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Daring Dragoon2 · 6th June 2001, 08:57 PM

Cleo2525,and Charlie's Angels!
I mean they're both 3 women teams,w/a mysterious voice as their "boss" whom they have never seen,etc.
Did anyone else notice that?

august · 7th June 2001, 02:05 PM

Yep, that was a subject of great discussion at the old Studios USA Cleo board in the first few weeks of the show. Actually, it was people who idn't care for the show that much (either they liked Jack better, or they were Xena/Herc fans who didn't care for either Jack or Cleo) who mainly brought it up.

I think everypone agreed that if it was Charlie's Angels, it was more of a dysfunctional Charlie's Angels, since the Angels were equal partners, while Sarge was a surly rebel, Hel was a very conflicted leader, and both initally looked down on Cleo. And Voice definitely had her own agana going on.

Plus, there were people who felt that the Angels were bimbos, while Hel and Sarge were very smart, and Cleo had sort of street smarts and intuition going for her. And then there was the action component - the TV Angels weren't really martial artists, it was really more of a conventional cop or detective show.

Funny thing was, when the Angels movie came out, *it* resembled Cleo! The team was no longer all Caucasian, one of the Angels was a little dingy, and there was a ton of Hong Kong-style martial arts in it!

Of course, people who didn't care for the original Angels but enjoyed the straight sci-fi element of Cleo got all upset when such a thing was suggested.

Really, what it reminded me of was the obvious: the unerground world we only saw a few minutes of in "The Terminator" movies. Plus elements of any number of post-apocalyptic sci-fi novels - "Star Man's Son" by Andre Norton came to mind and it later was revealed that an old novella called "Tumithak of the Corridors" was a big influence as well. Plus of course the 30-years-previous incarnations of "Andromeda" - a failed pilot from 1970 caled "Genesis II" in which Dylan Hunt was awakened from cryogenic freezing into an underground society that travelled using shfts and corridors!

Note : this is the kind of rambling, speculative discussion we used to have *all* the time at the old Cleo board!

Curupira · 18th July 2001, 12:44 PM

Wow! I never noticed that before! I'm gonna miss this show. I never really cared for Jack of all Trades, but I liked Cleo 2525 alot

Daring Dragoon2 · 18th July 2001, 01:26 PM

I miss both shows!

Curupira · 19th July 2001, 12:32 PM

They always cancell all the good ones...

:angry:

Daring Dragoon2 · 19th July 2001, 01:02 PM

I know really!

ZachWZ · 11th September 2002, 04:48 AM

Here is a little fact about Terminator. The outer limits people sued them and won. It seems to many pariells between the flick and the man with a glass hand existed.

Has for the cleo angle. They was one huge difference between them and that movie. Cleo was well written, had a plot, was funny, and at other times was dramatic. (Sarge and her sister.) and the Bimbo cooments goes double for the current version of the Angels. Don't get me started on Barrymore's lack of acting.

So IMHO that is no comparison.

ZachWZ

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Daring Dragoon2 Bond's Babe Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kinda small town in Southwestern PA Posts: 236	I noticed some similarities between........ Cleo2525,and Charlie's Angels! I mean they're both 3 women teams,w/a mysterious voice as their "boss" whom they have never seen,etc. Did anyone else notice that?

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7th June 2001, 02:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
august Nymphet Connoisseur Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the deep south, home of Hootie, Strom Thurmond, Vanna White and Donna Rice! Posts: 206	Yep, that was a subject of great discussion at the old Studios USA Cleo board in the first few weeks of the show. Actually, it was people who idn't care for the show that much (either they liked Jack better, or they were Xena/Herc fans who didn't care for either Jack or Cleo) who mainly brought it up. I think everypone agreed that if it was Charlie's Angels, it was more of a dysfunctional Charlie's Angels, since the Angels were equal partners, while Sarge was a surly rebel, Hel was a very conflicted leader, and both initally looked down on Cleo. And Voice definitely had her own agana going on. Plus, there were people who felt that the Angels were bimbos, while Hel and Sarge were very smart, and Cleo had sort of street smarts and intuition going for her. And then there was the action component - the TV Angels weren't really martial artists, it was really more of a conventional cop or detective show. Funny thing was, when the Angels movie came out, it resembled Cleo! The team was no longer all Caucasian, one of the Angels was a little dingy, and there was a ton of Hong Kong-style martial arts in it! Of course, people who didn't care for the original Angels but enjoyed the straight sci-fi element of Cleo got all upset when such a thing was suggested. Really, what it reminded me of was the obvious: the unerground world we only saw a few minutes of in "The Terminator" movies. Plus elements of any number of post-apocalyptic sci-fi novels - "Star Man's Son" by Andre Norton came to mind and it later was revealed that an old novella called "Tumithak of the Corridors" was a big influence as well. Plus of course the 30-years-previous incarnations of "Andromeda" - a failed pilot from 1970 caled "Genesis II" in which Dylan Hunt was awakened from cryogenic freezing into an underground society that travelled using shfts and corridors! Note : this is the kind of rambling, speculative discussion we used to have all the time at the old Cleo board!

18th July 2001, 12:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Curupira Tribal Princess Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 511	Wow! I never noticed that before! I'm gonna miss this show. I never really cared for Jack of all Trades, but I liked Cleo 2525 alot

18th July 2001, 01:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Daring Dragoon2 Bond's Babe Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kinda small town in Southwestern PA Posts: 236	I miss both shows!

19th July 2001, 12:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Curupira Tribal Princess Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 511	They always cancell all the good ones... :angry:

19th July 2001, 01:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Daring Dragoon2 Bond's Babe Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kinda small town in Southwestern PA Posts: 236	I know really!

11th September 2002, 04:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
ZachWZ Pre 1986 Comics Fan Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ottawa county MI USA Posts: 592	Here is a little fact about Terminator. The outer limits people sued them and won. It seems to many pariells between the flick and the man with a glass hand existed. Has for the cleo angle. They was one huge difference between them and that movie. Cleo was well written, had a plot, was funny, and at other times was dramatic. (Sarge and her sister.) and the Bimbo cooments goes double for the current version of the Angels. Don't get me started on Barrymore's lack of acting. So IMHO that is no comparison. ZachWZ