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Texane · 18th July 2001, 11:18 PM

Cinescape reports:

By: T.K. MERCHANT
Stargate SG-1: The Series So Far

Season Five of the venerable sci-fi series kicks into gear on Showtime

Okay, folks – for those of you who are unfamiliar with the popular sci-fi series, think of this this article as your STARGATE: SG-1 primer course. But be warned – the piece will be followed by a short quiz.

STARGATE: SG-1 is Showtime pay cable TV’s continuation of the feature film from Centropolis Entertainment [though Centropolis has had no involvement with the development of the series]. Viewers of the movie will remember that the discovery of a strange portal in 1928 Giza, Egypt, eventually led to present-day use of the device. A military team, headed by Capt. Jack O’Neill (Kurt Russell in the film, Richard Dean Anderson in the TV show) and civilian linguist/archeologist Dr. Daniel Jackson (James Spader in the original, Michael Shanks on the series), goes through the "stargate" portal and finds itself on the planet Abydos.

Abydos bears a striking resemblance to ancient Egypt because, as it turns out, its human inhabitants were actually abducted from that era and placed on the planet to serve the Goa’uld. The Goa’uld are a parasitic, but techno-savvy species that have tried to ensure a steady stream of host bodies, as well as general slave labor, by scattering human beings far and wide throughout the cosmos.

Once a Goa’uld has taken up permanent residence in a human body, it is extremely difficult to remove without killing the host. The Goa’uld symbiont – think of a worst-case scenario Trill from DEEP SPACE NINE – completely overpowers the host’s prior personality and is generally dictatorial and imperious, with ambitions of galactic domination. Prior to this, the Goa’uld larvae incubate in temporary human hosts, a warrior caste called the Jaffa. The Jaffa can survive the exit of a mature Goa’uld, but can’t live long without a resident

One of the SG-1 team, Teal’c (Christopher Judge), is a Jaffa and he harbors a childlike fascination with the fact that the Goa’uld have never dominated the human home world. You see, Teal’c was formerly a feared Serpent Guard (soldiers who serve the Goa’uld wearing armor with elaborate cobra-like helmets) and is responsible for the kidnap and Goa’uld implanting of Jackson’s Abydos-born wife. However, when Teal’c realized there was an alternative to Goa’uld rule, he turned on his fellow Serpent Guards at a crucial moment and has become a trusted and valued member of the SG-1 team: even Daniel has forgiven him. Got all that?

In the original STARGATE movie, Jack O’Neill and Co. succeeded in destroying the chief local alien, Ra. In the series, however, Daniel discovers the Goa’uld map room, containing charts indicating various planets where humans have been seeded. Various Stargate – or ‘SG’ – teams are sent through the portal to find some means of defending Earth from the still-menacing Goa’uld and to make contact with the human colonies, most of whom have no idea that their ancestors came from Earth.

O’Neill’s team is the first string, hence the appellation ‘SG-1.’ Besides Col. O’Neill, SG-1 consists of the aforementioned Teal’c, the military scientist Maj./Dr. Samantha ‘Sam’ Carter (Amanda Tapping) and civilian team member Daniel, the resident archaeologist. The paternal, but no-nonsense, Gen. Hammond (Don S. Davis) supervises from the secret SGC facility, buried deep beneath a

STARGATE has begun its fifth season, and viewers are pyramid-deep in ongoing plot complications. Goa’uld overlord Apophis (Peter Williams), who has proved as hard to kill as Wile E. Coyote, has conquered many of his fellow system lords and is busy coordinating the remaining Goa’uld troops for another tilt at taking over the universe and blowing Earth all to heck.

However, over the past few seasons Earth has discovered that it may have some alien allies throughout the universe (some more reliable than others). The Asgard (who look like Area 51 E.T.’s) are well-disposed and highly technologically advanced, but have their own problems, as their galaxy is being overrun by spider-like, mechanical, frantically reproducing Replicators. The Tolan are snobs who won’t share their technology and the Nox are powerful, fairylike beings who don’t like to take sides.

Then there are the Tok’ra – an offshoot of the Goa’uld. The Tok’ra are dedicated to overthrowing the Goa’uld, who they view with the particular loathing that can only be felt toward a relative who has disgraced the family name. Unlike the Goa’uld, a Tok’ra host and symbiont each retain their individual personalities within the shared body. Carter’s father, Jacob (recurring cast member Carmen Argenziano), agreed to become a host to the wise and powerful Tok’ra Salmac in exchange for having his terminal cancer cured – and the chance to save the universe, of course. Meanwhile, Daniel’s wife, Shar’re, gave birth to the son of Apophis, a child that contains all the knowledge of the Goa’uld. Shar’re is now dead (Teal’c had to kill her when the Goa’uld inside Shar’re was about to murder Daniel), but the child is safely hidden away with friendly (albeit mysterious).

Although SG-1 has a commendably complex arc that trusts the audience to pay attention, its chief charm may be the snarky, deadpan dialogue that is a particular trademark of O’Neill. (It’s probably no accident that Anderson, who is one of the show’s executive producers as well as its star, gets a lot of good lines.) The series also has the grace to acknowledge its own areas of credibility-stretching – one episode had the SG-1 team defending their funding to a government committee that wanted to know why, if the Goa’uld were so dangerous, they were defeated so consistently by just four people.

When we last saw SG-1 at the end of Season Four, things looked problematic as usual. Jack, Daniel, Sam and Jacob/Salmac had been blown 1,000,000 light years from home by a supernova and Teal’c is missing/possibly dead.

In the Season 5 opener “Enemies,” scripted by Robert C. Cooper and directed by Martin Wood, we find that Teal’c is in the clutches of Apophis, whose mothership has also been whisked to this corner of the universe. Apophis would like to blast the SG team to bits, but he’s got Replicator problems. However, Apophis has managed to brainwash Teal’c into believing he’s once again Apophis’ loyal servant.

The rest of SG-1 manage to rescue Teal’c and make their way back to Earth’s galaxy, while Apophis is finally destroyed by the Replicators (apparently – Apophis has so far proved one hard-to-kill baddie). However, there’s one lingering problem – Teal’c is still firmly convinced he’s on Apophis’ team. Stay tuned.

Not bad, huh?

jsc · 19th July 2001, 02:14 AM

Thanks for the update, Texane!
I am glad someone besides Showtime is promoting and writing good articles about Stargate SG-1! Showtime does miminal promotion! So it is always good to see someone saying how good the show is! And Season 5 thas been the best so far! LovedThreshold! So far, my favorite episode of the Series!

Love that the Queen of the Universe is quoting the Queen of Soul!

imported_Sandman · 19th July 2001, 04:11 AM

It really irks me on how very little Showtime promotes Stargate SG-1. it seems like every other time i flip the channel there they have an ad for one show or another. but if they show anything about sg-1 it's like a five second blurb that could be a for any episode--"sg-1 travel to a distant planet to save a race of peoples" or "Colonel o'Neill leads his team through the stargate" or something just as incredibly duh! same for the tv guides.

Anni · 19th July 2001, 10:02 AM

Well I suppose to be fair Showtime are probably limited as to the amount of real advertising they can fit in... advertising time costs money I imagine.

But in reality, isn't that exactly how Stargate sometimes comes over in Episodes? As though it's yet another 'SG1 kicks ass', or 'let's have an in depth look at everyone's home and personal lives' and even 'let's have lots of SG1 character development and interplay, and to hell with the concept that there are a bunch of nasty aliens out there who are hellbent on conquering the galaxy by foul means rather than fair'?

Of course, as I have said so many times...... who could be afraid of a bunch of aliens who have been turned by the writers/producers of the show into a flamboyant bunch of idiots who are only fit to go and do pantomime at the Hippodrome in London?

So really, in a way, the show does come over as a Space Opera rather than an intelligent show which explores the ideas of aliens and our own rather nebulous ancient history and origins.

I think that because of that fact, any advertising is going to be along the lines of.......

"Jack O'Neill leads his courageous team through the Stargate again......" blah, blah, blah.

Still I do keep watching in hopes that they will surprise me!

Highlander II · 19th July 2001, 11:34 AM

my only thing is - every friday night b4 Stargate comes on, there is some lame commercial for something 'really' unintelligent like The Chris Isaak Show (which i watched ONE time b/c Peter Wingfield was on!) and the commercial tells the viewer something about what's gonna happen -- then the SG-1 blurbs (even the ones at the end of the ep) are just lame -- Showtime COULD play it up more -- isn't SG-1 one of the most popular sci-fi shows on right now??? why don't they 'work' that popularity? same w/ the Fox networks (and whoever else runs the show in syndication) - use the programs current popularity to "boost" the show, the ratings, the network -- the 'promotion' people aren't using this show to it's full potential (from a purely capitalistic standpoint) --

Stargate gets bumped quite frequently for ball games and stupid movies that no one watches -- (at least on my local Fox affiliate) - when they could give the show a decent time slot (1700 on Sat is NOT a decent time slot - who the heck is home then??) and attract a lot more viewers --- and then, of course, promote the hell out of the show! it's popular, people watch it! show some snappy commercials and get other people to watch it ---- Fox still runs X-files, right? why not put Stargate on right before X-Files? (in my area that would make it 2000 hrs on Sunday evening - i think X-Files still holds the 2100 time slot here - don't watch, so don't know)

And yes, Stargate deals a little more with the personal lives of the characters - but, remember, SG-1 doesn't take place 400 years in the future - it takes place today -- so, an argument can be made that they are showing the 'people' who work at the SGC - tho, they could 'involve' some of the other teams and members of the SGC a little more than they do -- and they could explore some of the aliens a little more indepth --- and make the Goa'uld look a little more 'dangerous' than they appear now - oh - and they can just get the heck rid of Apophis - it's becoming annoying that he keeps coming back -- at least Murdoc on MacGyver was an interesting character -- Apophis has no depth - he just wants to rule the universe - um - so do the other System Lords and several other races of aliens -- or something - so, either give the guy some depth, or get rid of him, b/c if SG-1 has to kill the bastard one more time - i think *I'm* gonna scream.

(okay, can't believe i just wrote all that in about 20 minutes - but i'm done now, i think)

H2

Anni · 19th July 2001, 01:51 PM

LOL

Highlander II · 19th July 2001, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by Anni
LOL

anni - are you laughing at me?????

Sci-Fi16 · 19th July 2001, 02:37 PM

Hmmm, 1700 on Saturday? Here, (UK) it was 1700 on a Monday. It was series 2 orginally begun in late August. This was stopped in October, and it didn't come back until the New Year. Now that one's over with, we have to wait until August again for S3.
I could at least depend on the channel in question for reliable/ish ER times. Anyone in the UK see the series 7 ER finale last night on Channel 4? THAT WAS BRILLIANT.

Texane · 19th July 2001, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jsc
Love that the Queen of the Universe is quoting the Queen of Soul!

Well, If you're going to quote, you might as well quote the best! And Aretha has no competition in my book.

Texane · 19th July 2001, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sandman
It really irks me on how very little Showtime promotes Stargate SG-1. it seems like every other time i flip the channel there they have an ad for one show or another. but if they show anything about sg-1 it's like a five second blurb that could be a for any episode--"sg-1 travel to a distant planet to save a race of peoples" or "Colonel o'Neill leads his team through the stargate" or something just as incredibly duh! same for the tv guides.

AGREED!!! :evil:

And, on top of that, they misrepresent what is going to happen in the epy! I HATE THAT!!!!! :dead:

Texane · 19th July 2001, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Anni
Still I do keep watching in hopes that they will surprise me!

You probably need to go to the (many) soft-porn shows Showtime promotes for the surprise . . .

Anni · 19th July 2001, 03:54 PM

Well...... um..... they don't have Showtime in the UK I'm afraid. the nearest we could probably get is Channel 4.....

Porn, soft or otherwise doesn't actually hold any interest or indeed surprises for me........

But I rather hope that the writers and producers of Stargate might surprise me.

Highlander II · 19th July 2001, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anni
Well...... um..... they don't have Showtime in the UK I'm afraid. the nearest we could probably get is Channel 4.....

Porn, soft or otherwise doesn't actually hold any interest or indeed surprises for me........

But I rather hope that the writers and producers of Stargate might surprise me.

well -- should we start a top ten list of things that we would NEVER see on Stargate? hmm -- let's start w/ -- a "truly" dead Apophis --- somehow i get the feeling he is NEVER gonna die - ugh --- they couldn't leave the 'recurring' nemesis back in MacGyver could they??? Of course - Murdoc was MUCH more inventive -------- hehehe (anyone want me to list the eps that Murdoc was in? i'm good at that

)

CynVision · 19th July 2001, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Texane

You probably need to go to the (many) soft-porn shows Showtime promotes for the surprise . . .

I was a bit surprised the other day when I watched Hathor on a whim. I watched really closely for once, no knitting and listening. The closest I think SG-1 got to being kinky that season was after O'Neill was healed from being a Jaffa and Sam is checking him. Tight shot on pants line. mmmm. :naughty: It probably didn't make it inot the syndicated edition. So be glad Showtime has a bit more racy side...

Or, was my mind in the gutter? I guess I wanted to be in Jack's pants anyhow. :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

Highlander II · 19th July 2001, 05:36 PM

of course - there is always the gratuitous, Jack 'butt-shot' in "The Fifth Race" -- if you don't know where it is, i'll let you watch and find out!

oh - and if you ever saw the 1st ep on Showtime -- it has a nude scene -- the scene where Shau're gets the Ammonet symbiote

hmmmmmm --- trying to think of others --------

oh - and i'm pretty sure that shot from "Hathor" made it into syndication -- b/c it's *really* a shot of his abs -- his pants just happen to be really close by!! <hehe>

18th July 2001, 11:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Texane Frelling Wicked Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Texas (of course!) Posts: 3,877	Good Report on Stargate Series Cinescape reports: By: T.K. MERCHANT Stargate SG-1: The Series So Far Season Five of the venerable sci-fi series kicks into gear on Showtime Okay, folks – for those of you who are unfamiliar with the popular sci-fi series, think of this this article as your STARGATE: SG-1 primer course. But be warned – the piece will be followed by a short quiz. STARGATE: SG-1 is Showtime pay cable TV’s continuation of the feature film from Centropolis Entertainment [though Centropolis has had no involvement with the development of the series]. Viewers of the movie will remember that the discovery of a strange portal in 1928 Giza, Egypt, eventually led to present-day use of the device. A military team, headed by Capt. Jack O’Neill (Kurt Russell in the film, Richard Dean Anderson in the TV show) and civilian linguist/archeologist Dr. Daniel Jackson (James Spader in the original, Michael Shanks on the series), goes through the "stargate" portal and finds itself on the planet Abydos. Abydos bears a striking resemblance to ancient Egypt because, as it turns out, its human inhabitants were actually abducted from that era and placed on the planet to serve the Goa’uld. The Goa’uld are a parasitic, but techno-savvy species that have tried to ensure a steady stream of host bodies, as well as general slave labor, by scattering human beings far and wide throughout the cosmos. Once a Goa’uld has taken up permanent residence in a human body, it is extremely difficult to remove without killing the host. The Goa’uld symbiont – think of a worst-case scenario Trill from DEEP SPACE NINE – completely overpowers the host’s prior personality and is generally dictatorial and imperious, with ambitions of galactic domination. Prior to this, the Goa’uld larvae incubate in temporary human hosts, a warrior caste called the Jaffa. The Jaffa can survive the exit of a mature Goa’uld, but can’t live long without a resident One of the SG-1 team, Teal’c (Christopher Judge), is a Jaffa and he harbors a childlike fascination with the fact that the Goa’uld have never dominated the human home world. You see, Teal’c was formerly a feared Serpent Guard (soldiers who serve the Goa’uld wearing armor with elaborate cobra-like helmets) and is responsible for the kidnap and Goa’uld implanting of Jackson’s Abydos-born wife. However, when Teal’c realized there was an alternative to Goa’uld rule, he turned on his fellow Serpent Guards at a crucial moment and has become a trusted and valued member of the SG-1 team: even Daniel has forgiven him. Got all that? In the original STARGATE movie, Jack O’Neill and Co. succeeded in destroying the chief local alien, Ra. In the series, however, Daniel discovers the Goa’uld map room, containing charts indicating various planets where humans have been seeded. Various Stargate – or ‘SG’ – teams are sent through the portal to find some means of defending Earth from the still-menacing Goa’uld and to make contact with the human colonies, most of whom have no idea that their ancestors came from Earth. O’Neill’s team is the first string, hence the appellation ‘SG-1.’ Besides Col. O’Neill, SG-1 consists of the aforementioned Teal’c, the military scientist Maj./Dr. Samantha ‘Sam’ Carter (Amanda Tapping) and civilian team member Daniel, the resident archaeologist. The paternal, but no-nonsense, Gen. Hammond (Don S. Davis) supervises from the secret SGC facility, buried deep beneath a STARGATE has begun its fifth season, and viewers are pyramid-deep in ongoing plot complications. Goa’uld overlord Apophis (Peter Williams), who has proved as hard to kill as Wile E. Coyote, has conquered many of his fellow system lords and is busy coordinating the remaining Goa’uld troops for another tilt at taking over the universe and blowing Earth all to heck. However, over the past few seasons Earth has discovered that it may have some alien allies throughout the universe (some more reliable than others). The Asgard (who look like Area 51 E.T.’s) are well-disposed and highly technologically advanced, but have their own problems, as their galaxy is being overrun by spider-like, mechanical, frantically reproducing Replicators. The Tolan are snobs who won’t share their technology and the Nox are powerful, fairylike beings who don’t like to take sides. Then there are the Tok’ra – an offshoot of the Goa’uld. The Tok’ra are dedicated to overthrowing the Goa’uld, who they view with the particular loathing that can only be felt toward a relative who has disgraced the family name. Unlike the Goa’uld, a Tok’ra host and symbiont each retain their individual personalities within the shared body. Carter’s father, Jacob (recurring cast member Carmen Argenziano), agreed to become a host to the wise and powerful Tok’ra Salmac in exchange for having his terminal cancer cured – and the chance to save the universe, of course. Meanwhile, Daniel’s wife, Shar’re, gave birth to the son of Apophis, a child that contains all the knowledge of the Goa’uld. Shar’re is now dead (Teal’c had to kill her when the Goa’uld inside Shar’re was about to murder Daniel), but the child is safely hidden away with friendly (albeit mysterious). Although SG-1 has a commendably complex arc that trusts the audience to pay attention, its chief charm may be the snarky, deadpan dialogue that is a particular trademark of O’Neill. (It’s probably no accident that Anderson, who is one of the show’s executive producers as well as its star, gets a lot of good lines.) The series also has the grace to acknowledge its own areas of credibility-stretching – one episode had the SG-1 team defending their funding to a government committee that wanted to know why, if the Goa’uld were so dangerous, they were defeated so consistently by just four people. When we last saw SG-1 at the end of Season Four, things looked problematic as usual. Jack, Daniel, Sam and Jacob/Salmac had been blown 1,000,000 light years from home by a supernova and Teal’c is missing/possibly dead. In the Season 5 opener “Enemies,” scripted by Robert C. Cooper and directed by Martin Wood, we find that Teal’c is in the clutches of Apophis, whose mothership has also been whisked to this corner of the universe. Apophis would like to blast the SG team to bits, but he’s got Replicator problems. However, Apophis has managed to brainwash Teal’c into believing he’s once again Apophis’ loyal servant. The rest of SG-1 manage to rescue Teal’c and make their way back to Earth’s galaxy, while Apophis is finally destroyed by the Replicators (apparently – Apophis has so far proved one hard-to-kill baddie). However, there’s one lingering problem – Teal’c is still firmly convinced he’s on Apophis’ team. Stay tuned. Not bad, huh?

19th July 2001, 02:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
jsc God Like Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Los Angeles, California,U.S.A. Posts: 4,352	Thanks for the update, Texane! I am glad someone besides Showtime is promoting and writing good articles about Stargate SG-1! Showtime does miminal promotion! So it is always good to see someone saying how good the show is! And Season 5 thas been the best so far! LovedThreshold! So far, my favorite episode of the Series! Love that the Queen of the Universe is quoting the Queen of Soul!

19th July 2001, 04:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
imported_Sandman confused Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 1,222	It really irks me on how very little Showtime promotes Stargate SG-1. it seems like every other time i flip the channel there they have an ad for one show or another. but if they show anything about sg-1 it's like a five second blurb that could be a for any episode--"sg-1 travel to a distant planet to save a race of peoples" or "Colonel o'Neill leads his team through the stargate" or something just as incredibly duh! same for the tv guides.

19th July 2001, 10:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Anni Chronos' Love Slave Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Third star on the left and straight on till morning! Posts: 1,371	Well I suppose to be fair Showtime are probably limited as to the amount of real advertising they can fit in... advertising time costs money I imagine. But in reality, isn't that exactly how Stargate sometimes comes over in Episodes? As though it's yet another 'SG1 kicks ass', or 'let's have an in depth look at everyone's home and personal lives' and even 'let's have lots of SG1 character development and interplay, and to hell with the concept that there are a bunch of nasty aliens out there who are hellbent on conquering the galaxy by foul means rather than fair'? Of course, as I have said so many times...... who could be afraid of a bunch of aliens who have been turned by the writers/producers of the show into a flamboyant bunch of idiots who are only fit to go and do pantomime at the Hippodrome in London? So really, in a way, the show does come over as a Space Opera rather than an intelligent show which explores the ideas of aliens and our own rather nebulous ancient history and origins. I think that because of that fact, any advertising is going to be along the lines of....... "Jack O'Neill leads his courageous team through the Stargate again......" blah, blah, blah. Still I do keep watching in hopes that they will surprise me!

19th July 2001, 11:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	my only thing is - every friday night b4 Stargate comes on, there is some lame commercial for something 'really' unintelligent like The Chris Isaak Show (which i watched ONE time b/c Peter Wingfield was on!) and the commercial tells the viewer something about what's gonna happen -- then the SG-1 blurbs (even the ones at the end of the ep) are just lame -- Showtime COULD play it up more -- isn't SG-1 one of the most popular sci-fi shows on right now??? why don't they 'work' that popularity? same w/ the Fox networks (and whoever else runs the show in syndication) - use the programs current popularity to "boost" the show, the ratings, the network -- the 'promotion' people aren't using this show to it's full potential (from a purely capitalistic standpoint) -- Stargate gets bumped quite frequently for ball games and stupid movies that no one watches -- (at least on my local Fox affiliate) - when they could give the show a decent time slot (1700 on Sat is NOT a decent time slot - who the heck is home then??) and attract a lot more viewers --- and then, of course, promote the hell out of the show! it's popular, people watch it! show some snappy commercials and get other people to watch it ---- Fox still runs X-files, right? why not put Stargate on right before X-Files? (in my area that would make it 2000 hrs on Sunday evening - i think X-Files still holds the 2100 time slot here - don't watch, so don't know) And yes, Stargate deals a little more with the personal lives of the characters - but, remember, SG-1 doesn't take place 400 years in the future - it takes place today -- so, an argument can be made that they are showing the 'people' who work at the SGC - tho, they could 'involve' some of the other teams and members of the SGC a little more than they do -- and they could explore some of the aliens a little more indepth --- and make the Goa'uld look a little more 'dangerous' than they appear now - oh - and they can just get the heck rid of Apophis - it's becoming annoying that he keeps coming back -- at least Murdoc on MacGyver was an interesting character -- Apophis has no depth - he just wants to rule the universe - um - so do the other System Lords and several other races of aliens -- or something - so, either give the guy some depth, or get rid of him, b/c if SG-1 has to kill the bastard one more time - i think I'm gonna scream. (okay, can't believe i just wrote all that in about 20 minutes - but i'm done now, i think) H2

19th July 2001, 01:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anni Chronos' Love Slave Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Third star on the left and straight on till morning! Posts: 1,371	LOL

19th July 2001, 02:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sci-Fi16 Expert Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: England, S.E. Posts: 564	Hmmm, 1700 on Saturday? Here, (UK) it was 1700 on a Monday. It was series 2 orginally begun in late August. This was stopped in October, and it didn't come back until the New Year. Now that one's over with, we have to wait until August again for S3. I could at least depend on the channel in question for reliable/ish ER times. Anyone in the UK see the series 7 ER finale last night on Channel 4? THAT WAS BRILLIANT.

19th July 2001, 03:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
Anni Chronos' Love Slave Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Third star on the left and straight on till morning! Posts: 1,371	Well...... um..... they don't have Showtime in the UK I'm afraid. the nearest we could probably get is Channel 4..... Porn, soft or otherwise doesn't actually hold any interest or indeed surprises for me........ But I rather hope that the writers and producers of Stargate might surprise me.

19th July 2001, 05:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	of course - there is always the gratuitous, Jack 'butt-shot' in "The Fifth Race" -- if you don't know where it is, i'll let you watch and find out! oh - and if you ever saw the 1st ep on Showtime -- it has a nude scene -- the scene where Shau're gets the Ammonet symbiote hmmmmmm --- trying to think of others -------- oh - and i'm pretty sure that shot from "Hathor" made it into syndication -- b/c it's really a shot of his abs -- his pants just happen to be really close by!! <hehe>