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Highlander II · 30th October 2001, 04:39 PM

ST:Grandparents!
that's funny!

tho it would be interesting for some 'ancestors' to show up - not too many, or it becomes terribly cliche ---

but Spock's ancestors would be cool! (i LOVE Spock!)

and we could have a McCoy show up -- wouldn't be our beloved DeForrest Kelley, but could still be a relative -- Sulu's daughter was in ST:Generations --

Dave · 31st January 2002, 01:23 PM

I just found this:

BRING BACK KIRK CAMPAIGN TO BE FEATURED ON POPULAR BRITISH MORNING SHOW.

The Bring Back Kirk campaign, one of the largest current Trek fan movements,
will be appearing on the British morning show The Big Breakfast. Jason
Turner, the UK Official, will be representing the campaign in a competition
on the show on January 31, 2002. The Big Breakfast is one of three morning
shows on British television, with a potential audience of 1-2 million people,
or approximately the same number that tuned in to see the Enterprise episode
Broken Bow when it premiered in the UK a few weeks ago.

On the show, Turner will compete in a series of games for the patronage of
Richard Bacon, one of the hosts of the show. If Bring Back Kirk wins, Bacon
will become a top supporter of the campaign, helping it get exposure
throughout the United Kingdom as well as the US.

In addition to competing in the various games, Turner will be given
approximately 30 seconds to speak on the campaign to the audience. The
winner of the contest will be decided by the viewing audience.

The Bring Back Kirk campaign is fan operated and dedicated to the return of
James T. Kirk in Trek canon, be it in a Trek movie, a guest appearance on
Enterprise, or any other appearance that would rectify Kirk's death in
Generations and give him a happy ending. William Shatner has said he would
be willing to return on many occasions.

This television appearance is not the first time the campaign has received
public exposure. Last year, at the 35th anniversary Grand Slam Convention,
Creation Entertainment broadcast the campaign's highly acclaimed trailer,
which gave the fans an exciting insight as to how the return of Kirk might
look.

More information on the Bring Back Kirk campaign can be found at
www.bringbackkirk.com or by e-mailing OFFICIALS@BRINGBACKKIRK.COM.
Information on the Big Breakfast can be found at
http://bigbreakfast.channel4.com/.

I never watch the programme, but it will give his campaign big exposure. Only probably not exposure among anyone who could care less about it. It's people like this who make everyone else think Trek fans are complete Nerds!

Highlander II · 4th February 2002, 02:20 PM

i have a question - and don't get me wrong - Kirk was an important part of Trek canon - but - why would they want to just randomly bring him back? what purpose would it serve and what would he do?

he can't really show up on Enterprise -- can he? (i've forgotten when Enterprise takes place -sorry) and for him to show up in another movie? uh - he's dead, right? doesn't make much sense, unless he comes in as a ghost and tells everyone he's okay and happy or something ---

Dave · 4th February 2002, 10:11 PM

I completely agree with you. Maybe someone who supports this campaign can tell us?

Highlander II · 9th February 2002, 01:52 AM

yeah - maybe --

personally - i'd like to see some of McCoy's ancestors --
hey - we could even see ancestors of the TNG and DS9 groups --

anything's possible --- and i think Dax would probably be the most likely -- how old is the Dax symbiote???

Dave · 9th February 2002, 01:56 PM

I think Dax's 2nd or 3rd symbiont actually dated McCoy, so she must be around then somewhere.

There is a bit of a continuity hole there though, because in 'The Host' TNG Dr. Crusher seemed to be unfamiliar with Trills. On the other hand maybe she just wasn't a very good doctor!

Highlander II · 11th February 2002, 05:35 PM

well - i thought that McCoy was something of a xenobiologist - might be wrong there - don't remember

i know Bashir was -- he sort of 'prided' himself on it - b/c he had studied the xenobio so he could work in 'frontier medicine' -- so, he would be the most knowledgable -

maybe Crusher didn't study so much 'xenobio' -- maybe she missed that class/slept through it - you know --- <shrug>

and - well, Dax's host from the time when McCoy was at 'Ole Miss' said that she dated him - not that she told him much --

and McCoy, of course, never mentions trills (b/c i don't think they even into'd them until TNG) --- but - he may not have been told (this is one of those 'wiggle out of the plot hole w/ a good work-around' things!)

Dave · 11th February 2002, 10:29 PM

It's much easier to do that when the edges of the continuity plot-hole are a bit blurred like that!

Is 'Ole Miss' on Earth? This is a medical school, right?

ray gower · 11th February 2002, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Highlander II
well - i thought that McCoy was something of a xenobiologist - might be wrong there - don't remember

I always put McCoy down as more a xenophobe than biologist.

Highlander II · 12th February 2002, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
It's much easier to do that when the edges of the continuity plot-hole are a bit blurred like that!

Is 'Ole Miss' on Earth? This is a medical school, right?

hehe --

yeah - 'Ole Miss' - it's Mississippi State U (i think - and i'm sure someone's gonna knock me hard if i'm wrong), so, yeah - it's on Earth -

and i think it has a Med School too --- (no, i don't know everything about all 50 states of the union - so sue me) --

Highlander II · 12th February 2002, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ray gower

I always put McCoy down as more a xenophobe than biologist.

maybe he was - i knew he was one or the other --- (think i went brain backwards when i wrote that post --ooops!)

Dave · 12th February 2002, 08:27 AM

We should really stay on subject, but can't he be both?

I think he was meant to be written as a Xenobiologist-type, they all were -- their mission: to explore new worlds, seek out new. . .

but, they did tend to explore new. . . and then kill them!

Of all the cast, McCoy was definitely the most Xenophobic. He was also the one most closed to any change, or anything newfangled -- transporters being one example -- and he never liked Spock showing his Vulcan side.

Anyway, how would you bring back McCoy, considering how old he looked in 'Encounter at Farpoint' TNG?

Highlander II · 13th February 2002, 02:47 AM

umm - well - i dunno --

AND! (this is the biggie) they'd have to put him in digitally - b/c DeForest Kelley has passed -- anyway --

umm - bring him back? when was he born and in school? if Spock can't be around b/c he's not born yet, it would be harder to even get McCoy ---

let me think - i may yet come up w/ something ---

Neo · 4th March 2002, 08:17 PM

Ok here are top ways for Kirk to return.
1.) The Return way although kinda ilogical since Romies and Borg wouldn't team up.

2.) Kirk is still in the Nexus and what was with picard was a shadow of kirk.

3.) Lore jumps to a romulan clonning facility and clones kirk the rommies are mad and say that Starfleet used data to infultrate there facility to bring kirk back and battle ensues.

4.) The Dominion clone kirk for some reason.

5.) A new unseen race who can revieve people Revieve kirk and use him to battle the feds.

6.) He should just wake up in the sonic Shower and things just carry on.. (scene from Dallas)

So what way do you think is the best most of them will continue straight from Gens the Dominion one would take place during the war.

Dave · 5th March 2002, 02:59 PM

-->>>> merging with existing thread.

Some different ideas there:

I didn't understand your #1 though.

and #3 is ST:X 'Nemesis' plot.

12th February 2002, 08:27 AM	#27 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,422	Re: Xenophobe or Xenobiologist? We should really stay on subject, but can't he be both? I think he was meant to be written as a Xenobiologist-type, they all were -- their mission: to explore new worlds, seek out new. . . but, they did tend to explore new. . . and then kill them! Of all the cast, McCoy was definitely the most Xenophobic. He was also the one most closed to any change, or anything newfangled -- transporters being one example -- and he never liked Spock showing his Vulcan side. Anyway, how would you bring back McCoy, considering how old he looked in 'Encounter at Farpoint' TNG?

4th March 2002, 08:17 PM	#29 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	Ways for Kirk to return Ok here are top ways for Kirk to return. 1.) The Return way although kinda ilogical since Romies and Borg wouldn't team up. 2.) Kirk is still in the Nexus and what was with picard was a shadow of kirk. 3.) Lore jumps to a romulan clonning facility and clones kirk the rommies are mad and say that Starfleet used data to infultrate there facility to bring kirk back and battle ensues. 4.) The Dominion clone kirk for some reason. 5.) A new unseen race who can revieve people Revieve kirk and use him to battle the feds. 6.) He should just wake up in the sonic Shower and things just carry on.. (scene from Dallas) So what way do you think is the best most of them will continue straight from Gens the Dominion one would take place during the war.

30th October 2001, 04:39 PM	#16 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,412	ST:Grandparents! that's funny! tho it would be interesting for some 'ancestors' to show up - not too many, or it becomes terribly cliche --- but Spock's ancestors would be cool! (i LOVE Spock!) and we could have a McCoy show up -- wouldn't be our beloved DeForrest Kelley, but could still be a relative -- Sulu's daughter was in ST:Generations --

31st January 2002, 01:23 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,422	I just found this: BRING BACK KIRK CAMPAIGN TO BE FEATURED ON POPULAR BRITISH MORNING SHOW. The Bring Back Kirk campaign, one of the largest current Trek fan movements, will be appearing on the British morning show The Big Breakfast. Jason Turner, the UK Official, will be representing the campaign in a competition on the show on January 31, 2002. The Big Breakfast is one of three morning shows on British television, with a potential audience of 1-2 million people, or approximately the same number that tuned in to see the Enterprise episode Broken Bow when it premiered in the UK a few weeks ago. On the show, Turner will compete in a series of games for the patronage of Richard Bacon, one of the hosts of the show. If Bring Back Kirk wins, Bacon will become a top supporter of the campaign, helping it get exposure throughout the United Kingdom as well as the US. In addition to competing in the various games, Turner will be given approximately 30 seconds to speak on the campaign to the audience. The winner of the contest will be decided by the viewing audience. The Bring Back Kirk campaign is fan operated and dedicated to the return of James T. Kirk in Trek canon, be it in a Trek movie, a guest appearance on Enterprise, or any other appearance that would rectify Kirk's death in Generations and give him a happy ending. William Shatner has said he would be willing to return on many occasions. This television appearance is not the first time the campaign has received public exposure. Last year, at the 35th anniversary Grand Slam Convention, Creation Entertainment broadcast the campaign's highly acclaimed trailer, which gave the fans an exciting insight as to how the return of Kirk might look. More information on the Bring Back Kirk campaign can be found at www.bringbackkirk.com or by e-mailing OFFICIALS@BRINGBACKKIRK.COM. Information on the Big Breakfast can be found at http://bigbreakfast.channel4.com/. I never watch the programme, but it will give his campaign big exposure. Only probably not exposure among anyone who could care less about it. It's people like this who make everyone else think Trek fans are complete Nerds!

4th February 2002, 02:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,412	i have a question - and don't get me wrong - Kirk was an important part of Trek canon - but - why would they want to just randomly bring him back? what purpose would it serve and what would he do? he can't really show up on Enterprise -- can he? (i've forgotten when Enterprise takes place -sorry) and for him to show up in another movie? uh - he's dead, right? doesn't make much sense, unless he comes in as a ghost and tells everyone he's okay and happy or something ---

4th February 2002, 10:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,422	I completely agree with you. Maybe someone who supports this campaign can tell us?

9th February 2002, 01:52 AM	#20 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,412	yeah - maybe -- personally - i'd like to see some of McCoy's ancestors -- hey - we could even see ancestors of the TNG and DS9 groups -- anything's possible --- and i think Dax would probably be the most likely -- how old is the Dax symbiote???

9th February 2002, 01:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,422	I think Dax's 2nd or 3rd symbiont actually dated McCoy, so she must be around then somewhere. There is a bit of a continuity hole there though, because in 'The Host' TNG Dr. Crusher seemed to be unfamiliar with Trills. On the other hand maybe she just wasn't a very good doctor!

11th February 2002, 05:35 PM	#22 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,412	well - i thought that McCoy was something of a xenobiologist - might be wrong there - don't remember i know Bashir was -- he sort of 'prided' himself on it - b/c he had studied the xenobio so he could work in 'frontier medicine' -- so, he would be the most knowledgable - maybe Crusher didn't study so much 'xenobio' -- maybe she missed that class/slept through it - you know --- <shrug> and - well, Dax's host from the time when McCoy was at 'Ole Miss' said that she dated him - not that she told him much -- and McCoy, of course, never mentions trills (b/c i don't think they even into'd them until TNG) --- but - he may not have been told (this is one of those 'wiggle out of the plot hole w/ a good work-around' things!)

11th February 2002, 10:29 PM	#23 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,422	It's much easier to do that when the edges of the continuity plot-hole are a bit blurred like that! Is 'Ole Miss' on Earth? This is a medical school, right?

13th February 2002, 02:47 AM	#28 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,412	umm - well - i dunno -- AND! (this is the biggie) they'd have to put him in digitally - b/c DeForest Kelley has passed -- anyway -- umm - bring him back? when was he born and in school? if Spock can't be around b/c he's not born yet, it would be harder to even get McCoy --- let me think - i may yet come up w/ something ---

5th March 2002, 02:59 PM	#30 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,422	-->>>> merging with existing thread. Some different ideas there: I didn't understand your #1 though. and #3 is ST:X 'Nemesis' plot.