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3rd September 2001, 07:50 PM
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| Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chicago, IL
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|  SG1 please leave the Stargate movie alone!! SPOILERS FOR STARGATE THE MOVIE AND SEASON 3 OF SG1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . After leaving the theater the first time seeing Stargate, I felt satisfied about the ending. Daniel decided to stay behind with his wife Sha're. Jack moved passed his depression. Skaara became a type of leader with his people at the Abydos. Kawalsky (Jack's Friend) safely returned home. (usually what happens is the main character's friend dies in this type of movie) THE END...I don't think so.... First Daniel's wife dies and he is brought back to a world that wasn't kind to him in the first place. Skaara becomes a host. Kawalsky dies!! ( I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DID THAT) Then what is worst, the very thing that made Daniel the hero of the movie, discovered the seventh symbol, and was the FIRST to active the Stargate, ending up that the Stargate was already active in the 60's. Which made no sense at all. Look I like SG1 and the character development (that Star Trek lacked of) over the past four years (in the US). But when it comes to the past and the Stargate Movie. DON'T RUIN THE MOVIE! Thank you... Don't take this as an insult, from where I come from, Opinions are welcome. |
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4th September 2001, 08:42 AM
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| stargate junkie Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Liverpool, England
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| Well I thought the ending to the movie was pretty crappy actually. but I agree about skaara, he should have died, he is sooooooo annoying, y does nobody c that? oh, leave sg1 alone, what'd it ever do to u! |
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4th September 2001, 10:59 AM
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4th September 2001, 11:05 AM
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| Mr. Flibble is very cross  Join Date: May 2001 Location: United Kingdom
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4th September 2001, 12:27 PM
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| Expert Member  Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: England, S.E.
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| RDA is better then Russel any day. OK, that might because I just don't like Kurt Russel. Movie: Frankly I prefer COTG to this. If they didn't get Daniel off Abydos somehow, then the show would be without one of its more vital characters. But I agree they didn't need to wreck his life quite so entirly. Skaara: Haven't seen him past 'Serpents Lair' after Klorel almost killed Daniel. But Jack shot him too much. Has it EVER occured them to just pull the Goa'uld AWAY from the victim, rather then shooting them? Series: Has good moments and bad. |
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4th September 2001, 12:47 PM
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| "happy oestrogen bubble"  Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Tau'ri. Last time I checked.
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| i soo agree: RDA is soooooooooooo much finer than russel i used to have to think about the dannys, but, i like shanks now!! but why don't you like skaara? i do!! the end of the movie was too happy clappy, that doesn't happen in real life, people die!  :evil: :dead: |
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4th September 2001, 02:36 PM
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| Space Monkey!  Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: South coast of the UK
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| I must say like some of the others I really didn't like the movie at all....when I heard that there would be a series I thought that I would not like it and it would be just like the movie. But I gave it a chance and watch COTG and I was hooked and still am to this day.So I would have to say I like the series but thats just my view:rolly2: |
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4th September 2001, 02:49 PM
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| There can be only one!!  Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia
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| Re: SG1 please leave the Stargate movie alone!! Quote:
okay - i agree that killing Kawalsky was a bad move -- but making Skaa'ra and Shau're hosts was plot development (not necessarily the best, but it was) -- and it gave SG-1 reason to continue going through the gate until they found other reasons to do so --- i don't think they needed to kill Daniel's wife - unless they have other 'romantic' plans for the man somewhere -- (don't get started there), and Skaa'ra -- well -- i won't spoil what happens later ----- but - about Daniel figuring out the 7th symbol -- he's still the hero and he still did that -- no one even remotely related to the Stargate project in the 90's even knew that anyone had activated the gate in 1945 (that's when Ernest went through) - by the time General West and company got around to playing w/ the Gate again - pretty much everyone involved w/ the project from the 40's was dead -- the only one left was Catherine and SG-1 got around this by saying that she was never told they sent anyone through -- so Daniel is still the 'hero' -- he found the 7th symbol and figured out the dialing sequence b/c no one had any info on the 'original' project --- i wanna know how the movie got around the 70 years the US knew about the stargate and didn't do anything with it -- they wanted us to believe that they found the thing in the 20's and no one thought to try to figure it out for 70 years? granted, they wouldn't have had the technology to make it work in the 20's and 30's, but we could have been told about their research -- the other thing that bothers me --- in 1945 Ernest went to that planet -- but Major Carter (Capt at the time) said that the Pentagon-types had tried 'hundreds of permutations' after Daniel and co had gone through and couldn't get the gate to work again - so - in 50 years did the universe 'expand' so much that those coordinates didn't work anymore, or did the Pentagon just 'miss' that set of coordinates?? (and excuse my physics ignorance, it wasn't one of my better subjects) | |
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4th September 2001, 04:08 PM
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| CO, RDA's Leather Brigade  Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: South Carolina
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| Re: Re: SG1 please leave the Stargate movie alone!! Quote:
From a TV series POV, the Torment of Tantilus was a cool stroke of writing to explain what did happen in those 70 years. To put it into the Stargate movie would have been boring, it would have slowed the plot so much you would have hated it and would have wondered why they spent time telling you about it. Stargate was wholly an action movie. Plot moves fast or not at all. Reason most people redem the movie with it's spotty characters is that all sorts of cool stuff happens fast. However, devote a episode to the idea that the US military dropped the ball yet again and then make visiting the destination a vital aspect to getting in contact with four races of aliens: brilliant! | |
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4th September 2001, 05:04 PM
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| SG1 shouldn't have a complicated and longing story behind it. ------- PLOT OF SG1: We discovered the Stargate in 1996 and been exploring the galaxy ever since. END OF PLOT That is it!! Why does every Sci-fi show have to have a long prequel to it? |
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4th September 2001, 05:21 PM
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| There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia
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just out of curiosity - why not? Quote:
okay - 1st - the plot point is slightly incorrect -- per the movie -the Stargate was discovered 1920-ish in Giza - not 1996 - just in 1996 Catherine Langford got the project going again - probably b/c it too her years to convince the pentagon that it was a good idea -- then she found Daniel - who had the most lucrative (per his field of study) ideas about the pyramids - and brought him in to solve the 'riddle' that was the Stargate -- so - the Stargate had still been sitting around for 70 years and the tv series PTB probably figured there were some fans who were scratching their heads and asking - "hey, what happened to that 70 year stretch of time that they had the thing, but didn't do anything with it" the Stargate had backstory from the movie - the backstory was expanded upon by the tv series -- why? b/c they need stuff to work with -- if every episode is just about SG-1 tramping through the gate, screwing something up, then fixing it again, the show's gonna get really boring and ppl will stop watching --- so, they toss in backstory pieces and character enhancement bits that can't be shown in movies (so, Cyn - yeah, i agree w/ ya here - i was doing my bit as devil's advocate yet one more time!  )so - b/c the Stargate was discovered in 1920, per the movie - it already had a long backstory -- nothing the series PTB could do about that -- | ||
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5th September 2001, 08:39 PM
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The first season was great but now it's getting a little bit boring. (Expect for Wormhole extreme) I watched the series because of the character development that Star Trek lacked. But now that's even wearing thin. No wonder the 6th will be the last for RDA! They are running out of ideas! | |
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5th September 2001, 09:24 PM
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| There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia
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| well - Stargate isn't the first movie to become a series -- and definitely not the first to be 'screwed' up by the series -- the best case? Highlander -- sooooo many of the 'rules' and established canon points were twisted or ignored when the series was made -- some of that has to do w/ artistic license, some of it is legal -- the series has to have permission to use the stuff from the movie -- it's the same when they make movies from books -- you have to realize there will always be creative differences -- and the series can't always be exactly like the movie i haven't seen but 5 eps from season 5, so won't comment on the direction it's gone -- but, so far, through all the eps i've seen, there is only one that i absolutely hate, and only a handful that i won't watch but once in a blue-moon -- the writing is generally very good for this series and the acting is above par most of the time -- i like the series -- these last seasons may be the ultimate test of its creativity and such b/c if the writers are running low on fuel for the show, then ratings will drop and the show will end -- personally - i'd much rather see Stargate go out in a 'blaze of glory' than in a drivelling, snivelling puddle of crap like Highlander did --- |
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