantastico (sort of) into my story - Just goes to show - some people just shouldn't have pets -- or, some ppl shouldn't be allowed to write pets into the show -

20th March 2003, 01:39 PM	#29 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,369	I've only watched the first few eps, but didn't Buffy have a dream...?

20th March 2003, 04:57 PM	#30 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,456	Erm - Vamp - what's your spoiler spoling? which season / ep ?