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spider · 13th November 2001, 11:38 PM

Okay I just saw this movie for the first time last tight. I have some questions:

1) What was up with that mirror? Was it just to show that Neo can in fact manipulate the Matrix, but doesn't know how to controll it yet?

2) How does the Oracle know everything?

3) Why does the Oracle live within the Matrix?

4) Wouldn't the machines know that someone like the Oracle was within the Matrix, and take steps to silence her?

...more later...

imported_Data · 21st December 2002, 06:11 AM

www.whatisthematrix.com might have the answers to some of your questions

Tabitha · 21st December 2002, 10:49 AM

I wondered about the Oracle too - if all those 'gifted' children were being gathered there, even for brief periods of time, wouldn't it be quite dangerous? I don't believe we get to see the Oracle at all in the sequels, so I don't know if it will ever get explained.

Dave · 3rd January 2003, 10:07 AM

I don't know the real answers, but this was what I thought:

The mirror was there to show Neo's slow awakening to the real world; so it was symbolic and "just to show that Neo can in fact manipulate the Matrix, but doesn't know how to controll it yet?"

The Oracle is a psychic. She has premonitions and clairvoyance of real events, but like everyone else she is inside the Matrix, so nothing is real. She clearly doesn't know everything, since she says that Neo is not "the One", but she did see the future; something that even the Matrix itself would be unable to predict.

Agent Smith and the other Sentient programs ought to detect her and seek her out and destroy her. Morpheus and Neo did take unusual steps to avoid being followed to the Oracle, but with all the other children there waiting to be tested, she would have been easy to track down. Maybe she has a sense of them coming and moves on to avoid them, maybe she can block them detecting her in some way.

whatsitsname · 28th January 2003, 09:33 AM

there is alot things that need explaining but it could be that the machines are thick(especially the agents)

Quill · 28th January 2003, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Dave
She clearly doesn't know everything, since she says that Neo is not "the One", but she did see the future; something that even the Matrix itself would be unable to predict.

Morpheus said the Oracle told Neo "exactly what he needed to hear." Not necessarily the truth. I don't think it was a matter of her not knowing that Neo was the One. He needed to hear that he wasn't the One, and that Morpheus was basically going to end up sacrificing himself for nothing. It pushed Neo past a lot of his doubts just in his efforts to save Morpheus.

Bleh...I don't know if that made much sense. Anyway, that was my impression of that scene. I could be wrong... :blush:

Tabitha · 28th January 2003, 12:15 PM

I think you are right Quill - Neo IS the One, and the Oracle knew that, but told him what he needed to hear. But I did wonder how it helped Neo to think that he wasn't the One - wouldn't trying to save Morpheus seem even less likely? I dunno.

Quill · 29th January 2003, 02:30 AM

In this case, I guess wacky reverse psychology was more effective than telling him flat out, "You're the One. Now go save the world, pal."

imported_Data · 31st January 2003, 12:14 AM

i'd have to agree with you. Before he was told that he wasn't the One, he was just trying to live up to everyone's expectations. Finding out that he wasn't allowed him to escape form that and focus on what he was doing, instead of trying to be the One. If that makes any sense...

pkgrl · 18th May 2003, 01:56 AM

Great questions!

Most will be answered in Reloaded, especially the ones about the Oracle.

I loved reading your interpretations though, guys. Can't wait to see what you have to say about Reloaded!

13th November 2001, 11:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
spider Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 359	questions Okay I just saw this movie for the first time last tight. I have some questions: 1) What was up with that mirror? Was it just to show that Neo can in fact manipulate the Matrix, but doesn't know how to controll it yet? 2) How does the Oracle know everything? 3) Why does the Oracle live within the Matrix? 4) Wouldn't the machines know that someone like the Oracle was within the Matrix, and take steps to silence her? ...more later...

21st December 2002, 06:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
imported_Data 'meba Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Alaska Posts: 362	www.whatisthematrix.com might have the answers to some of your questions

21st December 2002, 10:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,638	I wondered about the Oracle too - if all those 'gifted' children were being gathered there, even for brief periods of time, wouldn't it be quite dangerous? I don't believe we get to see the Oracle at all in the sequels, so I don't know if it will ever get explained.

3rd January 2003, 10:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,516	I don't know the real answers, but this was what I thought: The mirror was there to show Neo's slow awakening to the real world; so it was symbolic and "just to show that Neo can in fact manipulate the Matrix, but doesn't know how to controll it yet?" The Oracle is a psychic. She has premonitions and clairvoyance of real events, but like everyone else she is inside the Matrix, so nothing is real. She clearly doesn't know everything, since she says that Neo is not "the One", but she did see the future; something that even the Matrix itself would be unable to predict. Agent Smith and the other Sentient programs ought to detect her and seek her out and destroy her. Morpheus and Neo did take unusual steps to avoid being followed to the Oracle, but with all the other children there waiting to be tested, she would have been easy to track down. Maybe she has a sense of them coming and moves on to avoid them, maybe she can block them detecting her in some way.

28th January 2003, 09:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
whatsitsname Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7	there is alot things that need explaining but it could be that the machines are thick(especially the agents)

28th January 2003, 12:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tabitha Save Angel! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,638	I think you are right Quill - Neo IS the One, and the Oracle knew that, but told him what he needed to hear. But I did wonder how it helped Neo to think that he wasn't the One - wouldn't trying to save Morpheus seem even less likely? I dunno.

29th January 2003, 02:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Quill VKP Riskbreaker Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Undercity West Posts: 97	In this case, I guess wacky reverse psychology was more effective than telling him flat out, "You're the One. Now go save the world, pal."

31st January 2003, 12:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
imported_Data 'meba Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Alaska Posts: 362	i'd have to agree with you. Before he was told that he wasn't the One, he was just trying to live up to everyone's expectations. Finding out that he wasn't allowed him to escape form that and focus on what he was doing, instead of trying to be the One. If that makes any sense...

18th May 2003, 01:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
pkgrl Ultimate J/A shipper! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,423	Great questions! Most will be answered in Reloaded, especially the ones about the Oracle. I loved reading your interpretations though, guys. Can't wait to see what you have to say about Reloaded!