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Bayleaf48 · 11th September 2002, 12:37 PM

Then that's why he's more liked than Riley, I suppose

:blush:

PamYou · 4th October 2002, 01:16 AM

I love Spike. And to me, James Marsters is the hottest actor in the world. He turns me to mush.
Pam

angelle myst · 4th October 2002, 01:52 AM

Mush and goo and a big drool puddle! I think of Spike/James Marsters, then I think, yuck Riley. They just arent comparable!

tokyogirl · 7th December 2002, 07:20 PM

gotta say ditto to that. i don't know why all the threads keep dying off!

Highlander II · 9th December 2002, 09:48 PM

they keep dying b/c you can only have the same argument so many times --

Spike is better than Riley - but not only on just the 'looks' front -

Spike is a much more interesting character. While Riley had that 'sneaky' Initiative bit going on, he still was 'clean cut' American-bred, mama's boy (well, he coulda been a daddy's boy, but it doesn't really matter). Riley was flat - and Spike's description of him as "Captain Cardboard" was right in more ways than just that insult. Riley had no depth - we learned everything there was to learn about Iowa-farm-boy in the first 4 episodes he was in.

Spike, OTOH, has so much more depth. There is still, after all these seasons, so much about him we DON'T know. He was evil - yeah, and he wasn't so evil as a human - but we don't know everything - b/c he doesn't tell anyone anything - well, not so much. He's mysterious - and he's shown that way from the beginning. He's brash and harsh and wants to hit stuff, but there's also mystery to him. Not to mention he's a creature of the night. He's much more fun to watch run around w/ his blanket smoking than Riley is just walking in the sunlight.

Spike - deep; Riley - flat.

The writers have a great deal to do with that too - but that's a whole other bit...

tokyogirl · 9th December 2002, 11:23 PM

i guess you're right about the arguements and all, but what about all the rest of these threads? where does everone keep gonig?

Highlander II · 10th December 2002, 01:31 AM

dunno - character sections are harder to keep going - esp b/c of spoiler issues --

much of the character discussion - esp of Spike, recently, is happening in the S7 section --

start up something - might get more ppl here - but, from my understanding, these are the hard ones to keep busy -

anyway -- Spike still rules heads above Riley ---

Sorceress Willow · 18th January 2003, 10:27 PM

Oh Yeah! in every way!

tokyogirl · 20th January 2003, 04:35 AM

been watchin reruns lately and once again reliving why riley sucks so bad *shudder*

markpud · 5th February 2003, 11:39 AM

Strangely enough, after re-watching seasons 4 and 5 I liked Riley more this time through. It was interesting to see his clean-cut image slip as he got lost in his love for Buffy. And to end up getting bitten for kicks and looking for attention because he realised what we all knew... Buffy didn't love him, didn't need him.

I got more sympathy for the guy this time through.

Still agree that he had nowhere near as much depth as Spike does though...

angelle myst · 5th February 2003, 02:05 PM

I still don't like the guy very much but (Killer In Me spoiler) -

i have to give kudos to him for his one indirect line in last nights ep - The leader of the soldiers waves the men's guns down as he addresses Buffy "He indicated you might be needing our assistance. We're to provide you with anything you need to help ass-face here." The leader motions towards Spike as Buffy looks at him a little pi**ed. "Those were his exact words, Ma'am."

It made me giggle when i read Leoff's Wildfeed so i think that little moment is what i like about Riley

xxx

tokyogirl · 16th April 2003, 03:32 AM

that was pretty good

Sorceress Willow · 28th January 2004, 04:03 PM

I still find it hard to believe someone voted Riley over Spike.

Spike is so.....mmmmmmm. he-he He was Naughty... and now he's... nicer.

Shaun · 29th January 2004, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sorceress Willow
I still find it hard to believe someone voted Riley over Spike.

I agree, talk about tasteless.

tokyogirl · 31st January 2004, 06:21 PM

ok, i don't know if i mentioned this here somewhere already, or if this is just a conversation i had with my sister. in retrospect i guess i don't hate riley as much. ( don't hit me!) in watching my dvd's i got for christmas of season 4 i realized i missed a few episodes originally. i think if i had seen the one where riley keeps going to willow to figure out how to win buffy over ( i think it was 5.07????) i think i might not have hated him as strongly.

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11th September 2002, 12:37 PM	#136 (permalink)
Bayleaf48 Hero Of Time Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Barnstaple, North Devon Posts: 3,126	Then that's why he's more liked than Riley, I suppose :blush:

4th October 2002, 01:16 AM	#137 (permalink)
PamYou Artist Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: U.S.A Posts: 77	I love Spike. And to me, James Marsters is the hottest actor in the world. He turns me to mush. Pam

4th October 2002, 01:52 AM	#138 (permalink)
angelle myst Ash Join Date: May 2002 Location: Yorkshire, England. Posts: 1,772	Mush and goo and a big drool puddle! I think of Spike/James Marsters, then I think, yuck Riley. They just arent comparable!

7th December 2002, 07:20 PM	#139 (permalink)
tokyogirl krycek's love slave Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: TEXAS!!! Posts: 2,098	gotta say ditto to that. i don't know why all the threads keep dying off!

9th December 2002, 09:48 PM	#140 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,470	they keep dying b/c you can only have the same argument so many times -- Spike is better than Riley - but not only on just the 'looks' front - Spike is a much more interesting character. While Riley had that 'sneaky' Initiative bit going on, he still was 'clean cut' American-bred, mama's boy (well, he coulda been a daddy's boy, but it doesn't really matter). Riley was flat - and Spike's description of him as "Captain Cardboard" was right in more ways than just that insult. Riley had no depth - we learned everything there was to learn about Iowa-farm-boy in the first 4 episodes he was in. Spike, OTOH, has so much more depth. There is still, after all these seasons, so much about him we DON'T know. He was evil - yeah, and he wasn't so evil as a human - but we don't know everything - b/c he doesn't tell anyone anything - well, not so much. He's mysterious - and he's shown that way from the beginning. He's brash and harsh and wants to hit stuff, but there's also mystery to him. Not to mention he's a creature of the night. He's much more fun to watch run around w/ his blanket smoking than Riley is just walking in the sunlight. Spike - deep; Riley - flat. The writers have a great deal to do with that too - but that's a whole other bit...

9th December 2002, 11:23 PM	#141 (permalink)
tokyogirl krycek's love slave Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: TEXAS!!! Posts: 2,098	i guess you're right about the arguements and all, but what about all the rest of these threads? where does everone keep gonig?

10th December 2002, 01:31 AM	#142 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,470	dunno - character sections are harder to keep going - esp b/c of spoiler issues -- much of the character discussion - esp of Spike, recently, is happening in the S7 section -- start up something - might get more ppl here - but, from my understanding, these are the hard ones to keep busy - anyway -- Spike still rules heads above Riley ---

18th January 2003, 10:27 PM	#143 (permalink)
Sorceress Willow A Daikini Sorceress Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 139	Oh Yeah! in every way!

20th January 2003, 04:35 AM	#144 (permalink)
tokyogirl krycek's love slave Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: TEXAS!!! Posts: 2,098	been watchin reruns lately and once again reliving why riley sucks so bad shudder

5th February 2003, 11:39 AM	#145 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	Strangely enough, after re-watching seasons 4 and 5 I liked Riley more this time through. It was interesting to see his clean-cut image slip as he got lost in his love for Buffy. And to end up getting bitten for kicks and looking for attention because he realised what we all knew... Buffy didn't love him, didn't need him. I got more sympathy for the guy this time through. Still agree that he had nowhere near as much depth as Spike does though...

5th February 2003, 02:05 PM	#146 (permalink)
angelle myst Ash Join Date: May 2002 Location: Yorkshire, England. Posts: 1,772	I still don't like the guy very much but (Killer In Me spoiler) - i have to give kudos to him for his one indirect line in last nights ep - The leader of the soldiers waves the men's guns down as he addresses Buffy "He indicated you might be needing our assistance. We're to provide you with anything you need to help ass-face here." The leader motions towards Spike as Buffy looks at him a little pi**ed. "Those were his exact words, Ma'am." It made me giggle when i read Leoff's Wildfeed so i think that little moment is what i like about Riley xxx

16th April 2003, 03:32 AM	#147 (permalink)
tokyogirl krycek's love slave Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: TEXAS!!! Posts: 2,098	that was pretty good

28th January 2004, 04:03 PM	#148 (permalink)
Sorceress Willow A Daikini Sorceress Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 139	I still find it hard to believe someone voted Riley over Spike. Spike is so.....mmmmmmm. he-he He was Naughty... and now he's... nicer.

31st January 2004, 06:21 PM	#150 (permalink)
tokyogirl krycek's love slave Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: TEXAS!!! Posts: 2,098	ok, i don't know if i mentioned this here somewhere already, or if this is just a conversation i had with my sister. in retrospect i guess i don't hate riley as much. ( don't hit me!) in watching my dvd's i got for christmas of season 4 i realized i missed a few episodes originally. i think if i had seen the one where riley keeps going to willow to figure out how to win buffy over ( i think it was 5.07????) i think i might not have hated him as strongly.