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Diamond9697 · 15th August 2001, 08:00 PM

Actually the way I understand it they didn't decide to give Methos a deep dark past until after the forth season, and they only did that because they liked the way PW played him so much. They said that he gave them the idea to do it in the first place because of the mysterious way he played Methos.

Highlander II · 16th August 2001, 08:48 AM

WOOHOO!!!!! go PW!!!! yeah - well -- so what was w/ all the goody-goody Duncan?? is that b/c they were leading up to the Dark Quickening? so they had to parallel that??? show major contrast there?? ugh -- i just don't get it -- or did AP want Duncan to become a ..... wuss (was gonna say something else -but keeping it clean) ----

Diamond9697 · 16th August 2001, 03:37 PM

My guess is that they did it because of the whole dark quickening thing. They wanted him to be all goody-goody to show the difference between his personality before and after. They just went a bit overboard on it in my opinion....okay...maybe a lot overboard.

Highlander II · 17th August 2001, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Diamond9697
My guess is that they did it because of the whole dark quickening thing. They wanted him to be all goody-goody to show the difference between his personality before and after. They just went a bit overboard on it in my opinion....okay...maybe a lot overboard.

yeah - they went a lot overboard -- they didn't have to take him to the extreme - that's just stupid ---

more focus on Methos would have been better -- or, we could just start a show about Methos -- the little animated things were cool, but a live-action show would be much better - and I'm sure PW would LOVE to do it --- Methos has such a rich history - he's been everywhere and seen everything -- i know he's cynical now -but what was he like in Ancient Rome? in Ancient Greece? Where was he during the Dark Ages? what did he face then? Did he know the Medici family and Michelangelo?? did he go through a spot of depression and hide out in a buddhist temple for several years? did he travel to antarctica at any time?

what about his 68/69 wives?? who were they? did any of them know about his immortality? how did the marriages end? death? divorce? (in whatever form it may take) what? tell us! (i know, fanfic sometimes explores some of these areas, but usually not in the same way the TV industry would -- mostly b/c in fanfic ppl are more worried about getting characters naked and in bed than telling the story -- (which kinda bothers me - b/c it's been done to death - had this conversation in another forum)

okay -- those are most of my Methos questions for now -- just getting started tho, i think .........

Diamond9697 · 20th August 2001, 02:16 PM

Yeah...I read in an interview with PW somewhere that he's more than willing to take on the role again...so it is a definate possibility if the powers that be decide they want to do it.

WHEN they decide to go ahead and do it, it'll have to be a different style than what the others were. More of a going through and looking at the different periods of his life I think, or something to that effect anyway. I'm interested to see what his lives were like. How did he keep from going nuts for one thing? I mean 5000+ years is a long time...

Highlander II · 20th August 2001, 04:25 PM

5000+ years is a long time -- and i, too, wonder how he kept himself sane ---

and, yes, it would definitely have to take on a different flavor than the others. and while i don't want to watch a 'chronology' of Methos' life, i don't think it should be all about "the Game" and all the immies vying for the others' heads --- there needs to be something else --- esp since Methos is so different from MacLeod --

hmmm -- they should start w/ something rather 'dramatic' -- Methos being hunted by a mortal enemy or something - him having a confontation w/ Cassandra - b/c they SO never cleared that up --

and Amanda and Duncan and Joe and friends should all drop in from time to time for a chat and a beer ----

and it can begin anywhere -- doesn't have to start in 2001/2002/2020 --- whenever they begin the series - - it can begin in a flashback mode ----

personally - i would advise against opening it w/ the whole of the HL series cast -- just b/c it would almost be cliche --- ya know??

though - having Connor in the 1st ep would be totally cool!!!!

oh - speaking of Connor - why did he never appear in any of the other eps?? he was mentioned - and as often as he was, why did he never 'visit' Duncan again?? strangest friend i've ever seen --

SPOILER!! ENDGAME!!!

(of course - that doesn't make much difference now, b/c the moron PTBs killed him in the movie! argh!!)

Diamond9697 · 20th August 2001, 11:53 PM

Yeah...I agree with that. And I think having Conner in the first episode would be totally cool. It could be a flashback or something since I'm sure that they knew each other at some point in Conner's past.

Highlander II · 21st August 2001, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Diamond9697
Yeah...I agree with that. And I think having Conner in the first episode would be totally cool. It could be a flashback or something since I'm sure that they knew each other at some point in Conner's past.

i'm sure they did know each other -- and i suppose it's possible that they could even be enemies! -- but, considering there's no way that Connor would know about Methos' "Horsemen" days- it's unlikely that he would think Methos a 'bad' person --

and it would kind of tie the "methos" series to the "duncan" series if Connor was in the 1st ep -- and they could establish something btwn them - ie: Maybe they're really close friends - maybe Connor saved Methos' life? who knows - the possibilites are endless ---

and - w/ a Methos series - we can get the "Methos perspective" on things - and not the Duncan-boyscout view -- i get tired of always having to see things from Duncan's POV - what? is he the only person on the planet? (sorry - little anti-duncan stuff there) ----- we need some Methos!!!!!!

BONNIESTACKPOLE · 21st August 2001, 12:47 PM

I thought that when the series ended, they should have done a spin-off with Mythos, instead of that lame Raven series. Mythos would have been so much more interesting. He is such a multi-faceted individual. :flash: :flash:

Diamond9697 · 21st August 2001, 02:28 PM

Yeah...Methos is a much more complex character than Amanda...but I think they could have done a good series with her if they had done it differently...

ahh...Methos perspective...that could get really interesting..especially when you consider how much his perspective on things would differ from one time to another...I mean he couldn't have always been as cynical as he is now. I think it would be very cool...

Highlander II · 21st August 2001, 02:52 PM

I agree -- if they had taken a different approach to the Raven series, it might have had a chance --- but i think they played up the 'amanda the thief' bit more than necessary -- and she seemed 'out of character' - like she wasn't the same person who helped Duncan through some of those 'hard' times -- like she was a complete stranger - and i still can't believe that they didn't at least have Duncan make one guest appearance ---

And, Methos' perspective would be excellent -- there is almost NO limit to what could be done w/ him - he has such a rich history - and very little of his actual backstory has been explored -- there is great potential there ---

Diamond9697 · 21st August 2001, 05:53 PM

Yeah...at least one episode with Duncan was a must...like having connor in the first episodes of the series was.

yep...lots of untapped potential in Methos. I only hope they get up off thier butts and do something with it.

Highlander II · 21st August 2001, 05:57 PM

i'm just trying to figure out how they thought a 'spin-off' series was going to work if the only connection to the original is that the lead character is and immie --- ummmmm -- something just isn't right there --- the 'flavor' of the show needs to be similar or it won't work --

but yes -- the PTB need to get off their sixes and get to work bringing us a fabulous Methos series!!!

Diamond9697 · 25th August 2001, 01:28 PM

I got to thinking about this the other day while working on a story. If they do make a series with Methos and spend a lot of time with his past, they are gonna have to cover The Horseman years some more I would think...I mean it was around a pretty big portion of his past and all? So as an added bonus..more Kronos! *bg*

Highlander II · 25th August 2001, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by Diamond9697
I got to thinking about this the other day while working on a story. If they do make a series with Methos and spend a lot of time with his past, they are gonna have to cover The Horseman years some more I would think...I mean it was around a pretty big portion of his past and all? So as an added bonus..more Kronos! *bg*

yes - the horsemen years were a large part -- like 1000 years - that's 1/5 of his life -- that's a long time -- even for an immie!

so -- the horsemen would have to make an appearance --- which is good - i LIKE the horsemen ---

but - we need MORE Methos!!!!

21st August 2001, 12:47 PM	#39 (permalink)
BONNIESTACKPOLE FARSCAPE FANATIC Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: BOSTON Posts: 661	spin-off I thought that when the series ended, they should have done a spin-off with Mythos, instead of that lame Raven series. Mythos would have been so much more interesting. He is such a multi-faceted individual. :flash: :flash:

15th August 2001, 08:00 PM	#31 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	Actually the way I understand it they didn't decide to give Methos a deep dark past until after the forth season, and they only did that because they liked the way PW played him so much. They said that he gave them the idea to do it in the first place because of the mysterious way he played Methos.

16th August 2001, 08:48 AM	#32 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,408	WOOHOO!!!!! go PW!!!! yeah - well -- so what was w/ all the goody-goody Duncan?? is that b/c they were leading up to the Dark Quickening? so they had to parallel that??? show major contrast there?? ugh -- i just don't get it -- or did AP want Duncan to become a ..... wuss (was gonna say something else -but keeping it clean) ----

16th August 2001, 03:37 PM	#33 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	My guess is that they did it because of the whole dark quickening thing. They wanted him to be all goody-goody to show the difference between his personality before and after. They just went a bit overboard on it in my opinion....okay...maybe a lot overboard.

20th August 2001, 02:16 PM	#35 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	Yeah...I read in an interview with PW somewhere that he's more than willing to take on the role again...so it is a definate possibility if the powers that be decide they want to do it. WHEN they decide to go ahead and do it, it'll have to be a different style than what the others were. More of a going through and looking at the different periods of his life I think, or something to that effect anyway. I'm interested to see what his lives were like. How did he keep from going nuts for one thing? I mean 5000+ years is a long time...

20th August 2001, 04:25 PM	#36 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,408	5000+ years is a long time -- and i, too, wonder how he kept himself sane --- and, yes, it would definitely have to take on a different flavor than the others. and while i don't want to watch a 'chronology' of Methos' life, i don't think it should be all about "the Game" and all the immies vying for the others' heads --- there needs to be something else --- esp since Methos is so different from MacLeod -- hmmm -- they should start w/ something rather 'dramatic' -- Methos being hunted by a mortal enemy or something - him having a confontation w/ Cassandra - b/c they SO never cleared that up -- and Amanda and Duncan and Joe and friends should all drop in from time to time for a chat and a beer ---- and it can begin anywhere -- doesn't have to start in 2001/2002/2020 --- whenever they begin the series - - it can begin in a flashback mode ---- personally - i would advise against opening it w/ the whole of the HL series cast -- just b/c it would almost be cliche --- ya know?? though - having Connor in the 1st ep would be totally cool!!!! oh - speaking of Connor - why did he never appear in any of the other eps?? he was mentioned - and as often as he was, why did he never 'visit' Duncan again?? strangest friend i've ever seen -- SPOILER!! ENDGAME!!! (of course - that doesn't make much difference now, b/c the moron PTBs killed him in the movie! argh!!)

20th August 2001, 11:53 PM	#37 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	Yeah...I agree with that. And I think having Conner in the first episode would be totally cool. It could be a flashback or something since I'm sure that they knew each other at some point in Conner's past.

21st August 2001, 02:28 PM	#40 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	Yeah...Methos is a much more complex character than Amanda...but I think they could have done a good series with her if they had done it differently... ahh...Methos perspective...that could get really interesting..especially when you consider how much his perspective on things would differ from one time to another...I mean he couldn't have always been as cynical as he is now. I think it would be very cool...

21st August 2001, 02:52 PM	#41 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,408	I agree -- if they had taken a different approach to the Raven series, it might have had a chance --- but i think they played up the 'amanda the thief' bit more than necessary -- and she seemed 'out of character' - like she wasn't the same person who helped Duncan through some of those 'hard' times -- like she was a complete stranger - and i still can't believe that they didn't at least have Duncan make one guest appearance --- And, Methos' perspective would be excellent -- there is almost NO limit to what could be done w/ him - he has such a rich history - and very little of his actual backstory has been explored -- there is great potential there ---

21st August 2001, 05:53 PM	#42 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	Yeah...at least one episode with Duncan was a must...like having connor in the first episodes of the series was. yep...lots of untapped potential in Methos. I only hope they get up off thier butts and do something with it.

21st August 2001, 05:57 PM	#43 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,408	i'm just trying to figure out how they thought a 'spin-off' series was going to work if the only connection to the original is that the lead character is and immie --- ummmmm -- something just isn't right there --- the 'flavor' of the show needs to be similar or it won't work -- but yes -- the PTB need to get off their sixes and get to work bringing us a fabulous Methos series!!!

25th August 2001, 01:28 PM	#44 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	I got to thinking about this the other day while working on a story. If they do make a series with Methos and spend a lot of time with his past, they are gonna have to cover The Horseman years some more I would think...I mean it was around a pretty big portion of his past and all? So as an added bonus..more Kronos! bg