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shiloh · 28th September 2001, 05:26 PM

Generally really liked it. I liked it a heck of a lot better than any episode of Voyager. This is a drama show, not a PC-New Agey show. Yeah.

I love that things don't work very well. The equipment is untrustworthy, the ship doesn't go all that fast, it shakes and rattles in 'turbulence' (for lack of a better word). Archer is a smart ass who isn't afraid to snark off at the vulcan ambassador or pretty much anyone else who gets in his way. The humans are *real* people. Everyone doesn't get along. Space is full of unknowns, and the Terrans are the new kids on the block, with littler guns and weaker ships. There's a whole lot of potential for actual DRAMA here. A good old-fashioned space opera.

A couple of complaints. Yeah, I thought the theme music sucked big time. Sounded like a John Denver ballad. It's gotta go, imho. And I found that shower scene pretty gratuitous. It made no sense (if you're going into decontamination, you don't wear clothes, you don't share the shower with someone else, and if you have to put some sort of lotion on, well, you gotta put it everywhere, if you get my drift.)

The dog is cute. I just hope it never ends up 'saving the ship'.

Neo · 28th September 2001, 08:49 PM

well mixed views... but mainly good

Dave · 28th September 2001, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by shiloh
The dog is cute. I just hope it never ends up 'saving the ship'.

LOL

It probably will when the writers run out of ideas.

Mellian · 29th September 2001, 07:18 AM

Overall I liked the show. I liked the fact that not everything worked the way that it should.

One thing that bothered me was the way the Vulcans where portrayed. It just didn't fit with my image of them as seen in the other series or when they talked about early history. I guess that is their Prime Diretive making us figure it out for ourselves.

Liked the dog, thought it made perfect sense for Archer to talk to it. After all most pet owners admit talking to their animals and the ones that don't aren't being truthful.

It gives him something to talk to instead of just talking to the air.

I thought the actress that did T'Pol did a good job. Amazing how you can make anything sound logical. The Doctor looks like an interesting character.

It will be interesting to see what they do with this show. It definetly has potential.

Neo · 29th September 2001, 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by Dave

LOL

It probably will when the writers run out of ideas.

O u know its just gonna hppen..

krimmy · 30th September 2001, 08:53 AM

I've watched the show a few times since it aired and thought it was pretty good. My take on the Vulcans is that they see themselves as protecting the humans from the unknown and at the same time trying to keep them from making the kind of mistakes that could cause the region to become even more chaotic.

I thought T'Pol was the best part of the show, those looks ahe gave Archer after he bitched her out were great(she has gorgeous eyes). Based on the flashbacks there is much back story to be told on the Archer/T'pol relationship. I though Bakula did a good job, the only bit of dialog I thought that didn't sound right was the talk at the end of the episode between he and T'Pol. It was how he said it that didn't sit well with me, she mentions pride then he say's "Perhaps I should" didn't seem to come out right......delivery Scott!, delivery!

Oh and I like the theme, like the show its different than the other Trek shows.

I think the series is going to be very interesting, I'm on board!

Neo · 30th September 2001, 10:37 PM

I have just downloaded it from the net and gonna watch it now...

Dave · 30th September 2001, 10:55 PM

The Link? ...where's the link,Neo? You gonna keep it to yourself

Don't worry, it was probably this one...

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Neo · 1st October 2001, 12:27 AM

Its in my sig dave

www.enterprise-uk.net

Asmiley · 1st October 2001, 07:36 PM

groovy. Hmm the dog saving the ship.... um well why not it'll be a good long while but it could happen.

Neo · 2nd October 2001, 01:31 AM

it will when we get to season 7 and the writers are thinking..... arrrrhhhh what can we write about...

Highlander II · 2nd October 2001, 03:55 PM

i'm hoping the dog doesn't get made acting captain --

well - at least he won't connect himself to the ship via the holodeck - this ship doesn't have one -- can't -- NCC-1701 didn't - and this pre-dates that -

hmmmm - has the dog been to Starfleet?? or is he really intelligent?

at least his name's not Wesley ---

Neo · 3rd October 2001, 07:58 PM

always something in Trek... always

Asmiley · 3rd October 2001, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by Highlander II

at least his name's not Wesley ---

Here here!

Neo · 3rd October 2001, 08:27 PM

he he he he ...poor wesley

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28th September 2001, 05:26 PM	#46 (permalink)
shiloh Cogito ergo doleo Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Culver City, California Posts: 630	Generally really liked it. I liked it a heck of a lot better than any episode of Voyager. This is a drama show, not a PC-New Agey show. Yeah. I love that things don't work very well. The equipment is untrustworthy, the ship doesn't go all that fast, it shakes and rattles in 'turbulence' (for lack of a better word). Archer is a smart ass who isn't afraid to snark off at the vulcan ambassador or pretty much anyone else who gets in his way. The humans are real people. Everyone doesn't get along. Space is full of unknowns, and the Terrans are the new kids on the block, with littler guns and weaker ships. There's a whole lot of potential for actual DRAMA here. A good old-fashioned space opera. A couple of complaints. Yeah, I thought the theme music sucked big time. Sounded like a John Denver ballad. It's gotta go, imho. And I found that shower scene pretty gratuitous. It made no sense (if you're going into decontamination, you don't wear clothes, you don't share the shower with someone else, and if you have to put some sort of lotion on, well, you gotta put it everywhere, if you get my drift.) The dog is cute. I just hope it never ends up 'saving the ship'.

28th September 2001, 08:49 PM	#47 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	well mixed views... but mainly good

29th September 2001, 07:18 AM	#49 (permalink)
Mellian Sothoii war maid Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Corning, New York, USA Posts: 597	Overall I liked the show. I liked the fact that not everything worked the way that it should. One thing that bothered me was the way the Vulcans where portrayed. It just didn't fit with my image of them as seen in the other series or when they talked about early history. I guess that is their Prime Diretive making us figure it out for ourselves. Liked the dog, thought it made perfect sense for Archer to talk to it. After all most pet owners admit talking to their animals and the ones that don't aren't being truthful. It gives him something to talk to instead of just talking to the air. I thought the actress that did T'Pol did a good job. Amazing how you can make anything sound logical. The Doctor looks like an interesting character. It will be interesting to see what they do with this show. It definetly has potential.

30th September 2001, 08:53 AM	#51 (permalink)
krimmy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2	I've watched the show a few times since it aired and thought it was pretty good. My take on the Vulcans is that they see themselves as protecting the humans from the unknown and at the same time trying to keep them from making the kind of mistakes that could cause the region to become even more chaotic. I thought T'Pol was the best part of the show, those looks ahe gave Archer after he bitched her out were great(she has gorgeous eyes). Based on the flashbacks there is much back story to be told on the Archer/T'pol relationship. I though Bakula did a good job, the only bit of dialog I thought that didn't sound right was the talk at the end of the episode between he and T'Pol. It was how he said it that didn't sit well with me, she mentions pride then he say's "Perhaps I should" didn't seem to come out right......delivery Scott!, delivery! Oh and I like the theme, like the show its different than the other Trek shows. I think the series is going to be very interesting, I'm on board!

30th September 2001, 10:37 PM	#52 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	I have just downloaded it from the net and gonna watch it now...

1st October 2001, 12:27 AM	#54 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	Its in my sig dave www.enterprise-uk.net

1st October 2001, 07:36 PM	#55 (permalink)
Asmiley lost in Time Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,373	groovy. Hmm the dog saving the ship.... um well why not it'll be a good long while but it could happen.

2nd October 2001, 01:31 AM	#56 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	it will when we get to season 7 and the writers are thinking..... arrrrhhhh what can we write about...

2nd October 2001, 03:55 PM	#57 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,481	i'm hoping the dog doesn't get made acting captain -- well - at least he won't connect himself to the ship via the holodeck - this ship doesn't have one -- can't -- NCC-1701 didn't - and this pre-dates that - hmmmm - has the dog been to Starfleet?? or is he really intelligent? at least his name's not Wesley ---

3rd October 2001, 07:58 PM	#58 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	always something in Trek... always

3rd October 2001, 08:27 PM	#60 (permalink)
Neo Red Pixie Boot Wearer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West UK Posts: 4,596	he he he he ...poor wesley