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Dave · 27th September 2002, 10:52 AM

The episode was a good conclusion to the 9 years, it cleared up a few things for me, but there were other things I didn't understand. The 'shippy' finale didn't matter to me, but I'm glad it made someones day.

The Super-soldiers
When we first met them, I asked how Doggett didn't realise his marine buddy had been one during Vietnam. It now appears that they aren't the real humans, but 'alien replacements'. That means that there is a body somewhere to be found, or, do they take over the human bodies, like the 'black oil' or 'invasion of the body snatchers'?

Mulder's Visions
Were Krycek, the Lone Gunmen and X, real visions of dead people, like Mulder said he would like to believe in? Or has Mulder just gone a little crazy and is seeing things? He was tortured until the point that he believed he was guilty, that does things to your mind. On the other hand, they did tell him things that were true, that he couldn't otherwise have known.

The Alien Invasion Date
Forgotten the date -- sometime in 2012 (I'll have to put it in my calendar) Apparently it's the last date in the Mayan calendar.

We were lead to believe that Mulder was witholding some great piece of evidence that would clear him. But, all we got was this date. An unsubstantiated date is hardly any proof! Do you think he still has more evidence. He is still a wanted Murderer, so the story still continues, and that gives Chris Carter about 10 years in which to make the next film (or films) -- clever -- he won't end up like other film series (ie. Terminator) when future events have already not happened.

angelle myst · 27th September 2002, 04:36 PM

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The episode was a good conclusion to the 9 years, it cleared up a few things for me, but there were other things I didn't understand. The 'shippy' finale didn't matter to me, but I'm glad it made someones day.

Kinda made my whole damn year

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We were lead to believe that Mulder was witholding some great piece of evidence that would clear him. But, all we got was this date. An unsubstantiated date is hardly any proof! Do you think he still has more evidence.

I was thinking about this too, and that whole scene with CSM in the mountain with Mulder and Scully - and Mulder wont tell her the big truth. I'm finding it hard to believe that whole Truth is just a date (so ok, its a pretty important date), there could be some big thing he discovered and the date just verified it all (and this thing he discovered was the thing Mulder didnt want to tell Scully, and the thing CSM was so sure she'd be afraid to hear?) - I know i'm reaching and its all guesswork and will never be verified, but this is half of the fun of the X-Files lol

I just cant quite get my head round the fact that this date would have cleared Mulder of the murder charge - i dont think anything would have cleared Mulder of the murder charge, CC made that pretty clear throughout the eps.

xxx

Annette · 30th September 2002, 07:22 PM

Well, the x-files has come to an end. :crying:

BUT thank goodness for repeats (LOL)

I was a tad disappointed with the whole Truth thing. I can't believe it all came down to a date in the future.

It was good seeing some of the old characters making an appearance, and yes I do believe that they were obviously all ghostly figures. They gave Mulder the strength to carry on.

annette

angelle myst · 30th September 2002, 10:40 PM

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They gave Mulder the strength to carry on.

Also, they gave him Marita's address

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BUT thank goodness for repeats (LOL)

I wonder which ep will be shown on Friday? On Sky One it said we got to choose, i cant remember what all the choices were but from the ones i remember seeing i hope its How The Ghosts Stole Xmas

a good ol' classic that i know a lot of ppl love

xxx

Dave · 30th September 2002, 10:54 PM

There is a choice of four, 'Redrum' is one of the others. None of them were what I would put in my top five.

little smaug · 25th March 2003, 04:46 PM

I absolutely LOVED this episode! I liked how they wrapped everything up, and also the return of characters, dead and alive.

I'm also sooo happy that there was a happy ending, with Mulder and Scully all in love and everything. At the beginning, when they first met again in the prison, i was mad at Mulder for being so mean. But when he explained it was all an act, and kissed Scully - aaaaawwww, how cute was that? Felt a bit sorry for Skinner tho, he looked kinda embarrassed!

I'm happy that Mulder was back, it hasn't been the x-files since he left. And he was looking really cute in those jeans!

Diamond9697 · 1st April 2003, 02:30 PM

I was unhappy with the "truth" part of the episode. But I too was happy with the return of characters, even in less than corproreal form. It just wouldn't have been an ending without The Gunmen, Krycek, and CSM, who added so much to the show I loved for so long. At least they did give me that much out of a show that while I loved, was at least in my opinion, going downhill. I said it once and I meant it. The X-Files wasn't the same without Mulder and a few other key characters.

ZachWZ · 11th April 2003, 05:37 AM

What the Dat meant was that all the sacrifiece and trials that the agents went through didn't affect the alien agenda at all. The aliens now think nothing well stop them. Mulder hoped by getting the Truth out the international human Community would come together and fight. Well he still has 9 years.

ZachWZ

Kanazaka · 1st February 2005, 04:27 AM

Well, it's been a while since I saw the final episode, but I remember it having a pretty cool feel to it, that it was rather well-written and that the ending offered a powerful mix of hope and dread. So I really liked it, and I was more disappointed by the fact that the show was no more than by the episode itself. But I'd forgotten about the date (2012)--thanks for pointing it out!

lisasg1 · 22nd July 2005, 11:36 AM

It was a good episode, I'm still wondering if they're gonna make the second movie tho, has anyone heard anything?

little smaug · 22nd July 2005, 12:40 PM

In an interview with SFX last month, when asked if he would like to direct an X-Files movie, David Duchovny replied, "I think Chris Carter wants to direct the next one, so I wouldn't be able to."

So that suggests that a new one is in the pipelines, but I don't know if it's been given the go head yet.

lisasg1 · 22nd July 2005, 12:50 PM

It would be pretty cool if they concluded everything, but they sure are taking their time with this movie. If they do make a movie, I'd definitely like to see it:alienooh:

Annette · 24th July 2005, 08:51 PM

It seems soooooo long since I've seen this episode. I must dig out my Season 9 DVD set and watch it again.

There is a thread about the X-Files movie with more 'news'.

annette

urchin · 28th September 2007, 01:42 PM

The Truth was a great finale, lots of closure, lots of old friends.

28th September 2007, 01:42 PM	#44 (permalink)
urchin we who are not as others Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Argyll and Bute Posts: 50	Re: 9.19 / 9.20 : The Truth (parts 1 & 2.) The Truth was a great finale, lots of closure, lots of old friends.

27th September 2002, 10:52 AM	#31 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,443	The episode was a good conclusion to the 9 years, it cleared up a few things for me, but there were other things I didn't understand. The 'shippy' finale didn't matter to me, but I'm glad it made someones day. The Super-soldiers When we first met them, I asked how Doggett didn't realise his marine buddy had been one during Vietnam. It now appears that they aren't the real humans, but 'alien replacements'. That means that there is a body somewhere to be found, or, do they take over the human bodies, like the 'black oil' or 'invasion of the body snatchers'? Mulder's Visions Were Krycek, the Lone Gunmen and X, real visions of dead people, like Mulder said he would like to believe in? Or has Mulder just gone a little crazy and is seeing things? He was tortured until the point that he believed he was guilty, that does things to your mind. On the other hand, they did tell him things that were true, that he couldn't otherwise have known. The Alien Invasion Date Forgotten the date -- sometime in 2012 (I'll have to put it in my calendar) Apparently it's the last date in the Mayan calendar. We were lead to believe that Mulder was witholding some great piece of evidence that would clear him. But, all we got was this date. An unsubstantiated date is hardly any proof! Do you think he still has more evidence. He is still a wanted Murderer, so the story still continues, and that gives Chris Carter about 10 years in which to make the next film (or films) -- clever -- he won't end up like other film series (ie. Terminator) when future events have already not happened.

30th September 2002, 07:22 PM	#33 (permalink)
Annette This is Star - my honey!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: West Midlands Posts: 5,944	Well, the x-files has come to an end. :crying: BUT thank goodness for repeats (LOL) I was a tad disappointed with the whole Truth thing. I can't believe it all came down to a date in the future. It was good seeing some of the old characters making an appearance, and yes I do believe that they were obviously all ghostly figures. They gave Mulder the strength to carry on. annette

30th September 2002, 10:54 PM	#35 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,443	There is a choice of four, 'Redrum' is one of the others. None of them were what I would put in my top five.

25th March 2003, 04:46 PM	#36 (permalink)
little smaug Fire and Brimstone Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,343	I absolutely LOVED this episode! I liked how they wrapped everything up, and also the return of characters, dead and alive. I'm also sooo happy that there was a happy ending, with Mulder and Scully all in love and everything. At the beginning, when they first met again in the prison, i was mad at Mulder for being so mean. But when he explained it was all an act, and kissed Scully - aaaaawwww, how cute was that? Felt a bit sorry for Skinner tho, he looked kinda embarrassed! I'm happy that Mulder was back, it hasn't been the x-files since he left. And he was looking really cute in those jeans!

1st April 2003, 02:30 PM	#37 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	I was unhappy with the "truth" part of the episode. But I too was happy with the return of characters, even in less than corproreal form. It just wouldn't have been an ending without The Gunmen, Krycek, and CSM, who added so much to the show I loved for so long. At least they did give me that much out of a show that while I loved, was at least in my opinion, going downhill. I said it once and I meant it. The X-Files wasn't the same without Mulder and a few other key characters.

11th April 2003, 05:37 AM	#38 (permalink)
ZachWZ Pre 1986 Comics Fan Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ottawa county MI USA Posts: 592	What the Dat meant was that all the sacrifiece and trials that the agents went through didn't affect the alien agenda at all. The aliens now think nothing well stop them. Mulder hoped by getting the Truth out the international human Community would come together and fight. Well he still has 9 years. ZachWZ

1st February 2005, 04:27 AM	#39 (permalink)
Kanazaka Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Worth, IL Posts: 104	Well, it's been a while since I saw the final episode, but I remember it having a pretty cool feel to it, that it was rather well-written and that the ending offered a powerful mix of hope and dread. So I really liked it, and I was more disappointed by the fact that the show was no more than by the episode itself. But I'd forgotten about the date (2012)--thanks for pointing it out!

22nd July 2005, 11:36 AM	#40 (permalink)
lisasg1 Huge fan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,183	It was a good episode, I'm still wondering if they're gonna make the second movie tho, has anyone heard anything?

22nd July 2005, 12:40 PM	#41 (permalink)
little smaug Fire and Brimstone Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,343	In an interview with SFX last month, when asked if he would like to direct an X-Files movie, David Duchovny replied, "I think Chris Carter wants to direct the next one, so I wouldn't be able to." So that suggests that a new one is in the pipelines, but I don't know if it's been given the go head yet.

22nd July 2005, 12:50 PM	#42 (permalink)
lisasg1 Huge fan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,183	It would be pretty cool if they concluded everything, but they sure are taking their time with this movie. If they do make a movie, I'd definitely like to see it:alienooh:

24th July 2005, 08:51 PM	#43 (permalink)
Annette This is Star - my honey!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: West Midlands Posts: 5,944	It seems soooooo long since I've seen this episode. I must dig out my Season 9 DVD set and watch it again. There is a thread about the X-Files movie with more 'news'. annette