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markpud · 3rd August 2001, 10:54 AM

have to say i'm very impressed at the arguements being made in this thread folks!

My 2cents.. There are a lot of similarities between thir characters as you have shown, both seem to be motivated by a desire to put right the wrongs of their past..

Does this make them the same?? Angel is tortured by the memories of the countless brutal acts performed by Angelus "with a song in his heart", and now strives to be a force for good, guided by TPTB. For Giles, the knowledge that he did certain questionable things in his youth may have motivated his decision to join the watchers, but I dont think it affects him on a daily basis like it does with Angel. Of course it came back to haunt him when Eyghon came to Sunnydale..
But on the whole, Giles' motivation has been different to Angels for that reason..

mr.pointy · 3rd August 2001, 08:53 PM

I agree wit u Mark. Very interesting arguements!

But i fink in the end there are too many holes in the similiarities between Angel and Giles. They are two different people who have and will lead two different paths...

Maria8475 · 4th August 2001, 03:42 PM

thank you Markpud and Mr P.

Mr P, care to elaborate on some of these holes??

mr.pointy · 4th August 2001, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Maria8475
thank you Markpud and Mr P.

Mr P, care to elaborate on some of these holes??

Er...no. U have elaborated enuf 4 me. How do u fink i came 2 this conclusion. I sw both arguements and sided with your view

obcooke · 4th August 2001, 05:41 PM

<markpud: There are a lot of similarities between thir characters as you have shown...>

I'll settle for that, for the time being.

Vampyre · 10th August 2001, 08:50 PM

Hi guys, love the debate. Over in the season 6 forum we're discussing Willow being the big bad (someone read it somewhere I think). That remark about Willow being gay...she's turned gay. So would it make sense for her to turn bad?

Vampyre.

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3rd August 2001, 10:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
markpud Retired super-mod-erator! Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 4,524	have to say i'm very impressed at the arguements being made in this thread folks! My 2cents.. There are a lot of similarities between thir characters as you have shown, both seem to be motivated by a desire to put right the wrongs of their past.. Does this make them the same?? Angel is tortured by the memories of the countless brutal acts performed by Angelus "with a song in his heart", and now strives to be a force for good, guided by TPTB. For Giles, the knowledge that he did certain questionable things in his youth may have motivated his decision to join the watchers, but I dont think it affects him on a daily basis like it does with Angel. Of course it came back to haunt him when Eyghon came to Sunnydale.. But on the whole, Giles' motivation has been different to Angels for that reason..

3rd August 2001, 08:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
mr.pointy Pray 2 da god Joss Whedon Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale, Calafornia Posts: 1,322	I agree wit u Mark. Very interesting arguements! But i fink in the end there are too many holes in the similiarities between Angel and Giles. They are two different people who have and will lead two different paths...

4th August 2001, 03:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
Maria8475 It goes on..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,688	thank you Markpud and Mr P. Mr P, care to elaborate on some of these holes??

4th August 2001, 05:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	<markpud: There are a lot of similarities between thir characters as you have shown...> I'll settle for that, for the time being.

10th August 2001, 08:50 PM	#21 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,357	Hi guys, love the debate. Over in the season 6 forum we're discussing Willow being the big bad (someone read it somewhere I think). That remark about Willow being gay...she's turned gay. So would it make sense for her to turn bad? Vampyre.