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Jobeth · 17th January 2002, 04:09 AM

I was expecting one of the Goa'ulds to eat his symbiote with fava beans and a fine chianti.

Last Stand wasn't nearly as good as Summit. The continuity people should be flogged. Oh well, at least Teal'c got a speaking role in this episode. I knew Lt. Redshirt* was going to buy the farm when he professed his love for Sam. The Carter Curse strikes again.

Still, it was better than D&C and Entity.

*A 'redshirt' is a disposable character, named after the anonymous redshirted characters on Star Trek TOS who were always getting killed off.

jsc · 17th January 2002, 05:30 PM

Yes, Jobeth, Thanks!
It is interesting considering that Teal'c and Daniel are the 'experts' on the Goa'uld that they finally let Teal'c speak!
Don't get me going on the Teal'c as Good Black Servant thing, girl!

He was soooo very loquacious in "48 Hours" and "Proving Ground."...perhaps his eyebrow is tired?

ShelbyS · 22nd January 2002, 02:53 PM

Question: Why doesn't Sam carry around her Goa'uld healing device with her when they go on mission?

The thing could come in handy and we know that she knows how to use it. So why doesn't she take it with her. It may have saved Elliot (Do the Tok'Ra allow themselves to use the Healing Device? They don't use the sarcophagus, so is it any differetn? I ask this cos Lantash might have objected if Sam tried to heal them.).

skydiver · 22nd January 2002, 03:26 PM

good question! why doesn't she carry one? along the same vein...when they had a sarc in their hands in need...why didn't they grab the thing?
yes i know it has addictive properties but...it seems to only be addictive if you're healthy when you go into it...if you're dying it doesn't appear to addict you.

i think teh answer to the healing device quiestion is the same to teh sarc one...having a miracle cure handy sure takes teh suspense outta life and death circumstances.

ShelbyS · 22nd January 2002, 03:58 PM

Good answer. True.

I also think that's the same kinda thing in the Warrior last week.
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When they asked for Zat guns and the SGC didn't have any to spare. How many Serpent Guards have they shot over the years? They could get a whole collection going if they toook all the weapons of th people they killed. I guess it kinda ruins the fun if they always havve the answeres or in this case, ammo.

skoon · 22nd January 2002, 04:14 PM

ya, & didn't they get all those zats from Seths place or did they leave them there for the police to find?

Dave · 22nd January 2002, 04:20 PM

They must have thousands of Zats. Not to have collected up weapons, which could be later used against you again, in a future fight makes no sense.

So, here are my two best explanations: either they were lying, and they have them all in storage somewhere, and want to keep them for themselves; or the NID have taken them and dismantled them to discover how they work.

skoon · 22nd January 2002, 04:22 PM

good point. Haven't watched Warrier yet, it's currently downloading onto my machine at work.

jsc · 22nd January 2002, 04:45 PM

You people have given rise to what I want to ask. Why haven't the SGC teams been given zats as well as p-90's to carry off world? They (the SGC) must have lots of them by now! And I thought they wanted their people well armed and protected. So I would have given them both!

skoon · 22nd January 2002, 06:07 PM

maybe incase they come in contact with replicators or machines like Thor's hammer that disable G technology.

skoon · 22nd January 2002, 06:08 PM

oh & a last thought, maybee they took all the powe sources out of the zats to make the naquida generators or what ever.

Anni · 22nd January 2002, 06:28 PM

I think that the writers decided it was too much trouble to take notice of continuity from former episodes and it didn't suit the storyline for SG1 to collect up the weapons and take them all home for storage in an armoury.

Sam doesn't take the healing device because it would be too convenient to have her healing folk all over the place because then it wouldn't suit the storyline if someone, like Elliott was condemned by the writers to die because it WAS in the storyline!

They don't take the sarc's they find because well..... then they would be able to use that as well and it wouldn't suit the angsty storylines where someone is near death. After all, if they did have one then.........

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they would be able to use the damn thing to revive Daniel, then he wouldn't die and need to ascend in the first place!

In reality. If SG1 and the SGC existed they would be collecting all kinds of weaponry like crazy.....some would go for back engineering, as would the sarcophagus and the teams would be armed with both conventional weapons and zats.

What can I say? This is not reality and any discussion over why they do or don't do something is our imaginative conjecture.

jsc · 22nd January 2002, 08:01 PM

LOLLOL! And this isn't an imaginative congecture!

skoon · 22nd January 2002, 08:04 PM

Way to go Anni!

Garron · 8th February 2002, 01:00 AM

First and foremost, I'm not a new fan to SG. Rather, a new member to this site.

I believed that Last Stand should have ended on a better note. Can't I see Lt. Eliot/Lantash save the day? How does that work? No doubt, I'm not a producer/director/or actor by trade, but I am a fan.

The bottom line is that this is a great episode. Lots of flashes, weapons use, and techo jargon that kept me away from reading articles for school. Keep the good work.

8th February 2002, 01:00 AM	#45 (permalink)
Garron Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 135	Last Stand Ending (SPOILER!!) First and foremost, I'm not a new fan to SG. Rather, a new member to this site. I believed that Last Stand should have ended on a better note. Can't I see Lt. Eliot/Lantash save the day? How does that work? No doubt, I'm not a producer/director/or actor by trade, but I am a fan. The bottom line is that this is a great episode. Lots of flashes, weapons use, and techo jargon that kept me away from reading articles for school. Keep the good work.

17th January 2002, 04:09 AM	#31 (permalink)
Jobeth Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charm City Posts: 236	I was expecting one of the Goa'ulds to eat his symbiote with fava beans and a fine chianti. Last Stand wasn't nearly as good as Summit. The continuity people should be flogged. Oh well, at least Teal'c got a speaking role in this episode. I knew Lt. Redshirt* was going to buy the farm when he professed his love for Sam. The Carter Curse strikes again. Still, it was better than D&C and Entity. *A 'redshirt' is a disposable character, named after the anonymous redshirted characters on Star Trek TOS who were always getting killed off.

17th January 2002, 05:30 PM	#32 (permalink)
jsc God Like Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California,U.S.A. Posts: 4,353	Yes, Jobeth, Thanks! It is interesting considering that Teal'c and Daniel are the 'experts' on the Goa'uld that they finally let Teal'c speak! Don't get me going on the Teal'c as Good Black Servant thing, girl! He was soooo very loquacious in "48 Hours" and "Proving Ground."...perhaps his eyebrow is tired?

22nd January 2002, 02:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
ShelbyS Rob Cooper's #1 Fan Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,567	Question: Why doesn't Sam carry around her Goa'uld healing device with her when they go on mission? The thing could come in handy and we know that she knows how to use it. So why doesn't she take it with her. It may have saved Elliot (Do the Tok'Ra allow themselves to use the Healing Device? They don't use the sarcophagus, so is it any differetn? I ask this cos Lantash might have objected if Sam tried to heal them.).

22nd January 2002, 03:26 PM	#34 (permalink)
skydiver Trivia Goddess Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: topeka, ks, usa- 7 1/2 hours due east of Cheyenne Mountain Posts: 2,856	good question! why doesn't she carry one? along the same vein...when they had a sarc in their hands in need...why didn't they grab the thing? yes i know it has addictive properties but...it seems to only be addictive if you're healthy when you go into it...if you're dying it doesn't appear to addict you. i think teh answer to the healing device quiestion is the same to teh sarc one...having a miracle cure handy sure takes teh suspense outta life and death circumstances.

22nd January 2002, 03:58 PM	#35 (permalink)
ShelbyS Rob Cooper's #1 Fan Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,567	Good answer. True. I also think that's the same kinda thing in the Warrior last week. * * * * * * When they asked for Zat guns and the SGC didn't have any to spare. How many Serpent Guards have they shot over the years? They could get a whole collection going if they toook all the weapons of th people they killed. I guess it kinda ruins the fun if they always havve the answeres or in this case, ammo.

22nd January 2002, 04:14 PM	#36 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	ya, & didn't they get all those zats from Seths place or did they leave them there for the police to find?

22nd January 2002, 04:20 PM	#37 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,602	They must have thousands of Zats. Not to have collected up weapons, which could be later used against you again, in a future fight makes no sense. So, here are my two best explanations: either they were lying, and they have them all in storage somewhere, and want to keep them for themselves; or the NID have taken them and dismantled them to discover how they work.

22nd January 2002, 04:22 PM	#38 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	good point. Haven't watched Warrier yet, it's currently downloading onto my machine at work.

22nd January 2002, 04:45 PM	#39 (permalink)
jsc God Like Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California,U.S.A. Posts: 4,353	You people have given rise to what I want to ask. Why haven't the SGC teams been given zats as well as p-90's to carry off world? They (the SGC) must have lots of them by now! And I thought they wanted their people well armed and protected. So I would have given them both!

22nd January 2002, 06:07 PM	#40 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	maybe incase they come in contact with replicators or machines like Thor's hammer that disable G technology.

22nd January 2002, 06:08 PM	#41 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	oh & a last thought, maybee they took all the powe sources out of the zats to make the naquida generators or what ever.

22nd January 2002, 06:28 PM	#42 (permalink)
Anni Chronos' Love Slave Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Third star on the left and straight on till morning! Posts: 1,371	I think that the writers decided it was too much trouble to take notice of continuity from former episodes and it didn't suit the storyline for SG1 to collect up the weapons and take them all home for storage in an armoury. Sam doesn't take the healing device because it would be too convenient to have her healing folk all over the place because then it wouldn't suit the storyline if someone, like Elliott was condemned by the writers to die because it WAS in the storyline! They don't take the sarc's they find because well..... then they would be able to use that as well and it wouldn't suit the angsty storylines where someone is near death. After all, if they did have one then......... Meridian S P O I L E R they would be able to use the damn thing to revive Daniel, then he wouldn't die and need to ascend in the first place! In reality. If SG1 and the SGC existed they would be collecting all kinds of weaponry like crazy.....some would go for back engineering, as would the sarcophagus and the teams would be armed with both conventional weapons and zats. What can I say? This is not reality and any discussion over why they do or don't do something is our imaginative conjecture.

22nd January 2002, 08:01 PM	#43 (permalink)
jsc God Like Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California,U.S.A. Posts: 4,353	LOLLOL! And this isn't an imaginative congecture!

22nd January 2002, 08:04 PM	#44 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	Way to go Anni!