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PTeppic · 2nd May 2002, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Tiberius
If they did make a stupid Asgard, he would still base all of his opinions on his Asgard background. Therefore, a stupid Asgard would still be an Asgard.

Not necessarily - given how far advanced the Asgard are, I think we can assume that they can remove the Asgard traits as well.

After all, they were able to remove the Ancient's knowledge from O'Neill, without affecting a single memory of his original brain's contents. That suggests they are capable of such fine levels of manipulation.

Perhaps the problems with the Asgard being de-brained, would be trusting anything he said. After all, it took pretty much a tirade from Carter, a brilliant (dumb) human, spoken to Thor, an Asgard who knew and trusted her, to convince him to take her word. How many Asgard's are going to trust a fellow Asgard that much, after they have de-brained him?

Tiberius · 10th May 2002, 04:46 PM

SPOILER:

DO NOT READ IF YOU DON'T WANT EPISODE 5x22 SPOILED!!! Actually IF YOU DON'T WANT THE LAST HALF OF SEASON 5 SPOILED, DON'T READ THIS!!!

In episode 522, we can see that the Asgard clearly cannot yet manipulate their own genetic codes as well as they should be able to... They should be able to soon with that female Asgard's research (I assume from the smaller body mass and higher voice that she is female). Now that the Replicators are under control, they don't need a "stupid" Asgard.

PTeppic · 10th May 2002, 07:51 PM

[I am still at 5-4, but don't mind spoilers usually anyway, so no worries from me...]

Do we have ANY information about Asgard gender? We are assuming a bi-gender scenario, which lets face it is vastly prolific in nature and the SG1 universe. We can assume Goa'uld have two, but they don't have to use hosts of the same gender. But, we probably don't know about the Asgard, or in fact the Reetou. (Ahem!) Charlie refers to "mother", but that could be a human-like reference for familiarity - they could be hermaphrodite, or asexual etc.

[You would think Mrs Ambassador and I would know...]

shazstar · 12th May 2002, 12:13 PM

hmmmmm, before I go on and say anything, I must say that it is all based on 522 Revelations. So in which case...SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! really big ones.

I can't remember the specific details, BUT in 522, when the asgard scientist is describing her research she talks about the past and the future of the asgard race. I can't remember all the dialogue or details BUT the drop dead revelation here was that for the asgard race, are dying out. Reason? The asgard transfer "conciousness" into new bodies, bodies which are clones of another. So, over a period of time they have lost genetic diversity and, (I am guessing) the ability to reproduce. Which (and this is where the theory is reaching) may have resulted in the asgard engineering a clone without any reproductive ability, perhaps because they had already lost the abilty and therefore didn't want to waste resources? And this is of course over many galactic years.

10th May 2002, 04:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tiberius Fleet Admiral Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 282	SPOILER: DO NOT READ IF YOU DON'T WANT EPISODE 5x22 SPOILED!!! Actually IF YOU DON'T WANT THE LAST HALF OF SEASON 5 SPOILED, DON'T READ THIS!!! In episode 522, we can see that the Asgard clearly cannot yet manipulate their own genetic codes as well as they should be able to... They should be able to soon with that female Asgard's research (I assume from the smaller body mass and higher voice that she is female). Now that the Replicators are under control, they don't need a "stupid" Asgard.

10th May 2002, 07:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,102	[I am still at 5-4, but don't mind spoilers usually anyway, so no worries from me...] Do we have ANY information about Asgard gender? We are assuming a bi-gender scenario, which lets face it is vastly prolific in nature and the SG1 universe. We can assume Goa'uld have two, but they don't have to use hosts of the same gender. But, we probably don't know about the Asgard, or in fact the Reetou. (Ahem!) Charlie refers to "mother", but that could be a human-like reference for familiarity - they could be hermaphrodite, or asexual etc. [You would think Mrs Ambassador and I would know...]

12th May 2002, 12:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
shazstar Flygirl Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,213	hmmmmm, before I go on and say anything, I must say that it is all based on 522 Revelations. So in which case...SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! really big ones. I can't remember the specific details, BUT in 522, when the asgard scientist is describing her research she talks about the past and the future of the asgard race. I can't remember all the dialogue or details BUT the drop dead revelation here was that for the asgard race, are dying out. Reason? The asgard transfer "conciousness" into new bodies, bodies which are clones of another. So, over a period of time they have lost genetic diversity and, (I am guessing) the ability to reproduce. Which (and this is where the theory is reaching) may have resulted in the asgard engineering a clone without any reproductive ability, perhaps because they had already lost the abilty and therefore didn't want to waste resources? And this is of course over many galactic years.