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Jay Jay · 16th July 2001, 07:50 PM

Good, good, then. Not too long to wait.

Thanks.

J

obcooke · 18th July 2001, 12:50 AM

Here is the partial text of an email that I sent to a friend about this subject:

If Buffy could stand-in for Dawn and be sacrificed in her place because they are mystically the same person, perhaps Dawn will be the substitute Slayer for Buffy. Which makes for good conflict when Buffy returns and tries to get Dawn to stop being a Slayer. Of course, Dawn will resist, especially if she has some early success at Slaying, under Giles direction.

It also opens the door to a lot of plot potential:

- We get to see the early days of a Slayer, which the series has never done - Buffy, Kendra & Faith were all accomplished Slayers when we first saw them.

- What if Dawn rescued Buffy, how would that affect their relationship?

- What if some of Buffy's friends were on Dawn's side?

- If you thought that Buffy and Faith were competitive, just imagine if they were sisters.

- What if Dawn found herself agreeing more with Faith's style of Slaying, impulsive, over-confident and full of youthful stubbornness?

- What if Dawn, because of her youth and inexperience returned to the traditional relationship with the Watcher's Council? After all, the Watchers may be the only ones that can keep Dawn out of an orphanage until Buffy returns. How would Buffy react to her sister being their ward?

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I'm kinda warming to the idea, despite the fact that I think Michelle looks too fragile to be a fighter. It's preferable to her being constantly in need of protecting or rescuing. I wonder if she is undergoing theatrical combat training during the off-season?

mr.pointy · 18th July 2001, 10:13 AM

Quote:

- If you thought that Buffy and Faith were competitive, just imagine if they were sisters.- What if Dawn found herself agreeing more with Faith's style of Slaying, impulsive, over-confident and full of youthful stubbornness? - What if Dawn, because of her youth and inexperience returned to the traditional relationship with the Watcher's Council? After all, the Watchers may be the only ones that can keep Dawn out of an orphanage until Buffy returns. How would Buffy react to her sister being their ward? posted by obcooke

that sounds like good conflict

Vampyre · 18th July 2001, 03:25 PM

Interesting idea...I like it.

markpud · 18th July 2001, 06:13 PM

it is an interesting idea, but i'm not sure how it would work out?? If Dawn is to become trained as a slayer, this would mean that Buffy couldnt be around for a while, but i would hope that Buffy is back in the 1st eppy...

Vampyre · 18th July 2001, 06:29 PM

I don't think she'll be back that soon.

markpud · 18th July 2001, 07:23 PM

mmm, i was figuring that she'd be back straight away... she is the main star after all....

obcooke · 18th July 2001, 07:33 PM

You seem to be assuming that the premiere will pick up right after Buffy's death. Remember "Becoming" ended the third season and "Anne" begins the day before summer vacation ends. That means at least three months between those episodes.

I couldn't help but notice that Michelle and Sarah were just about the same height at the end. They may have to write in some time, if Michelle has a growth spurt in the off-season. We all know how quickly an adolescent's appearance can change in just a few months. Especially a young woman's if you get my drift.

On when Buffy will return:

I know that they all say that Joss has creative control and that UPN has been good about not making demands, but would you like to be the one to tell the network executives: " I know that you are paying us twice as much for Sarah and Buffy, but we would like to keep her on the sidelines for the first few episodes." Can you say - NO WAY.

And the real tip-off: Just why do you think the first episode is two hours? So they can do a two hour story about the other characters? Come on. It's obvious that we will only have to wait an hour or so before Buffy returns. IT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE PREMIERE ENDS. It will be the climax, in fact, of that show. That's not a spoiler because I'm just guessing like you, but you can bet the house on it.

markpud · 18th July 2001, 09:46 PM

yup i've heard about the 2 hr spl in my reading around 2nite, so it is pretty much obvious that Buffy will make her comeback during that ep.

But will it we straight after "The Gift" or 3 months later? A lot of the seasons have started after the summer, s2 had Buffy coming back from summer with dad, s3 she came back from summer away, s4 started with the start of college, and s5 started around "back-to-school" time for Dawn, IIRC..
But since college went out of the window for much of Season 5, this may not be so relevant in S6...

mr.pointy · 19th July 2001, 04:21 PM

i didn't no that the premiere ep of season 6 was gonna be 2hrs!!!

that will be so kewl...urghhhh y am i always the last 2 no everyfing!!!

markpud · 24th July 2001, 08:10 PM

never mind!
I've got some stuff to post up that i found on the web, i almost forgot, with all the threads i'm trying to read through tonight

mr.pointy · 24th July 2001, 08:44 PM

C'mon then...post the info

pats · 25th July 2001, 05:50 PM

ok, when I saw the last episode of the season I was shocked! i had no idea that was going to happen and when it did I totally thought the show was over however, it isnt'!HOORAY! The rumor is that it's gonna be on UPN but, that sucks cuz I dont' have that station! Anways, hopefully i can watch it somehow!
She'll probably become a ultimate and then become inmortal!
who knows?!
pats

mr.pointy · 25th July 2001, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pats
The rumor is that it's gonna be on UPN but, that sucks cuz I dont' have that station!

it isn't a rumour n e more...it is gonna be on UPN, definate!

Lasanté · 25th July 2001, 06:50 PM

Hello People

They are already on the 8th episode.

I dont know how long it takes to finish filming a ep usually but i hear they are working quicker than ever on this series. Joss knows whats going to happen from begining to end.

Thats just what ive heard mkay.

Lasanté:coolyello

18th July 2001, 12:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	Dawn is Buffy, Buffy is Dawn Here is the partial text of an email that I sent to a friend about this subject: If Buffy could stand-in for Dawn and be sacrificed in her place because they are mystically the same person, perhaps Dawn will be the substitute Slayer for Buffy. Which makes for good conflict when Buffy returns and tries to get Dawn to stop being a Slayer. Of course, Dawn will resist, especially if she has some early success at Slaying, under Giles direction. It also opens the door to a lot of plot potential: - We get to see the early days of a Slayer, which the series has never done - Buffy, Kendra & Faith were all accomplished Slayers when we first saw them. - What if Dawn rescued Buffy, how would that affect their relationship? - What if some of Buffy's friends were on Dawn's side? - If you thought that Buffy and Faith were competitive, just imagine if they were sisters. - What if Dawn found herself agreeing more with Faith's style of Slaying, impulsive, over-confident and full of youthful stubbornness? - What if Dawn, because of her youth and inexperience returned to the traditional relationship with the Watcher's Council? After all, the Watchers may be the only ones that can keep Dawn out of an orphanage until Buffy returns. How would Buffy react to her sister being their ward? ----------------- I'm kinda warming to the idea, despite the fact that I think Michelle looks too fragile to be a fighter. It's preferable to her being constantly in need of protecting or rescuing. I wonder if she is undergoing theatrical combat training during the off-season?

18th July 2001, 07:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
obcooke OB-Wan Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,357	Dawn as slayer You seem to be assuming that the premiere will pick up right after Buffy's death. Remember "Becoming" ended the third season and "Anne" begins the day before summer vacation ends. That means at least three months between those episodes. I couldn't help but notice that Michelle and Sarah were just about the same height at the end. They may have to write in some time, if Michelle has a growth spurt in the off-season. We all know how quickly an adolescent's appearance can change in just a few months. Especially a young woman's if you get my drift. On when Buffy will return: I know that they all say that Joss has creative control and that UPN has been good about not making demands, but would you like to be the one to tell the network executives: " I know that you are paying us twice as much for Sarah and Buffy, but we would like to keep her on the sidelines for the first few episodes." Can you say - NO WAY. And the real tip-off: Just why do you think the first episode is two hours? So they can do a two hour story about the other characters? Come on. It's obvious that we will only have to wait an hour or so before Buffy returns. IT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE PREMIERE ENDS. It will be the climax, in fact, of that show. That's not a spoiler because I'm just guessing like you, but you can bet the house on it.

25th July 2001, 05:50 PM	#28 (permalink)
pats Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 20	Buffy Rules! ok, when I saw the last episode of the season I was shocked! i had no idea that was going to happen and when it did I totally thought the show was over however, it isnt'!HOORAY! The rumor is that it's gonna be on UPN but, that sucks cuz I dont' have that station! Anways, hopefully i can watch it somehow! She'll probably become a ultimate and then become inmortal! who knows?! pats

25th July 2001, 06:50 PM	#30 (permalink)
Lasanté Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 13	Hi Hello People They are already on the 8th episode. I dont know how long it takes to finish filming a ep usually but i hear they are working quicker than ever on this series. Joss knows whats going to happen from begining to end. Thats just what ive heard mkay. Lasanté:coolyello

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16th July 2001, 07:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jay Jay I'm a Lambrini Girl Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 168	Good, good, then. Not too long to wait. Thanks. J

18th July 2001, 03:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,369	Interesting idea...I like it.

18th July 2001, 06:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	it is an interesting idea, but i'm not sure how it would work out?? If Dawn is to become trained as a slayer, this would mean that Buffy couldnt be around for a while, but i would hope that Buffy is back in the 1st eppy...

18th July 2001, 06:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
Vampyre The Big Bad. Join Date: May 2001 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 2,369	I don't think she'll be back that soon.

18th July 2001, 07:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	mmm, i was figuring that she'd be back straight away... she is the main star after all....

18th July 2001, 09:46 PM	#24 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	yup i've heard about the 2 hr spl in my reading around 2nite, so it is pretty much obvious that Buffy will make her comeback during that ep. But will it we straight after "The Gift" or 3 months later? A lot of the seasons have started after the summer, s2 had Buffy coming back from summer with dad, s3 she came back from summer away, s4 started with the start of college, and s5 started around "back-to-school" time for Dawn, IIRC.. But since college went out of the window for much of Season 5, this may not be so relevant in S6...

19th July 2001, 04:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
mr.pointy Pray 2 da god Joss Whedon Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale, Calafornia Posts: 1,331	i didn't no that the premiere ep of season 6 was gonna be 2hrs!!! that will be so kewl...urghhhh y am i always the last 2 no everyfing!!!

24th July 2001, 08:10 PM	#26 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	never mind! I've got some stuff to post up that i found on the web, i almost forgot, with all the threads i'm trying to read through tonight

24th July 2001, 08:44 PM	#27 (permalink)
mr.pointy Pray 2 da god Joss Whedon Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale, Calafornia Posts: 1,331	C'mon then...post the info