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Old 3rd February 2005, 07:59 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Thank goodness for Jacksons' LOTRs so now New Zealand can be known for something other than the place where they filmed Xena and Hercules!
HAHA!! Actually I didn't know they filmed Xena and Hercules there, the only thing I knew about NZ before LOTR was that there is a lot of sheep there...
As for the movie, I am highly against any books being turned into movies because they're rarely done well. (Just look at Harry Potter, and the lesser known Joy Luck Club, Looking for Alibrandi and such)
But if it must be turned into something, I would like it to be turned into an anime, as someone already suggested because, it would be a lot better as a series because the books are just too detailed to be squeezed into 3hr. It would also be a lot easier for the directors/creators not to leave out lesser characters due to lack of budget or something. And some scenes would look a lot better in anime form... maybe some people are thinking of Pokemon or Spirited Away or something when they think about anime, but if you look at some of the more sci-fi/fantasy based anime that are aimed at the older audience, the idea of turning SoIaF into an anime wouldn't be that bad an idea... but then again, I'm probably very very biased regarding this matter...
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Old 4th February 2005, 12:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't know about anime or CGI or anything like that. If you really wanted to do the story as a whole, I think it would have to be done as a live-action television series along the lines of Band of Brothers. Something like ten or twelve hour to an hour-and-a-half long eps for each book, and then each episode focussing on a particular section/set of characters - for instance the first would probably be set in Winterfell and encompass the finding of the wolves, Robert arriving, Bran falling, and the departure to Kings Landing. Then you could do eps entirely centred around Dany's story line, Tyrion's storyline, Catelyn's story line and so on, and devote the time to establishing character and staying true to the plot, with each ep almost a self-contained movie. As far as actors go I'd go for unknowns or chameleon character actors, to make sure the story is at the front, not whos in it. Though Michael Wincott would be great as either Bron or the Hound, I reckon.

Of course, this would cost an absolute fortune - the sets, the costumes, the effects, the cast and crew - and probably wouldn't break even, so I doubt it would ever happen. But it's nice to dream.
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Old 4th February 2005, 01:48 PM   #33 (permalink)
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What about Russell Crowe for the Hound?
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Old 4th February 2005, 04:15 PM   #34 (permalink)
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ok i know the topic is for a movie of aGoT but a movie of hedge knight would be pretty cool too. it wouldnt be so long and costly make in comparison. if hedge knight the movie became a hit then there would be more support for making movies of the books. i would have to agree on the idea that aGoT would be done similarly to band of brothers. however i think expensive miniseries are not the favorite projects of hollywood nowadays. a few years ago when merlin, odyssey, jason and the argonauts etc came out they did not rate well i think. anime would be good if every bit of the story has to be shown. the downside to anime is that any voice acting in english is usually subpar.
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Old 4th February 2005, 10:44 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: A Game Of Thrones: The Movie

Now, this is a topic that my friend and I have talked over quite a bit.


Somehow I don't see Eric Bana as Davos; Davos is forty/fifty years old!

We thought Patrick Stewart would be good as Tywin, and someone along the lines of Sharon Stone (I know, she's too old now!) as Cersei. Also, the Draco Malfoy kid as Joffrey?

Good choice for Bronn.

My brother suggested John Malkovich(sp?) for Roose Bolton. Sounds about right to me- they both creep me out, and the voice/eyes are just about right.

On the other hand, I also agree with no-names (good ones!) being picked to play the roles. I would hate to think of Cersei as Nicole Kidman instead of a Lannister, etc, etc.

However, when it's all said and done, I'm all for the books remaining in their pure form, because I'd be really steamed if they screwed it up or left something out, or (God forbid!) got a character really wrong.
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Old 4th February 2005, 11:09 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Tejturtle - Hedge Knight was the premise for the movie 'A Knights Tale'. The artist who pencilled the Hedge Knight graphic novels, Mike S Miller, has made comments about making ASOIAF into a graphic novel. I hope he can draw fast.
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Old 5th February 2005, 03:52 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Now, this is a topic that my friend and I have talked over quite a bit.


Somehow I don't see Eric Bana as Davos; Davos is forty/fifty years old!

We thought Patrick Stewart would be good as Tywin, and someone along the lines of Sharon Stone (I know, she's too old now!) as Cersei. Also, the Draco Malfoy kid as Joffrey?

Good choice for Bronn.

My brother suggested John Malkovich(sp?) for Roose Bolton. Sounds about right to me- they both creep me out, and the voice/eyes are just about right.

On the other hand, I also agree with no-names (good ones!) being picked to play the roles. I would hate to think of Cersei as Nicole Kidman instead of a Lannister, etc, etc.

However, when it's all said and done, I'm all for the books remaining in their pure form, because I'd be really steamed if they screwed it up or left something out, or (God forbid!) got a character really wrong.
It's clear we need a movie. NO QUESTION! The fact that any fan would conceive otherwise, causes me doubt their commitment to the series. LOTR was done beautifully by Peter Jackson, who could easily assume that role again for ASoIaF.

The Malfoy idea for Joff was great!

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Old 5th February 2005, 07:23 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I can't see a movie being good at all, in only 2.5 hours you'd lose 90% of the story in the book. I think it could be done as a live action tv series, thinking Sci-Fi channel adaptation like "Dune" and "Earthsea." One hour episodes, each episode would follow one character point of view for the hour, then next week it would be a differrent character pov following the order they come up in the book.
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Old 5th February 2005, 08:56 PM   #39 (permalink)
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The trouble with an adaptation is that GRRM fan concerns would surely come as secondary to any general marketing concerns.
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Old 5th February 2005, 09:29 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Well, we need not worry...GRRM has stated bluntly that it's very unlikely to happen...

To quote the man himself:

Q:Are there any plans for a movie or television series based on A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE?

A:Not at present. Anything is possible, of course, but the sheer size and complexity of the books would make them very difficult to film. Peter Jackson is doing an astonishing job of bringing Tolkien's trilogy to the film, but he's needed three movies to do so. All three volumes of LORD OF THE RINGS put together are about as long as A STORM OF SWORDS. By that standard, it would require nine films just to cover the three books I've published so far, and probably nine more for the rest of the series. No studio is ever going to commit to eighteen films. A more feasible approach might be to shoot the series as a television miniseries, but it would need to be a long miniseries, along the lines of ROOTS and SHOGUN, and the networks seldom produce series of that length these days. So I think the chances for a film or TV series are slim. Sorry.
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Old 6th February 2005, 05:04 AM   #41 (permalink)
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i was wondering if anybody was going to point out that quote from GRRM site. although it seems strange to go by number of pages to establish the lenth of the a movie. even including everything in the books i dont think the estimate would be 1 hour = 100 pages. lots of pages could be the result of detailed and descriptive style of writing which can be captured by a single shot on camera or a well acted scene. at the same time with the established estimate of 6 books averaging close to 1000 pages each, any hollywood adaptation seems far fetched.
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Re: A Game Of Thrones: The Movie

I think I may have mentioned before that one approach to film it would be to take just one or two characters, and simply tell their point of view story. However, of course, that would turn other POV characters into nothing more than supporting roles. So I'm sure there would be a problem of choosing which characters (s) to make the focus of a film.
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Old 6th February 2005, 10:08 AM   #43 (permalink)
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yes I agree Brian. Tis why I think it would be too difficult to make this book into a film. You would be appealing to just a certain number of people as opposed to the entire audience the book has.
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I think the whole argument of the movie depends on whether or not they would either condense (ala LOTR) the stories or try and do it as a trilogy.
I think the "easiest" part to film would be Roberts Rebellion against the Targaryens.
It would be a fairly tight 2hr movie if the prologue was done right

Of course, that would mean getting rid of Dragons, Others and everything else magical

still could be cool though

ideas:
Ned:Gabriel Byrne
Jamie: hate to say it, but Leo Di Cap or Orlando Bloom could do the good looking swine well
Robert: the guy from Gladiator (the big German fella who dies at the very beginning!) would be good, but hows about Brian Blessed?
Jon: Jake Gyllenhall (donnie darko)
Tyrion: Warwick Davies (or digitally shrunk i.e. LOTR Kevin Spacey)

actually, putting this together, I notice the lack of African-type characters in GRRM book's - sad really, it excludes a lot of talented actors
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Old 7th February 2005, 11:56 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I don't know why, but every time I picture Gregor Clegane, the guy who played General Kael in "Willow" pops into my head. Maybe it's because I was a little kid when I first saw it, and that guy scared the heck out of me...
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