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obcooke · 3rd January 2002, 10:02 PM

Sweet, innocent Dawn - isn't. She sets out on Halloween to find forbidden adventures and may even go.... well, all the way.

markpud · 25th January 2002, 12:03 AM

ashamed to say I didn't guess the guys were vamps til they chowed down on the old dear...

pamie · 8th February 2002, 11:09 PM

Yeah liked this one....didn't really think about the guys being vamps either.

Glad to see that Xander had told the gang that he is getting married.
Also good to see Tara standing up to Willow about her magic...bad Willow at the end doing the forgeting spell....

Like the fact that Giles is still in it for the moment...

Overall good one as usual!

Highlander II · 20th February 2002, 03:25 AM

yeah - this one was pretty good -- but again - very Spike-light - which is truly annoying in more ways than one --

but - focus on Dawn is good -- and i didn't really catch on that they were vamps either -- which is pretty sad considering the promo from last week about the 'vamp crowd' - duh! i need to be more alert!

anyway --- more Spike -

Highlander II · 20th February 2002, 01:57 PM

one other thing that i picked up on in this episode -

the whole 'but that was different' when Buffy and Dawn are arguing about Dawn being out w/ vamps -- and Dawn says 'it's always different when it's you!' -

oh - how true! everything's okay when Buffy does it, but when it's anyone else --- it's a 'big bad' --

why?? can someone explain that??

MythingLink · 20th February 2002, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Highlander II
one other thing that i picked up on in this episode -

the whole 'but that was different' when Buffy and Dawn are arguing about Dawn being out w/ vamps -- and Dawn says 'it's always different when it's you!' -

oh - how true! everything's okay when Buffy does it, but when it's anyone else --- it's a 'big bad' --

why?? can someone explain that??

Self centered?

Cheers,

Highlander II · 20th February 2002, 05:28 PM

yeah - that's a start --

and she's said it to just about every one of the Scoobies - there's always some reason why w/ Buffy it's 'different' -- she even told Spike that the bit w/ Angel was different ---

and her claim that just b/c Spike doesn't have a soul, that he can't know love or isn't able to love -- total garbage -- where is it written that ya have to have one to love?? i don't recall seeing that anywhere - you don't love w/ your soul - you love w/ your brain -- and yeah - so Spike's is technically an 'undead' brain - he can talk and walk and such - so it still works -----

(yeah yeah - i'm in argumentative mode again - mix that w/ snarky - and i'm dangerous

)

little smaug · 25th June 2002, 05:00 PM

Pretty good episode overall, even if it did focus too much on Dawn (I hate Dawn!).

I'm really starting to hate Willow. She used to be such a nice person. But now, putting a spell on the person she's supposed to be in love with? That's kinda twisted.

I'm also getting fed up with Buffy. Okay, the whole getting-ripped-out-of-heaven thing was bad, but she's not the only person in the world with problems!

But can I say, way to go Giles!!! It's great to see him being the hero for once (and not getting knocked out). I love it when he gets all violent, he should lose it more often!

One other thought - has Justin been on the show before? I recognise him, but I'm not sure where from.

Highlander II · 26th June 2002, 12:47 AM

Okay - I just gotta ask, b/c this really bugs me -

Why does everyone hate Dawn?

And I want real answers - not just 'b/c she's whiny' -- there's gotta be something else.

Mostly I ask b/c, for me anyway, it takes a whole LOT to make me truly HATE a character. (Hate is such a strong word) There's only one character in all of tv (that I've seen) that I actually 'hate' - (not mentioning a name) - and it took a great deal for that character to bother me - there is nothing to like about the particular character that I hate.

However, I don't hate Dawn. I didn't like her much at first, but then I watched more closely. Now, she is a bit whiny - and that needs to go - but she has some good qualities and if the writers ever give her a decent storyline - they could really do something with her.

obcooke · 26th June 2002, 05:52 AM

Dawn's okay in my book. Not my favorite, but I like her potential more than anything they've done with her so far. I said way back before Season Six, (I swear I did, I can track the post if I have to.) that I would be real disappointed if Dawn just became someone for Buffy to save all the time.

I hope they decide to do more scripts that use her well.

[little smaug: I'm really starting to hate Willow.]

Yeah, she really made me wonder, during Flooded, when she threatened Giles!

WILLOW: I'm very powerful. And maybe it's not such a good idea for you to **** me off.

And then tonight (re-runs) she spoke so viciously to Tara:

TARA: Willow, you are using too much magic. What do you want me to do, just, just sit back and keep my mouth shut?

WILLOW: Well, that'd be a good start.

Guess we'll have to wait and see if it's supposed to be confidence or arrogance.

Highlander II · 16th July 2002, 04:01 AM

Ya know - I was watching this the last time it aired, and I was wondering about something.

Dawn mentions having seen the guys she and Janice are with at parties before - so, are we to assume that she and Janice have been sneaking out on a regular basis? And how long had the two guys been vampires? They seemed to know enough about being vampires that they could have been several months 'old' - but dunno - was just kinda weird -

And, I know we weren't supposed to 'really' know they were vamps until that one went in the kitchen and killed the old man, but still - they just seemed odd ---

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obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	Episode 6.06 All the Way Sweet, innocent Dawn - isn't. She sets out on Halloween to find forbidden adventures and may even go.... well, all the way.

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25th January 2002, 12:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
markpud Retired super-mod-erator! Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 4,524	ashamed to say I didn't guess the guys were vamps til they chowed down on the old dear...

8th February 2002, 11:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
pamie Space Monkey! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: South coast of the UK Posts: 3,043	Yeah liked this one....didn't really think about the guys being vamps either. Glad to see that Xander had told the gang that he is getting married. Also good to see Tara standing up to Willow about her magic...bad Willow at the end doing the forgeting spell.... Like the fact that Giles is still in it for the moment... Overall good one as usual!

20th February 2002, 03:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 9,616	yeah - this one was pretty good -- but again - very Spike-light - which is truly annoying in more ways than one -- but - focus on Dawn is good -- and i didn't really catch on that they were vamps either -- which is pretty sad considering the promo from last week about the 'vamp crowd' - duh! i need to be more alert! anyway --- more Spike -

20th February 2002, 01:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 9,616	one other thing that i picked up on in this episode - the whole 'but that was different' when Buffy and Dawn are arguing about Dawn being out w/ vamps -- and Dawn says 'it's always different when it's you!' - oh - how true! everything's okay when Buffy does it, but when it's anyone else --- it's a 'big bad' -- why?? can someone explain that??

20th February 2002, 05:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 9,616	yeah - that's a start -- and she's said it to just about every one of the Scoobies - there's always some reason why w/ Buffy it's 'different' -- she even told Spike that the bit w/ Angel was different --- and her claim that just b/c Spike doesn't have a soul, that he can't know love or isn't able to love -- total garbage -- where is it written that ya have to have one to love?? i don't recall seeing that anywhere - you don't love w/ your soul - you love w/ your brain -- and yeah - so Spike's is technically an 'undead' brain - he can talk and walk and such - so it still works ----- (yeah yeah - i'm in argumentative mode again - mix that w/ snarky - and i'm dangerous )

25th June 2002, 05:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
little smaug Fire and Brimstone Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,339	Pretty good episode overall, even if it did focus too much on Dawn (I hate Dawn!). I'm really starting to hate Willow. She used to be such a nice person. But now, putting a spell on the person she's supposed to be in love with? That's kinda twisted. I'm also getting fed up with Buffy. Okay, the whole getting-ripped-out-of-heaven thing was bad, but she's not the only person in the world with problems! But can I say, way to go Giles!!! It's great to see him being the hero for once (and not getting knocked out). I love it when he gets all violent, he should lose it more often! One other thought - has Justin been on the show before? I recognise him, but I'm not sure where from.

26th June 2002, 12:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 9,616	Okay - I just gotta ask, b/c this really bugs me - Why does everyone hate Dawn? And I want real answers - not just 'b/c she's whiny' -- there's gotta be something else. Mostly I ask b/c, for me anyway, it takes a whole LOT to make me truly HATE a character. (Hate is such a strong word) There's only one character in all of tv (that I've seen) that I actually 'hate' - (not mentioning a name) - and it took a great deal for that character to bother me - there is nothing to like about the particular character that I hate. However, I don't hate Dawn. I didn't like her much at first, but then I watched more closely. Now, she is a bit whiny - and that needs to go - but she has some good qualities and if the writers ever give her a decent storyline - they could really do something with her.

26th June 2002, 05:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	Dawn's okay in my book. Not my favorite, but I like her potential more than anything they've done with her so far. I said way back before Season Six, (I swear I did, I can track the post if I have to.) that I would be real disappointed if Dawn just became someone for Buffy to save all the time. I hope they decide to do more scripts that use her well. [little smaug: I'm really starting to hate Willow.] Yeah, she really made me wonder, during Flooded, when she threatened Giles! WILLOW: I'm very powerful. And maybe it's not such a good idea for you to *** me off.* And then tonight (re-runs) she spoke so viciously to Tara: TARA: Willow, you are using too much magic. What do you want me to do, just, just sit back and keep my mouth shut? WILLOW: Well, that'd be a good start. Guess we'll have to wait and see if it's supposed to be confidence or arrogance.

16th July 2002, 04:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 9,616	Ya know - I was watching this the last time it aired, and I was wondering about something. Dawn mentions having seen the guys she and Janice are with at parties before - so, are we to assume that she and Janice have been sneaking out on a regular basis? And how long had the two guys been vampires? They seemed to know enough about being vampires that they could have been several months 'old' - but dunno - was just kinda weird - And, I know we weren't supposed to 'really' know they were vamps until that one went in the kitchen and killed the old man, but still - they just seemed odd ---