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obcooke · 3rd January 2002, 09:43 PM

Never trust a witch who has trouble controlling her impulses.

Annette · 8th March 2002, 05:06 PM

Amy is back for all of five mins and introduces Willow to darker magic with the aid of Rack. Wasn't he the guy from the Bacardi adverts?

Loved Buffys line when she wakes up and asks 'when did the building fall down?' It was a classic.

annette

pamie · 8th March 2002, 10:57 PM

Was not too keen on this one...I still feel that there is something missing in the shape of Giles

I really don't think that Willow is going to change that easily.

Did like the Spike and Buffy stuff...but think it could get a tad boring if it goes on too long!

obcooke · 9th March 2002, 12:39 AM

[pamie: I really don't think that Willow is going to change that easily.]

Yeah, this episode was widely panned by many of the faithful. For once, Joss & Co. seem to have produced a rather weak, thinly-disguised, derivative story. It was a hack job of a "druggie" story, including a predictable descent into madness, right out of a '50's scare-the-kids-straight film.

Everyone knows that "Teleportation" is a gateway spell to harder magic and the first step on the road to Hell, right?

Oh, it was sad. Perhaps they just tried to do too much in one episode. They didn't take the time to make Willow's fall more subtle and believable.

[Did like the Spike and Buffy stuff...but think it could get a tad boring if it goes on too long!]

I still haven't made up my mind about this, maybe by the end of the season I'll figure out if I'm okay with it.

pamie · 10th March 2002, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by obcooke

I still haven't made up my mind about this, maybe by the end of the season I'll figure out if I'm okay with it.

Yeah like you..Im not too sure on it all.
Its kinda the whole been there done that...and Spike being a good guy!!!!
I don't like it so much, its seems to me that he has just taken over from Angel..hes the one that Buffy always goes to when she is in trouble or when Dawn has gone missing!

Highlander II · 8th April 2002, 03:21 PM

just saw this one -- and <gah> is about all i can say --

the Spike/Buffy follow-up was good - (the stuff at the beginning) - and their convo while looking for Rack's was pretty interesting (did Marti Noxon have help writing that? b/c she doesn't do so well writing Spike stuff) --

but - the Willow thing? 2 words - Lame-Much? (to snag a 'Sunny-phrase')

Marti Noxon needs to learn the value of metaphor - which is what, i believe, Willow's *addiction* was supposed to be - not a flat out - *smack the audience in the face or they won't get it* addiction -

i think that 99.9999% of the fans would have understood if there had been a more subtle approach to it all --

Generally, i watch the episodes 2x's - this one wasn't worth it, except to fast-forward through to the stuff w/ Spike and Buffy - b/c at least THAT was interesting -- "...I might bite you."

although, i think that Rack's place was only 'magically' hidden so that Buffy would need Spike to help her find it - which she ended up not needed Spike for anyway b/c Willow and Dawn weren't there anymore --

but honestly - this looked like a bad DARE (kiddie drug program in the US) video to me ---

Highlander II · 8th April 2002, 03:32 PM

one other thing ---

i loved Anya's reference to Martha Stewart being a witch!! that was TOO funny! (have to say i agree too - can't stand Martha Stewart! grrrr)

point to Anya!

Annette · 8th April 2002, 07:34 PM

Who is Martha Stewart???????

annette

Highlander II · 8th April 2002, 07:47 PM

you don't know? then thank your lucky stars -

i dunno who she would equate to in the UK - (or anywhere else for that matter) -

but she's this designer/decorator person and she apparently lives on the most abundantly productive stretch of land in the universe - b/c she access to all kinds of things - and she grabs twigs and sticks and berries and leaves and makes stuff to decorate your home with - centerpieces and chandeliers and whatnot - she's annoying as anything -- acts like all her projects are these little 2-minute things that anyone can do b/c we all live on this same piece of abundantly productive land --

she made a gingerbread house once and acted like it was the simplest thing in the world - like you could just wave a wand and say a magic word and <poof> instand gingerbread house -

i'm sure she has a website - think it's www.marthastewart.com -

oh - and she's got her own line of home interiors items - like bed sheets and bath towels - in these obnoxious pastel colors and she smirks like she's God's gift to interior design --

can ya tell i like her a lot? <big snarky sarcastic grin inserted here>

Annette · 9th April 2002, 12:43 PM

Sounds as tho Anya was right then going by that description. Thanks H2.

annette

Highlander II · 9th April 2002, 02:37 PM

yeah - she was -

Martha Stewart is a witch --

all those 'working mom' types, and even some 'stay at home moms' and 'homemakers' think so -- why? b/c they don't have the abundant yard to grab all that stuff - so eh - they just do something else -

however --- still thought this episode was rather bland and way to 'in your face' w/ the addiction thing --- don't like that --

Kanazaka · 3rd August 2005, 12:29 AM

Wow, I must have been one of the only ones not to mind the drug analogy, then

. I also liked the foreshadowing of Dark/Evil Willow in this episode, when Willow kills the demon and her eyes are jet black

. Unlike most here, though, I wasn't too keen on the Spike/Buffy relationship here or elsewhere.

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8th March 2002, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Annette This is Star - my honey!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: West Midlands Posts: 5,944	Amy is back for all of five mins and introduces Willow to darker magic with the aid of Rack. Wasn't he the guy from the Bacardi adverts? Loved Buffys line when she wakes up and asks 'when did the building fall down?' It was a classic. annette

8th March 2002, 10:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
pamie Space Monkey! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: South coast of the UK Posts: 3,091	Was not too keen on this one...I still feel that there is something missing in the shape of Giles I really don't think that Willow is going to change that easily. Did like the Spike and Buffy stuff...but think it could get a tad boring if it goes on too long!

9th March 2002, 12:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	[pamie: I really don't think that Willow is going to change that easily.] Yeah, this episode was widely panned by many of the faithful. For once, Joss & Co. seem to have produced a rather weak, thinly-disguised, derivative story. It was a hack job of a "druggie" story, including a predictable descent into madness, right out of a '50's scare-the-kids-straight film. Everyone knows that "Teleportation" is a gateway spell to harder magic and the first step on the road to Hell, right? Oh, it was sad. Perhaps they just tried to do too much in one episode. They didn't take the time to make Willow's fall more subtle and believable. [Did like the Spike and Buffy stuff...but think it could get a tad boring if it goes on too long!] I still haven't made up my mind about this, maybe by the end of the season I'll figure out if I'm okay with it.

8th April 2002, 03:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,499	just saw this one -- and <gah> is about all i can say -- the Spike/Buffy follow-up was good - (the stuff at the beginning) - and their convo while looking for Rack's was pretty interesting (did Marti Noxon have help writing that? b/c she doesn't do so well writing Spike stuff) -- but - the Willow thing? 2 words - Lame-Much? (to snag a 'Sunny-phrase') Marti Noxon needs to learn the value of metaphor - which is what, i believe, Willow's addiction was supposed to be - not a flat out - smack the audience in the face or they won't get it addiction - i think that 99.9999% of the fans would have understood if there had been a more subtle approach to it all -- Generally, i watch the episodes 2x's - this one wasn't worth it, except to fast-forward through to the stuff w/ Spike and Buffy - b/c at least THAT was interesting -- "...I might bite you." although, i think that Rack's place was only 'magically' hidden so that Buffy would need Spike to help her find it - which she ended up not needed Spike for anyway b/c Willow and Dawn weren't there anymore -- but honestly - this looked like a bad DARE (kiddie drug program in the US) video to me ---

8th April 2002, 03:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,499	one other thing --- i loved Anya's reference to Martha Stewart being a witch!! that was TOO funny! (have to say i agree too - can't stand Martha Stewart! grrrr) point to Anya!

8th April 2002, 07:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
Annette This is Star - my honey!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: West Midlands Posts: 5,944	Who is Martha Stewart??????? annette

8th April 2002, 07:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,499	you don't know? then thank your lucky stars - i dunno who she would equate to in the UK - (or anywhere else for that matter) - but she's this designer/decorator person and she apparently lives on the most abundantly productive stretch of land in the universe - b/c she access to all kinds of things - and she grabs twigs and sticks and berries and leaves and makes stuff to decorate your home with - centerpieces and chandeliers and whatnot - she's annoying as anything -- acts like all her projects are these little 2-minute things that anyone can do b/c we all live on this same piece of abundantly productive land -- she made a gingerbread house once and acted like it was the simplest thing in the world - like you could just wave a wand and say a magic word and <poof> instand gingerbread house - i'm sure she has a website - think it's www.marthastewart.com - oh - and she's got her own line of home interiors items - like bed sheets and bath towels - in these obnoxious pastel colors and she smirks like she's God's gift to interior design -- can ya tell i like her a lot? <big snarky sarcastic grin inserted here>

9th April 2002, 12:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Annette This is Star - my honey!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: West Midlands Posts: 5,944	Sounds as tho Anya was right then going by that description. Thanks H2. annette

9th April 2002, 02:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,499	yeah - she was - Martha Stewart is a witch -- all those 'working mom' types, and even some 'stay at home moms' and 'homemakers' think so -- why? b/c they don't have the abundant yard to grab all that stuff - so eh - they just do something else - however --- still thought this episode was rather bland and way to 'in your face' w/ the addiction thing --- don't like that --

3rd August 2005, 12:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kanazaka Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Worth, IL Posts: 104	Wow, I must have been one of the only ones not to mind the drug analogy, then . I also liked the foreshadowing of Dark/Evil Willow in this episode, when Willow kills the demon and her eyes are jet black . Unlike most here, though, I wasn't too keen on the Spike/Buffy relationship here or elsewhere.