Nemesis theory - Planet X

[mac1]

Does anyone here understand this??

Could you please explain it to me if so??

http://pub39.ezboard.com/fhuntforpla...picID=41.topic

Is it just utter randomness, thats what it looks like, or does he think hes found Nibiru?

[brian]

If you mean "are those list of figures reliable" the simple answer has to be no. I just cannot see how anyone can test the veracity of a possible unknown planet existing in an unknown orbit by assuming that the orbit, mass, and angular momentum are all precisely known! It looks like a major contradiction - churning out random numbers and then arguing about them. :-

Btw - those links do look interesting, tho; - but I'd put my pennies on a general Kuiper Belt object - assuming there's a single point cause:

Spacecrafts pulled by mystery force

Old spacecraft makes surprise discovery

Of course, there could be another theory applicable here - but I'll leave it at that for the moment.


EDIT - The story at MSN mentions something of the history - though you got to click through "all story" link for it.

[mac1]

How far out does the Kuiper Belt stretch too??

Am I right in saying that Pluto is either the far side of it, or in the middle of it? I'm sure I picked that up from a documentary somewhere, I may be wrong.

As for that link, I drew exactly the same conclusion. The guy seems to have just randomly picked some figures out of the air and started appling them to equations. Its actually really quite funny when you think about it. He has basically made up ridiculously accurate dimensions and orbital information, for a planet nobody can even prove the existance of, and spent hours, and possibly days doing advanced calculations with them. He must be mad. ;D

Also, I haven't seen any figures for the decelleration of those spacecraft, or for their current locations, but is it infact possible that the craft have simply left the Heliopause, and that interstellar gas is now a more dominant force than Solar Wind. For reference the Heliopause is roughly 4 times further away than Pluto.

P.S. How did you rename the links to those two pages. Is there a way I can do that in future, or not??

[brian]

Kuiper Belt:

A lazy search on Google places the Kuiper belt at a distance of around 30-50 AU, with the Oort Cloud itself spreading upto around 100,000 AU.

Articles referenced (and some are quite interesting, all from different angles): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.



Pioneer 10

Those articles linked to on Pioneer 10 before are very old - so I ran a new search but this was the only other article - and the most recent - to mention the slowing issue. No details or explanation given.

Of course, if someone really wanted to they could claim there's a conspiracy theory that Pioneer 10 was switched off precisely because it had flown by Nibiru, discovered alien life, and therefore NASA wanted to hide all information on the issue from the rest of us folks on earth. Actually, I bet if you posted that information on the Planet X messageboard then within a year most of the Nibiru websites would carry that information as fact. Net experiement anyone? Nah - misinformation isn't my thing.

PS - Oops - just noticed this article from the BBC last year, which just happens to mention that it was still apparently within the Heliosphere.



URL posting

I really ought to post a sticky thread on the issue of the tags used almost universally around forums - not just YaBB SE (like this one), but UBB, vBulls, etc.

Anyway, posting an URL with title is done like this (but without any of the spaces in the brackets):

[ url=http://url.com ]The text you want the link in[ /url ]

[Fijimand]

As I have learned in my class here at college, the nemesis theory and Planet X have an effect on each other. The planet of course has been named, but its not a planet at all, in Pluto is not a planet either, but it has not been changed it status in the world of astronomy due to the fact that it has to called a planet for so long. The Idea of a large rock planet past pluto is rather unlike due to the way the solar system was formed. however something does effect the orbit of pluto it has an eliptic orbit of +- 17 as the rest of the are within +-8 this is rather large difference, leavin the explanation to be something with a large gravatation pull. What who knows maybe I will have more info to come. If you would like to hear something interesting kinda like the nemesis theory, look up info on a dual moon that exisit around the earth.

[I, Brian]

Dual moon around the earth? Not encountered that idea before, but it does sound interesting. Do you have any links to that?

Oh - and welcome to the chronicles-network, Fijimand.

[Stalker]

Elohim is just a plural of Eloh or Allah that in Semitic language means God.
Ha-shem by Sitchin means people from the shems but this semantics faces serious arguments. There's also another word Nephilim (sp.?)...