Why is Ausgate No longer An Aussie Site???? - Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums

sumoner · 12th February 2002, 03:54 PM

As an Aussie I appreciate all the new sites that we create.
But I have to wonder ,when I have to wait for other time zones ,when I know that the site was created by an Aussie..
Why do I seem to always have to wait for an Americans opinion.
It pisses me off.....If Ausgate really is Austalian Gate. Why are we on American Time?

Gatecon · 12th February 2002, 10:27 PM

The time issue is easy. The site is hosted on a server in the USA. There's not much I can do about this.

PTeppic · 12th February 2002, 10:46 PM

Question, probably for GeekMan, rather than GateCon/AusGate. Can the server not run in GMT, even if "physically" in CST?

[And this of course has nothing (much) to do with the Embassy being located in GMT

]

Jedispara · 13th February 2002, 03:52 AM

well i don't even worry about the time, i mean if your in England than you are usually on with people from England... and teh same goes for Australia. i mean i'm in Canada, but i am constantly talk to people in different time zones.. i mean what difference does it make? you are on when you are, whether it be 8 there, or 8 here or 8 in england (all pm btw) so does it really matter all that much?

Skakim · 13th February 2002, 04:42 AM

I'm quite offended by what appears to be a xenophobic attitude in Sumoner's post...knowing what a hard time Allan and Geekman have had with the site and keeping it up and functional AND the fact that Geekman had the wherewithall to be able to host Ausgate in order to keep it from being shut down indefinitely...

SO WHAT if Geekman and the servers are here in America and that an American had the ability to host the site and that the servers are on American time...

SO WHAT if it's gone international...attribute it to Allan's genius and ability AND to the popularity of the show...after all, the show has American and Canadian actors in it and is filmed in Canada (as if it mattered--it's a good show)...

ENOUGH with the xenophobia...it serves no useful purpose other than to "piss" otherwise peaceful people off...:angry:

RaTY · 16th February 2002, 05:25 PM

hmmm...
This bench is warm enough now I think...

Firstly I'll introduce myself. My name is RaTY, Im Australian, and I started visiting stargate-command on a regular basis in the weeks leading up to its closure and subsequent relocation last year. However, during the wait for it to come back online, I got sidetracked and forgot all about the site.
A few days ago, I let one of the tech guys at work use my comp as a practice tool. He ended up handing over a list of all the websites I had visited over the past 18months (yeh it was a big list). I scrolled down and saw stargate-command.com
Been back at it since yesterday :rolly2:

Now, I can easily see where sumoner is coming from in his post.
The site is called AUSGATE, and was designed by an Australian (Im presuming).
I don't see anything wrong with questioning American "Time-Rule" over a site that has a different country in its name. In fact, I would expect it from any Australian.
Why was it automaticly assumed that xenophobia was the motivation behind such a question?
Personal insecurities? Who knows.

In any case. The site has a derivivitive of Australia in its name, is hosted in the United States, and has an Australian creator. The time it runs on is a trivial matter at best, and is up to the powers-that-be to decide on.

My personal opinion?
I think it should be on GMT.

Jedispara · 16th February 2002, 05:34 PM

well put there RaTY. personally i don't care what time it is on, i never pay any attention as to what the time is on teh site, i work within my time zone.

Morrigan · 17th February 2002, 04:30 AM

<shuts mouth to prevent speech against America-bashing> It is on US time since Geekman, an AMERICAN, has the site running off an American server. Allan still owns the site, runs it, and maintains it. The only change is that the site is running out of a few boxes here on American soil.

And that post wasn't xenophobic. Nope, it was more along the lines of "Capitalist Pigs" and "Once again, the US asserts its stranglehold on a foreign nation and its resorces." Yep, that's what we did. We sent our covert ops to Australia, broke into Allan's house, and stole his site. But we left him an admin password, and said "This site is yours, we just want to make sure it runs, so we are going to put it on a new server." USA = Uncaring Socialist A**holes

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to buy a Gameshark/Memory Card for my Playstation 2, and crush the economic system of Peru.

Morrigan

RaTY · 17th February 2002, 05:15 AM

So many choice phrases come to mind reading that post.
I just dont have the courage to say them in a politicaly correct world.

I am a patrotic Australian.
I am an army reservist who has done peacekeeping duties in East Timor.

Pardon my venting. I've just been told someone I know has been killed in Afghanistan.

Jedispara · 17th February 2002, 06:08 PM

were sorry to hear that RaTY. oh Morrigan, well put there!

PTeppic · 17th February 2002, 09:24 PM

Oh, and just to clarify, my question about time-zones was on the following basis, and had nothing to do with actual countries:

a) a purely technical "can't the server be run on ANY time-zone" question - and I don't know the answer, this was not rhetorical

b) most people know where their home-time is relative to GMT, but CST may be more obscure to some

c) it was only a question

d) I do actually have a preference for where the AusGate server is located - not in my dining room

[I think Mrs Ambassador would object to having to dust it!]

IoLoSG5 · 18th February 2002, 01:57 AM

In this alternate reality aren't we all in a different time zone?:rolly2:

What time zone is the service record? It sure is different from here in the states.

I would say that when we are up we are up and we are not we are not. Or as in a question.... Where is here? Is it everywhere you are???

JCSL CH · 18th February 2002, 03:05 AM

Hello again...well as far as the time difference goes, as per Sumoner's post, I am in the USA and the time is off for me...I am on the east coast which is EST and the server is on CST so I too, am constantly confused...but I do not reallly care...I have made many friends "down under" and the time factor is something we discuss regularly! As long as I have AusGate..I can live the time issue.

I am just grateful to have such a wonderful site on which I have been so fortunate in making some really terrific new friends!

Thanks again to all those involved!

Helen

Morrigan · 19th February 2002, 08:47 AM

What I want to know is "Why does it matter?" I don't train in accordance to any time frame. I train WHEN I can, which isn't often

Up until now, I was under the impression that Ausgate was on PST (Pacific Standard), not my OWN time zone (I am CST). Still, I don't see the problem. It is only a couple of numbers.

{ACA} Spellcaster · 19th February 2002, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jedispara
well i don't even worry about the time, i mean if your in England than you are usually on with people from England... and teh same goes for Australia. i mean i'm in Canada, but i am constantly talk to people in different time zones.. i mean what difference does it make? you are on when you are, whether it be 8 there, or 8 here or 8 in england (all pm btw) so does it really matter all that much?

um actually because of the unusual hours i tend to keep i seem to find myself online more often the the us and uk rather than the aussie content

but that's just me

Willz
:blpaw::blpaw:

12th February 2002, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
sumoner Insanity's Guide Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 272	Why is Ausgate No longer An Aussie Site???? As an Aussie I appreciate all the new sites that we create. But I have to wonder ,when I have to wait for other time zones ,when I know that the site was created by an Aussie.. Why do I seem to always have to wait for an Americans opinion. It pisses me off.....If Ausgate really is Austalian Gate. Why are we on American Time?

18th February 2002, 03:05 AM	#13 (permalink)
JCSL CH RAA...RAA...RAA...RAA...! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Georgia Posts: 176	The time thing Hello again...well as far as the time difference goes, as per Sumoner's post, I am in the USA and the time is off for me...I am on the east coast which is EST and the server is on CST so I too, am constantly confused...but I do not reallly care...I have made many friends "down under" and the time factor is something we discuss regularly! As long as I have AusGate..I can live the time issue. I am just grateful to have such a wonderful site on which I have been so fortunate in making some really terrific new friends! Thanks again to all those involved! Helen

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12th February 2002, 10:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gatecon www.gatecon.com Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 1,104	The time issue is easy. The site is hosted on a server in the USA. There's not much I can do about this.

12th February 2002, 10:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,109	Question, probably for GeekMan, rather than GateCon/AusGate. Can the server not run in GMT, even if "physically" in CST? [And this of course has nothing (much) to do with the Embassy being located in GMT ]

13th February 2002, 03:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jedispara {IPPH} Trade CO Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,890	well i don't even worry about the time, i mean if your in England than you are usually on with people from England... and teh same goes for Australia. i mean i'm in Canada, but i am constantly talk to people in different time zones.. i mean what difference does it make? you are on when you are, whether it be 8 there, or 8 here or 8 in england (all pm btw) so does it really matter all that much?

13th February 2002, 04:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
Skakim {AWSC} 3rd in Command Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lanham, MD USA (suburb of Washington DC) Posts: 29	I'm quite offended by what appears to be a xenophobic attitude in Sumoner's post...knowing what a hard time Allan and Geekman have had with the site and keeping it up and functional AND the fact that Geekman had the wherewithall to be able to host Ausgate in order to keep it from being shut down indefinitely... SO WHAT if Geekman and the servers are here in America and that an American had the ability to host the site and that the servers are on American time... SO WHAT if it's gone international...attribute it to Allan's genius and ability AND to the popularity of the show...after all, the show has American and Canadian actors in it and is filmed in Canada (as if it mattered--it's a good show)... ENOUGH with the xenophobia...it serves no useful purpose other than to "piss" otherwise peaceful people off...:angry:

16th February 2002, 05:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
RaTY Tok'Tau'ri High Commander Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 155	hmmm... This bench is warm enough now I think... Firstly I'll introduce myself. My name is RaTY, Im Australian, and I started visiting stargate-command on a regular basis in the weeks leading up to its closure and subsequent relocation last year. However, during the wait for it to come back online, I got sidetracked and forgot all about the site. A few days ago, I let one of the tech guys at work use my comp as a practice tool. He ended up handing over a list of all the websites I had visited over the past 18months (yeh it was a big list). I scrolled down and saw stargate-command.com Been back at it since yesterday :rolly2: Now, I can easily see where sumoner is coming from in his post. The site is called AUSGATE, and was designed by an Australian (Im presuming). I don't see anything wrong with questioning American "Time-Rule" over a site that has a different country in its name. In fact, I would expect it from any Australian. Why was it automaticly assumed that xenophobia was the motivation behind such a question? Personal insecurities? Who knows. In any case. The site has a derivivitive of Australia in its name, is hosted in the United States, and has an Australian creator. The time it runs on is a trivial matter at best, and is up to the powers-that-be to decide on. My personal opinion? I think it should be on GMT.

16th February 2002, 05:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jedispara {IPPH} Trade CO Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,890	well put there RaTY. personally i don't care what time it is on, i never pay any attention as to what the time is on teh site, i work within my time zone.

17th February 2002, 04:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Morrigan My Final Fantasy Join Date: May 2001 Location: Where ever I can find dead seksie bishounen Posts: 1,773	<shuts mouth to prevent speech against America-bashing> It is on US time since Geekman, an AMERICAN, has the site running off an American server. Allan still owns the site, runs it, and maintains it. The only change is that the site is running out of a few boxes here on American soil. And that post wasn't xenophobic. Nope, it was more along the lines of "Capitalist Pigs" and "Once again, the US asserts its stranglehold on a foreign nation and its resorces." Yep, that's what we did. We sent our covert ops to Australia, broke into Allan's house, and stole his site. But we left him an admin password, and said "This site is yours, we just want to make sure it runs, so we are going to put it on a new server." USA = Uncaring Socialist A**holes Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to buy a Gameshark/Memory Card for my Playstation 2, and crush the economic system of Peru. Morrigan

17th February 2002, 05:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
RaTY Tok'Tau'ri High Commander Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 155	So many choice phrases come to mind reading that post. I just dont have the courage to say them in a politicaly correct world. I am a patrotic Australian. I am an army reservist who has done peacekeeping duties in East Timor. Pardon my venting. I've just been told someone I know has been killed in Afghanistan.

17th February 2002, 06:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jedispara {IPPH} Trade CO Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,890	were sorry to hear that RaTY. oh Morrigan, well put there!

17th February 2002, 09:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,109	Oh, and just to clarify, my question about time-zones was on the following basis, and had nothing to do with actual countries: a) a purely technical "can't the server be run on ANY time-zone" question - and I don't know the answer, this was not rhetorical b) most people know where their home-time is relative to GMT, but CST may be more obscure to some c) it was only a question d) I do actually have a preference for where the AusGate server is located - not in my dining room [I think Mrs Ambassador would object to having to dust it!]

18th February 2002, 01:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
IoLoSG5 Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 59	In this alternate reality aren't we all in a different time zone?:rolly2: What time zone is the service record? It sure is different from here in the states. I would say that when we are up we are up and we are not we are not. Or as in a question.... Where is here? Is it everywhere you are???

19th February 2002, 08:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
Morrigan My Final Fantasy Join Date: May 2001 Location: Where ever I can find dead seksie bishounen Posts: 1,773	What I want to know is "Why does it matter?" I don't train in accordance to any time frame. I train WHEN I can, which isn't often Up until now, I was under the impression that Ausgate was on PST (Pacific Standard), not my OWN time zone (I am CST). Still, I don't see the problem. It is only a couple of numbers.