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Aing-Tii · 19th September 2001, 01:14 AM

Okay~ I have another one of those questions that's been bugging me for a long time! So I am going to ask the experts here! :smile:

I've been trying to figure out how old Alexander is based on his days on TNG and then on DS9. It seems there is no way enough years could have passed for cute little Alexander to be grown up warrior on DS9.

Also, does the same actor play both roles? I shouldn't think so! I loved the young Alexander on TNG, he was one of my favorite characters, actually.

Any help in resolving this puzzle would be most appreciated! And I could stop thinking about it! :laugh2:

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markpud · 19th September 2001, 12:01 PM

I'm fairly sure it isn't the same actor, just trying to look that up now...

Possibly Klingons grow up faster than humans, I reckon Alexander was about 8 in TNG, and turned up 7 years later on DS9, therefore about 15 years old. But he looked older than that...

markpud · 19th September 2001, 01:26 PM

phew.. that took some searching...

Alexander has been played by three actors; Jon Steuer in Reunion, Marc Worden in "Sons and Daughters" and "You are Cordially Invited..." (both DS9), and Brian Bonsall in the rest of Alexander's episodes(TNG). (from http://people.mn.mediaone.net/rbohn/brian.htm)

Aing-Tii · 20th September 2001, 12:41 AM

Wow! You went to all that trouble just to answer my little old question?! :blush: Thanks!!

I didn't think it could be the same actor but they did a pretty good job matching up young Alexander with older Alexander. However I still wonder (sorry) if the the actor who plays DS9 Alex is using his own voice or it is dubbed. I always thougt it looked and sounded dubbed in.

I'm still trying to work the math out in my head (could take years

) from TNG to DS9. I figured Alexander could be as old as 10 at the end of TNG, which was 1994 our time. Then he shows up in what, Season 6 of DS9? So that is '97 or '98, I think. That would put him at 13 or 14 max.

That's why I get so confused by it. Of course I am counting the same amount of years elapsed in the ST Universe as out here in the "real" world.

I wondered if Klingons matured faster, too. But everything I've heard about Klingon physiology and their long life span makes me think they would mature more slowly. Plus they have redundant organ systems, whatever that means. Curious and fascinating.

(I can hear Shatner's response to this post: Get a Life! :laugh2

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markpud · 20th September 2001, 01:04 AM

lol..life is over-rated anyway

I guess Klingons could mature to full size faster, as they have a tough life, so evolution would indicate the best way to survive is to be at full strength...and then live longer....

Aing-Tii · 22nd September 2001, 08:42 PM

Works for me!

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Neo · 1st October 2001, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by markpud
phew.. that took some searching...

Alexander has been played by three actors; Jon Steuer in Reunion, Marc Worden in "Sons and Daughters" and "You are Cordially Invited..." (both DS9), and Brian Bonsall in the rest of Alexander's episodes(TNG). (from http://people.mn.mediaone.net/rbohn/brian.htm)

That is one great web site... tones of info on the kids of trek....

Dave · 2nd October 2001, 12:55 AM

Lots of fans commented on the speed Alexander grew up, but as Markpud said, you can always blame it on Klingon physiology. Niaomi Wildman grew up quickly too and thats what they said. The real reason is that the laws governing the use of child actors heavily restrict the time they can work, so it is easier if they grow up quick.

Alexander, one mixed up kid!

I just don't know how he grew up so normal -- first he doesn't have contact with his father, then he sees his mother murdered, his father ignores him. He is 1/4 Klingon, but lives with strange Human Russian/Jewish grandparents (who for some reason have New York American accents even though they have mostly lived on another planet called Gault). Made to go to school with Human kids, but when it doesn't work out, sent to boarding school with Klingon clerics as teachers. He eventually runs away and joins the Klingon Navy, only to have his father assigned to the same ship. I think that Deanna Troi was more interested in Alexander than Worf, she could have held a whole psychology conference about him alone!

PS: meant to say 1/4 Human.

Neo · 2nd October 2001, 01:36 AM

He certainly did have his problems to cope with as he grew up.... I mean his father drank prune juice.... eeeeeeeee

Aing-Tii · 2nd October 2001, 10:18 PM

I thought he was 1/4 human and 3/4 Klingon. He did have a tough time growing up. I felt sorry for him.

I always liked him though. He was such a sweetheart with a very tender heart. I thought that combination of being Klingon but with a gentle heart/spirit was terrific and wish they had developed that more.

I loved the eppy in TNG with Mrs. Troi and Alexander where she sort of takes him under her wing as she prepares to marry a very UN-Troi-like man. Now, she would have been an excellent choice to raise Alexander. Bet he would have turned out pretty cool under Lwaxana's tutelage!!!

Edited to add that I just loved that Worf drinks prune juice. "A warrior's drink!"

And I thought it was great they made Alexander sort of clumsy. I think it fits his character and his experiences well.

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Dave · 2nd October 2001, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Aing-Tii
I thought he was 1/4 human and 3/4 Klingon.

Sorry, he was, that's what I meant to say, typographical error!

Neo · 3rd October 2001, 07:54 PM

ow my word... dave made a mistake... he he he

BONNIESTACKPOLE · 3rd October 2001, 08:24 PM

Alexander was 3 when his mother was murdered. Can't remember what year that was. I also loved the episode where Lwaxanna Troi bonds with him. It was one of the best and funniest they ever made. I laughed so hard at the ending that it hurt! (Lwaxanna, Alexander, Deanna and Worf in the mud bath). :erm: :laugh: :laugh: :wink2:

Neo · 3rd October 2001, 08:29 PM

i loved the episode when worf was gonna die and he asked troi to become his son guardian... sad but a funny episode

Aing-Tii · 4th October 2001, 12:55 AM

Yeah, that mudbath scene was great!:lol: Worf's drollery was much in evidence. He's the perfect straight man, the jokes just bounce right off him.

I forget what year of TNG that Alexander was introduced. Seems like Worf and Alexander's mom (name? senility strikes again) created Alexander in the first season. So that would put Alex in S3 or S4. I think that makes him even younger than I thought! Gotta go do my math now. (Be back with the answer in a year or so :lol:!)

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19th September 2001, 01:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
Aing-Tii gimboid goddess! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West coast of USA Posts: 170	Alexander son of Worf Okay~ I have another one of those questions that's been bugging me for a long time! So I am going to ask the experts here! :smile: I've been trying to figure out how old Alexander is based on his days on TNG and then on DS9. It seems there is no way enough years could have passed for cute little Alexander to be grown up warrior on DS9. Also, does the same actor play both roles? I shouldn't think so! I loved the young Alexander on TNG, he was one of my favorite characters, actually. Any help in resolving this puzzle would be most appreciated! And I could stop thinking about it! :laugh2: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

3rd October 2001, 08:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
BONNIESTACKPOLE FARSCAPE FANATIC Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: BOSTON Posts: 661	ALEXANDER Alexander was 3 when his mother was murdered. Can't remember what year that was. I also loved the episode where Lwaxanna Troi bonds with him. It was one of the best and funniest they ever made. I laughed so hard at the ending that it hurt! (Lwaxanna, Alexander, Deanna and Worf in the mud bath). :erm: :laugh: :laugh: :wink2:

19th September 2001, 12:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	I'm fairly sure it isn't the same actor, just trying to look that up now... Possibly Klingons grow up faster than humans, I reckon Alexander was about 8 in TNG, and turned up 7 years later on DS9, therefore about 15 years old. But he looked older than that...

19th September 2001, 01:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	phew.. that took some searching... Alexander has been played by three actors; Jon Steuer in Reunion, Marc Worden in "Sons and Daughters" and "You are Cordially Invited..." (both DS9), and Brian Bonsall in the rest of Alexander's episodes(TNG). (from http://people.mn.mediaone.net/rbohn/brian.htm)

20th September 2001, 12:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
Aing-Tii gimboid goddess! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West coast of USA Posts: 170	Wow! You went to all that trouble just to answer my little old question?! :blush: Thanks!! I didn't think it could be the same actor but they did a pretty good job matching up young Alexander with older Alexander. However I still wonder (sorry) if the the actor who plays DS9 Alex is using his own voice or it is dubbed. I always thougt it looked and sounded dubbed in. I'm still trying to work the math out in my head (could take years ) from TNG to DS9. I figured Alexander could be as old as 10 at the end of TNG, which was 1994 our time. Then he shows up in what, Season 6 of DS9? So that is '97 or '98, I think. That would put him at 13 or 14 max. That's why I get so confused by it. Of course I am counting the same amount of years elapsed in the ST Universe as out here in the "real" world. I wondered if Klingons matured faster, too. But everything I've heard about Klingon physiology and their long life span makes me think they would mature more slowly. Plus they have redundant organ systems, whatever that means. Curious and fascinating. (I can hear Shatner's response to this post: Get a Life! :laugh2 :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

20th September 2001, 01:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	lol..life is over-rated anyway I guess Klingons could mature to full size faster, as they have a tough life, so evolution would indicate the best way to survive is to be at full strength...and then live longer....

22nd September 2001, 08:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Aing-Tii gimboid goddess! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West coast of USA Posts: 170	Works for me! :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

2nd October 2001, 12:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,440	Lots of fans commented on the speed Alexander grew up, but as Markpud said, you can always blame it on Klingon physiology. Niaomi Wildman grew up quickly too and thats what they said. The real reason is that the laws governing the use of child actors heavily restrict the time they can work, so it is easier if they grow up quick. Alexander, one mixed up kid! I just don't know how he grew up so normal -- first he doesn't have contact with his father, then he sees his mother murdered, his father ignores him. He is 1/4 Klingon, but lives with strange Human Russian/Jewish grandparents (who for some reason have New York American accents even though they have mostly lived on another planet called Gault). Made to go to school with Human kids, but when it doesn't work out, sent to boarding school with Klingon clerics as teachers. He eventually runs away and joins the Klingon Navy, only to have his father assigned to the same ship. I think that Deanna Troi was more interested in Alexander than Worf, she could have held a whole psychology conference about him alone! PS: meant to say 1/4 Human.

2nd October 2001, 01:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	He certainly did have his problems to cope with as he grew up.... I mean his father drank prune juice.... eeeeeeeee

2nd October 2001, 10:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Aing-Tii gimboid goddess! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West coast of USA Posts: 170	I thought he was 1/4 human and 3/4 Klingon. He did have a tough time growing up. I felt sorry for him. I always liked him though. He was such a sweetheart with a very tender heart. I thought that combination of being Klingon but with a gentle heart/spirit was terrific and wish they had developed that more. I loved the eppy in TNG with Mrs. Troi and Alexander where she sort of takes him under her wing as she prepares to marry a very UN-Troi-like man. Now, she would have been an excellent choice to raise Alexander. Bet he would have turned out pretty cool under Lwaxana's tutelage!!! Edited to add that I just loved that Worf drinks prune juice. "A warrior's drink!" And I thought it was great they made Alexander sort of clumsy. I think it fits his character and his experiences well. :star::star::star::star::star:

3rd October 2001, 07:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	ow my word... dave made a mistake... he he he

3rd October 2001, 08:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	i loved the episode when worf was gonna die and he asked troi to become his son guardian... sad but a funny episode

4th October 2001, 12:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
Aing-Tii gimboid goddess! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: West coast of USA Posts: 170	Yeah, that mudbath scene was great!:lol: Worf's drollery was much in evidence. He's the perfect straight man, the jokes just bounce right off him. I forget what year of TNG that Alexander was introduced. Seems like Worf and Alexander's mom (name? senility strikes again) created Alexander in the first season. So that would put Alex in S3 or S4. I think that makes him even younger than I thought! Gotta go do my math now. (Be back with the answer in a year or so :lol:!) :star::star::star: