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Buffy What started out as a campy movie, became one of the hottest shows on TV, with seven action packed seasons. Discuss the complete Buffy: the Vampire Slayer saga here.


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Old 19th September 2001, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4.12 : A New Man

After a night out drinking with the scoundral Ethan Raynes, Giles wakes up not feeling himself. (OB)
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Old 20th February 2002, 12:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm watching the ep right now and something struck me...

Giles-as-demon goes to Xander at 10:30 am...i know cause giles mentions it and it's early daylight outside.

The Scoobies don't appear to start worrying about it until it gets dark, what's up with that?
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Old 20th February 2002, 04:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ya know - that's a really good question --


but i love the whole Spike - Giles interaction thing -- very funny!

Giles: Am I speaking English?
Spike: <with a laugh> No, you're speaking Fyarl. And I happen to speak Fyarl.


nice to know the guy's got some language skills!
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Old 20th February 2002, 01:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I like all the Ethan Rayne episodes (probably spelled his name wrong), but this one was a hoot and a half.

Once I'd finished watching it the first time, I had to rewind the tape back to the part where Giles-demon jumps out of the car and runs after Maggie especially following his line of (paraphrasing) "I refuse to act like a monster just because I look like one."

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Old 20th February 2002, 03:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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nope - you spelled it right -- Riley spells it out over his phone when he and Buffy are in the magic shop --

and Giles running after Maggie -- CLASSIC!! gotta cheer for him on that one -- don't like her -- i'd have chased her too! oh - and Spike thought it was great!

and did anyone notice that Spike was driving 'badly' until after Giles got out of the car, then he was a speed demon and taking turns like a pro? --- well, until he ran into that pile of garbage
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Old 20th February 2002, 03:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Gotta ask for those that saw the original before cut scenes.

Was there anything more to the crash after Spike runs into the trash? I've wondered about that ... a scene with Spike getting out of the car and wandering off. I kind of expected that he might have shown up at the motel going after Giles to see if he killed Ethan and watching with glee.

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Old 20th February 2002, 07:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yeah - i was wondering that too -- b/c they didn't show anything w/ Spike getting out of the car ---

i was expecting him to show up at the hotel and at least try to convince Buffy that the demon was Giles - but she, of course, wouldn't believe him, and Spike would just sigh and shrug and let her get whatever was coming -- and THEN have her figure out that it was Giles ---

see - i'm telling you -- 'close the storylines' -- they've gotta learn that! leaving things wide open like that is not only annoying, but bad writing ---- grrr argh!
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