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GirlInterrupted · 2nd April 2002, 10:16 PM

Is there anyone round here who also visits the Sho site
http://www.stargatesg-1.com
who is from outside the United States? Or rather USED to visit? Cos when I tried I got a cheeky message saying said site was for US only - yet I was allowed to register and play the games there for the last 6 months. What is it? Aren't us English good enough anymore???

System Lord Gypsy · 2nd April 2002, 10:19 PM

There is a forum for the showtime site. If you hit the stargate website chat link above you'll find it there. The question has been raised and no. Most of us aren't happy. There are ways around the problem though. If you use http://www.megaproxy.com you should be able to ask around and find the URL for a desent proxy server.

Gypsy

GirlInterrupted · 2nd April 2002, 10:47 PM

Thanks Gypsy.

I can't stand it when people do that with their sites. I thought the idea was WWW - World Wide Web. Idiots!!!

System Lord Gypsy · 2nd April 2002, 10:55 PM

LOL. Unfortunately Showtime appear to be this way with all their sites. I suggest you subscribe to the showtime forum here as I'll be requesting this thread be moved there.

Gypsy

PTeppic · 3rd April 2002, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by GirlInterrupted
I can't stand it when people do that with their sites. I thought the idea was WWW - World Wide Web. Idiots!!!

The problem appears to be the back-room bean-counters and copyright people. For licensing and copyright reasons they are trying to restrict a global communications medium (the internet)(using a VERY technologically dubious method, since there are NO methods of guaranteeing a visitors physical location) in the same way they would restrict the physical merchandising and material. Go figure.

GirlInterrupted · 4th April 2002, 12:50 AM

It reminds me slightly of the deal with MP3s. Recently a lot of musician/band sites have introduced copyright control on the WinMedia format through something called DRM (Digital Rights Management) meaning you have to have a licence for the media you are downloading. Trouble is, anyone with half a brain knows that this can still be turned into a MP3 by using good old fashioned analog - a wire between the line out and a minidisc player or another PC then transfer it back and your rolling. You can even do it internally with some PC's through the system mixer. (Whoever said PC's are dumb is correct!)
Basically the same can be said here...find a suitable proxy and you're in business...where there is a will there is a way...it's struck me for years that the people who run businesses like the music and film industries have jack-s knowledge of the technology they are trying to employ...hapless technoweenies!!!

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PTeppic · 4th April 2002, 06:24 AM

Its perhaps more the conflict between PR & Marketing on one-hand saying "must have a web-site to look cool and appeal to our intended market share" and the other lot saying "can't do anything outside the following area".

a) which is nuts, because we want to know anyway
b) which is nuts, because the technology is incapable
c) which is nuts, because the method used can be bent
d) which is nuts, because it makes the limitation much more visible

If you were to try to buy something from US for some of these shows, should they stop it being exported? Probably, in some cases. Would you even know to try to export? No. If you found the shops in the first place.
You're trying to use the web - how easy will it be to find the "official" site - very. And discover the limitation - very. And so how fast will you find they are plonkers - very.

Wingless Flyer · 18th May 2002, 04:25 AM

I am in the UK and this week I have been able to enter...

Anyone else?

angelle myst · 18th May 2002, 06:34 AM

Isn't there any kind of petition we could get going? Would they listen? There must be thousands of people out there experiencing what we are. Would it be worth trying? :alienooh: It was one of the best sites i have ever visited and i dont want to give up on it quite yet. My computer is dodgy and if i change settings it freaks, so i cant get there at all

xxx Major Sam O'Neill aka Spirit Dreamer

PTeppic · 18th May 2002, 01:19 PM

Petitions PROBABLY wouldn't help, because it will be a problem set by licensing rather than wish for specific fans to see the various material.

Wingless Flyer - as I said previously, the technology to do country based blocking is very dodgy. It will be to do with your ISP. If you are, for example, AOL, then you will have no problem, irrespective of where in the world you are.

General Casper · 29th May 2002, 08:35 AM

I have tried www.megaproxy.com and it gets me in but i cant play any games or take any exams. i have tried other proxy servers but i havent been able to find one that works with my isp.

.I hate showtime. I hope that Ryan is able to move the site to a new server where it's accessable to more then just us residents.

System Lord Gypsy · 12th August 2002, 04:46 PM

I only posted megaproxy.com as a way of getting and helping you find a desent proxy. For anyone outside the US who still can't get on the site try http://www.sg15.co.uk.

I see the Sci-fi channel are starting to do similar things although not as yet with access to their site. There is a competition on their site and the prize is having a character on the show named after you. I suppose again it's all to do with lisencing but in my opinion if you are going to post a competition on a site that is open to the entire world then you should not restrict that competition to one country. Those of us not in the US get the fun of watching only US people entering and can't have a character in a show we loved name for us after winning.

If this isn't discrimination I don't know what is.

Gypsy {Off my high horse now}

General Casper · 13th August 2002, 03:43 AM

I have Cable and proxy servers dont seem to work for Cable users

. and i dont feel like signing up for using free anonymous webbrowsing sites. if it's free why would i need to sign up?

imported_Strontium Dog · 20th August 2002, 04:09 PM

I have cable and can use proxy servers fine. I simply enter the IP address of the proxy in my LAN settings for my web browser and off I go. It can take a while to find one that works though, and some stop working after a while (so have to go looking for a working one again).

General Casper · 21st August 2002, 02:57 AM

I spent a week looking for one and never did fine one so i gave up.

2nd April 2002, 10:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
GirlInterrupted ~Shaneadelic Baby!~ Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 31	Outside US members... Is there anyone round here who also visits the Sho site http://www.stargatesg-1.com who is from outside the United States? Or rather USED to visit? Cos when I tried I got a cheeky message saying said site was for US only - yet I was allowed to register and play the games there for the last 6 months. What is it? Aren't us English good enough anymore???

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2nd April 2002, 10:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
System Lord Gypsy What is an Oprah????? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 425	There is a forum for the showtime site. If you hit the stargate website chat link above you'll find it there. The question has been raised and no. Most of us aren't happy. There are ways around the problem though. If you use http://www.megaproxy.com you should be able to ask around and find the URL for a desent proxy server. Gypsy

2nd April 2002, 10:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
GirlInterrupted ~Shaneadelic Baby!~ Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 31	Thanks Gypsy. I can't stand it when people do that with their sites. I thought the idea was WWW - World Wide Web. Idiots!!!

2nd April 2002, 10:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
System Lord Gypsy What is an Oprah????? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 425	LOL. Unfortunately Showtime appear to be this way with all their sites. I suggest you subscribe to the showtime forum here as I'll be requesting this thread be moved there. Gypsy

4th April 2002, 12:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
GirlInterrupted ~Shaneadelic Baby!~ Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 31	It reminds me slightly of the deal with MP3s. Recently a lot of musician/band sites have introduced copyright control on the WinMedia format through something called DRM (Digital Rights Management) meaning you have to have a licence for the media you are downloading. Trouble is, anyone with half a brain knows that this can still be turned into a MP3 by using good old fashioned analog - a wire between the line out and a minidisc player or another PC then transfer it back and your rolling. You can even do it internally with some PC's through the system mixer. (Whoever said PC's are dumb is correct!) Basically the same can be said here...find a suitable proxy and you're in business...where there is a will there is a way...it's struck me for years that the people who run businesses like the music and film industries have jack-s knowledge of the technology they are trying to employ...hapless technoweenies!!! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/hearts.gif

4th April 2002, 06:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,109	Its perhaps more the conflict between PR & Marketing on one-hand saying "must have a web-site to look cool and appeal to our intended market share" and the other lot saying "can't do anything outside the following area". a) which is nuts, because we want to know anyway b) which is nuts, because the technology is incapable c) which is nuts, because the method used can be bent d) which is nuts, because it makes the limitation much more visible If you were to try to buy something from US for some of these shows, should they stop it being exported? Probably, in some cases. Would you even know to try to export? No. If you found the shops in the first place. You're trying to use the web - how easy will it be to find the "official" site - very. And discover the limitation - very. And so how fast will you find they are plonkers - very.

18th May 2002, 04:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
Wingless Flyer Expert Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 337	I am in the UK and this week I have been able to enter... Anyone else?

18th May 2002, 06:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
angelle myst Ash Join Date: May 2002 Location: Yorkshire, England. Posts: 1,772	Isn't there any kind of petition we could get going? Would they listen? There must be thousands of people out there experiencing what we are. Would it be worth trying? :alienooh: It was one of the best sites i have ever visited and i dont want to give up on it quite yet. My computer is dodgy and if i change settings it freaks, so i cant get there at all xxx Major Sam O'Neill aka Spirit Dreamer

18th May 2002, 01:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,109	Petitions PROBABLY wouldn't help, because it will be a problem set by licensing rather than wish for specific fans to see the various material. Wingless Flyer - as I said previously, the technology to do country based blocking is very dodgy. It will be to do with your ISP. If you are, for example, AOL, then you will have no problem, irrespective of where in the world you are.

29th May 2002, 08:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
General Casper ÅRÅ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 78	I have tried www.megaproxy.com and it gets me in but i cant play any games or take any exams. i have tried other proxy servers but i havent been able to find one that works with my isp. .I hate showtime. I hope that Ryan is able to move the site to a new server where it's accessable to more then just us residents.

12th August 2002, 04:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
System Lord Gypsy What is an Oprah????? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 425	I only posted megaproxy.com as a way of getting and helping you find a desent proxy. For anyone outside the US who still can't get on the site try http://www.sg15.co.uk. I see the Sci-fi channel are starting to do similar things although not as yet with access to their site. There is a competition on their site and the prize is having a character on the show named after you. I suppose again it's all to do with lisencing but in my opinion if you are going to post a competition on a site that is open to the entire world then you should not restrict that competition to one country. Those of us not in the US get the fun of watching only US people entering and can't have a character in a show we loved name for us after winning. If this isn't discrimination I don't know what is. Gypsy {Off my high horse now}

13th August 2002, 03:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
General Casper ÅRÅ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 78	I have Cable and proxy servers dont seem to work for Cable users . and i dont feel like signing up for using free anonymous webbrowsing sites. if it's free why would i need to sign up?

20th August 2002, 04:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
imported_Strontium Dog SKAA™ 2IC Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: UK Posts: 86	I have cable and can use proxy servers fine. I simply enter the IP address of the proxy in my LAN settings for my web browser and off I go. It can take a while to find one that works though, and some stop working after a while (so have to go looking for a working one again).

21st August 2002, 02:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
General Casper ÅRÅ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 78	I spent a week looking for one and never did fine one so i gave up.