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dmalfoy · 6th November 2001, 08:04 PM

Ok when Spike went to Willow before he knew he had a chip in his head hesaid he was 126 when he was made in 1880. how?
What was he doing then?

obcooke · 7th November 2001, 12:21 AM

Almost certainly it should be that he was made in 1880 and is 126 years old today, not 126 years old WHEN he was made.

You need to see Season 5 - #085 Fool for Love or you can click on the title and read my summary of what we know about William before, during and after he became Spike.

SolidSnake2000 · 7th November 2001, 08:18 PM

very informative.

dmalfoy · 7th November 2001, 11:58 PM

sorry i phrased it wrong but my question is still the same that was in 2000 or 2001 and if he was made in 1880 he should be 120 not 126. Even if you count his human years if he were 126 he would have had to have been 6 yrs old when he was made. It doesn't work out. I want theories on what could have happened to add the years.

obcooke · 8th November 2001, 01:19 AM

Oh I see. I did that post quickly before going to work and I guess my brain wasn't in gear yet. The math is obviously wrong. Very strange.

dmalfoy · 8th November 2001, 07:44 PM

so any theories?

SolidSnake2000 · 8th November 2001, 07:52 PM

it was probably just a slip up. someone not thinking fully.

dmalfoy · 8th November 2001, 08:01 PM

oH COME ON I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ALTERNATE UNIVERSES OR HE WENT BACK IN TIME AND SPENT 6 YEARS AS A CAT. THHE WIERDER THE BETTER!

markpud · 8th November 2001, 11:52 PM

hmm, an interesting little error in the continuity it seems? I can't remember the details of "The Initiative" when Spikes confrontation with Willow occurs, so i'll have to take your word for it about his age...

obcooke · 9th November 2001, 01:19 AM

[markpud: I can't remember the details of "The Initiative"....so i'll have to take your word for it about his age...]

Wrong, oh moderator. You never have to take anyone's word for it as long as Psyche: Buffy Transcripts exists.

They have transcripts of the episodes that are about 99-100% accurate with only an occassional minor transcription error.

According to their recording of #63 The Initiative, Spike laments "I'm only 126."

SolidSnake2000 · 10th November 2001, 08:41 PM

so the question still stands...

Analise · 12th November 2001, 02:46 PM

The way I've seen it explained away is that Spike just likes to say that, essentially.

Either that or he can't do simple math.

Then there's always the whole "Why in heck did dru sire him, specially when Angelus would made a much better sire and Spike did call him "Sire" in 'School Hard'."

Heh...I'll be going to class now.

dmalfoy · 12th November 2001, 03:51 PM

Well how i see t the reason Dru sired him was cos she could see something in him that others couldn't. Umm he is probably like the sane version of her. Probably the reason they stayed together so long. They could see the world in a more romanticised fashion than most people dru was the extreme of him. her ramblings and his failed peotry.

SolidSnake2000 · 12th November 2001, 07:46 PM

yeah, i agree with what dmalfoy said.

dmalfoy · 12th November 2001, 11:42 PM

Wow thanx. I actually made sense to someone

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7th November 2001, 12:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	Almost certainly it should be that he was made in 1880 and is 126 years old today, not 126 years old WHEN he was made. You need to see Season 5 - #085 Fool for Love or you can click on the title and read my summary of what we know about William before, during and after he became Spike.

7th November 2001, 08:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
SolidSnake2000 Faith wants me... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 298	very informative.

7th November 2001, 11:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
dmalfoy THE GODFATHER Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: england Posts: 1,166	sorry i phrased it wrong but my question is still the same that was in 2000 or 2001 and if he was made in 1880 he should be 120 not 126. Even if you count his human years if he were 126 he would have had to have been 6 yrs old when he was made. It doesn't work out. I want theories on what could have happened to add the years.

8th November 2001, 01:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	Oh I see. I did that post quickly before going to work and I guess my brain wasn't in gear yet. The math is obviously wrong. Very strange.

8th November 2001, 07:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
dmalfoy THE GODFATHER Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: england Posts: 1,166	so any theories?

8th November 2001, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
SolidSnake2000 Faith wants me... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 298	it was probably just a slip up. someone not thinking fully.

8th November 2001, 08:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
dmalfoy THE GODFATHER Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: england Posts: 1,166	oH COME ON I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ALTERNATE UNIVERSES OR HE WENT BACK IN TIME AND SPENT 6 YEARS AS A CAT. THHE WIERDER THE BETTER!

8th November 2001, 11:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	hmm, an interesting little error in the continuity it seems? I can't remember the details of "The Initiative" when Spikes confrontation with Willow occurs, so i'll have to take your word for it about his age...

9th November 2001, 01:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	[markpud: I can't remember the details of "The Initiative"....so i'll have to take your word for it about his age...] Wrong, oh moderator. You never have to take anyone's word for it as long as Psyche: Buffy Transcripts exists. They have transcripts of the episodes that are about 99-100% accurate with only an occassional minor transcription error. According to their recording of #63 The Initiative, Spike laments "I'm only 126."

10th November 2001, 08:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
SolidSnake2000 Faith wants me... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 298	so the question still stands...

12th November 2001, 02:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
Analise Blondishness Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 590	The way I've seen it explained away is that Spike just likes to say that, essentially. Either that or he can't do simple math. Then there's always the whole "Why in heck did dru sire him, specially when Angelus would made a much better sire and Spike did call him "Sire" in 'School Hard'." Heh...I'll be going to class now.

12th November 2001, 03:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
dmalfoy THE GODFATHER Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: england Posts: 1,166	Well how i see t the reason Dru sired him was cos she could see something in him that others couldn't. Umm he is probably like the sane version of her. Probably the reason they stayed together so long. They could see the world in a more romanticised fashion than most people dru was the extreme of him. her ramblings and his failed peotry.

12th November 2001, 07:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
SolidSnake2000 Faith wants me... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 298	yeah, i agree with what dmalfoy said.

12th November 2001, 11:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
dmalfoy THE GODFATHER Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: england Posts: 1,166	Wow thanx. I actually made sense to someone