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PTeppic · 8th June 2001, 10:24 PM

Ra: sharp-toothed alien vs. snakey thing...

To justify it, how about a host within a host? The snake Goa'uld was within the alien body, which itself was within/metamorphosed to Ra's outer shape?

Just a silly idea...:dead:

PTeppic · 8th June 2001, 10:31 PM

And I suppose other notables:

Sam was on the programme behind the scenes and "should have gone on the first mission" so her brilliance was there - yet they didn't try all 39 glyphs as the seventh? Doh!

Nor deduced the symbols were star signs - she is meant to be an astro-physicist PhD - she should recognise Orion; and Lynx or Cetus looks a lot like Ursa Major (I think!)

And they had a probe in the film, but had to get a "prototype probe from MIT" in the series.

At the end of the film all the MP5s on Abydos were out of ammo - yet they appear to be re-loaded by the start of the series (COTG).

Considerably different helmet actions for the guards/Jaffa

Edward Harrison · 12th June 2001, 05:13 AM

With all the differences and inconsistancies mentioned in this thread, nobody has mentioned what is probably one of the more important problems: the stargate itself. In the stargate movie, when the stargate opens it has a swirling cone shaped watery blob of 'event horizon stuff' (er.. whatever it is that the portal is made of) sticking out behind the stargate. This is simply not the case with the series, as the portal is flat in the series, even being made so obvious in episodes like children of the gods, where the camera even moves right behind the stargate and has a look through from the back! That's one thing they could have surely managed to keep consistant, and they shouldn't have let that slip by.....

Nevertheless, the stargate universe is what it is today because of the series, and, lack of continuity or not, it's still great. It's probably the only show I can sit down and watch without saying, "geeze, that's stupid, couldn't they have thought that out better?"

What are we complaining about?

(scratches head, shrugs, and resumes watching episode after episode on dvd with a slice of pizza in one hand.....)

Indiana · 12th June 2001, 08:17 AM

The only goof in that is the idea that the stargate Kawoosh in the TV series does not fire back out of the rear. It Settles back in the middle of the stargate. In the film the event horizon is flat. We see the back end of it going back into the middle of the gate to create a flat surface and it's also described that way in the books.

summershake · 12th June 2001, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by P'Teppic
And I suppose other notables:

Sam was on the programme behind the scenes and "should have gone on the first mission" so her brilliance was there - yet they didn't try all 39 glyphs as the seventh? Doh!

In COTG she says she and her team tried hundreds of constellations but it never worked. So Daniel says that's what he did, but the locations might jave been destroyed or buried...
:rolly2:
Oh, and not complaining, it's just funny to see nothing's perfect...(but almost...)
I watch most episodes over and over so after the tenth time I recognize some things I didn't by watching it the first time...

(joining you watching with a pizza in my hand)

Dawar · 13th June 2001, 11:46 PM

Edward Harrison you said

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when the stargate opens it has a swirling cone shaped watery blob of 'event

Now I dont think there is anything wrong with this because that was the first time they opened the stargate ( so we think) and the stargate had to align it self becase it was not used for thousands of years and maybe that is the cause of that BLOB
In the TV show there is no blob because they dont need to align the stargate anymore.
Well that is what I think.

Here is what I noticed.

In the movie Daniel was the one who found the 7th symbol and that is when Katherine and the others dialed Abydos.

But in The Torment of Tantalus Daniel found out that Katherine and her father have already opened the gate in the 50's which means that Katherine new the 7th symbol. Why did she need Daniel to find it again. Its kinda a weird situation

Here is one thing that I dont get. Stargate and the goa'uld ships are made of naquadah, but naquadah is extremely rare and is used to power generators, so how come they use naquadah as a power source and a building material. Maybe there are 2 types of naquadah one that is radioactive and the other that is a non-radioactive metal. Does anyone know?

PTeppic · 18th June 2001, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by summershake
In COTG she says she and her team tried hundreds of constellations but it never worked. So Daniel says that's what he did, but the locations might jave been destroyed or buried...

But these attempts were AFTER the first (i.e. film) mission, and Daniel is left on Abydos... my point was how come she didn't try it (i.e. all 38 or 39 glyphs) before Daniel found it - she is a PhD.

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But in The Torment of Tantalus Daniel found out that Katherine and her father have already opened the gate in the 50's which means that Katherine new the 7th symbol. Why did she need Daniel to find it again. Its kinda a weird situation

Because Katherine herself didn't know that they had succeded in opening the gate the first time - we presume there was exceptional secrecy about those first openings, and Ernest went through on only the second or third attempt - and it was abandoned when he apparently died... given their ages there would be very few who would know, even if they were sworn to secrecy. So who would tell, and who would they tell, and who would believe it?

summershake · 23rd June 2001, 12:54 AM

[quote]Originally posted by P'Teppic
[b]
But these attempts were AFTER the first (i.e. film) mission, and Daniel is left on Abydos... my point was how come she didn't try it (i.e. all 38 or 39 glyphs) before Daniel found it - she is a PhD.

I meant that she said she tried hundrets of constellations herself, but it didn't work because in COTG they said that it couldn't work because they had to update the aims with the Doppler-effect. All the planets she and her team tried couldn't get dialed cos the cartouche wasn't updated. The planets were destroyed, buried or the cartouche didn't work cos the plantes alredy moved away from the original aims on the cartouche.

Dawar · 23rd June 2001, 01:38 AM

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children of the gods

good one man!

summershake · 23rd June 2001, 03:23 PM

Yeah u got it...:rolly2:

PTeppic · 19th August 2001, 01:48 PM

Another difference on the gate itself, of course, are the chevrons have suddenly gone reddish and illuminate when locking.

sha'uri's smile · 3rd October 2001, 09:59 AM

Hi, I just wanted to say I was a big fan of the movie first and foremost, and didn't get to see the series until my friend taped it for me and mailed it to me. So, I was always behind, but came to like it ok. I even went so far as to send Roland and Dean a letter telling them how much I liked the movie and sent along a story I wrote as a pre-quel to the movie. Of course they couldn't read the story, but loved my letter, I even got a call from his office thanking me. I have a few mistakes I found in the movie itself that I even brought up to them, here's a few.

Daniel pushes in the side of the temple wall as he's walking out, it's supposed to be rock.

After sha'uri's brought back to life after being shot by the guard, Daniel carries her back to the rings. Well, in one scene she has her arms around his neck, the next she's flopping back like she's dead, the next, her arms are back around his neck.

Then, the only other big thing I saw was the wires holding the gliders up as the flew around in the fight scenes.

Anyone got any others??

SS

summershake · 3rd October 2001, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by sha'uri's smile
Then, the only other big thing I saw was the wires holding the gliders up as the flew around in the fight scenes.

Really? I didn't recognize that...haev to watch the movie again...for the fitieth time....

I'd liket o see more mistakes between the movie and the series...they changed so many things...it's funny!!

Gater · 4th October 2001, 08:11 PM

I just enjoy watching it now i'm banned from pointing out inconsistences plus i'm a complete pain for adding my own commentary-you know like what they REALLY mean when they say something. Not everyone appreciates it except my Dad and Sis who are completely hopelees at following plotlines so even if i only start watching half way through i have to tell them whats going on. In my home i'm undisputed Queen of Trivia ....come to think of it Queen of The Television would probably fit just as well:lol::lol::lol:

AJ Storm · 27th May 2002, 09:35 PM

How about how long it takes the stargate to settle down in the film compared with the series.

and how shaky the whole complex got? when in the series it doesnt vibrate at all.

Also if carter had made the supercomputer dialing program that got the gate working, why was she nowhere near when they got it working?

Oh and how did Apophis know that Earths gate was active again? It isnt as if Ra could have told him

um.....

Oh yeah, and if radio waves transfer to through the stargate and keep a wormhole active, how come they could only keep an active one for like seconds when they usually have it on for ages when the probe is on

And one last thing, the abydos gate room is a hell of a lot smaller in the film

I think thats all my observations

12th June 2001, 05:13 AM	#18 (permalink)
Edward Harrison Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3	Nobody noticed? With all the differences and inconsistancies mentioned in this thread, nobody has mentioned what is probably one of the more important problems: the stargate itself. In the stargate movie, when the stargate opens it has a swirling cone shaped watery blob of 'event horizon stuff' (er.. whatever it is that the portal is made of) sticking out behind the stargate. This is simply not the case with the series, as the portal is flat in the series, even being made so obvious in episodes like children of the gods, where the camera even moves right behind the stargate and has a look through from the back! That's one thing they could have surely managed to keep consistant, and they shouldn't have let that slip by..... Nevertheless, the stargate universe is what it is today because of the series, and, lack of continuity or not, it's still great. It's probably the only show I can sit down and watch without saying, "geeze, that's stupid, couldn't they have thought that out better?" What are we complaining about? (scratches head, shrugs, and resumes watching episode after episode on dvd with a slice of pizza in one hand.....)

12th June 2001, 08:17 AM	#19 (permalink)
Indiana Adventurer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 170	The only goof in that is... The only goof in that is the idea that the stargate Kawoosh in the TV series does not fire back out of the rear. It Settles back in the middle of the stargate. In the film the event horizon is flat. We see the back end of it going back into the middle of the gate to create a flat surface and it's also described that way in the books.

3rd October 2001, 09:59 AM	#27 (permalink)
sha'uri's smile Gate Groupie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: WA Posts: 167	mistakes Hi, I just wanted to say I was a big fan of the movie first and foremost, and didn't get to see the series until my friend taped it for me and mailed it to me. So, I was always behind, but came to like it ok. I even went so far as to send Roland and Dean a letter telling them how much I liked the movie and sent along a story I wrote as a pre-quel to the movie. Of course they couldn't read the story, but loved my letter, I even got a call from his office thanking me. I have a few mistakes I found in the movie itself that I even brought up to them, here's a few. Daniel pushes in the side of the temple wall as he's walking out, it's supposed to be rock. After sha'uri's brought back to life after being shot by the guard, Daniel carries her back to the rings. Well, in one scene she has her arms around his neck, the next she's flopping back like she's dead, the next, her arms are back around his neck. Then, the only other big thing I saw was the wires holding the gliders up as the flew around in the fight scenes. Anyone got any others?? SS

8th June 2001, 10:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,086	Ra: sharp-toothed alien vs. snakey thing... To justify it, how about a host within a host? The snake Goa'uld was within the alien body, which itself was within/metamorphosed to Ra's outer shape? Just a silly idea...:dead:

8th June 2001, 10:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,086	And I suppose other notables: Sam was on the programme behind the scenes and "should have gone on the first mission" so her brilliance was there - yet they didn't try all 39 glyphs as the seventh? Doh! Nor deduced the symbols were star signs - she is meant to be an astro-physicist PhD - she should recognise Orion; and Lynx or Cetus looks a lot like Ursa Major (I think!) And they had a probe in the film, but had to get a "prototype probe from MIT" in the series. At the end of the film all the MP5s on Abydos were out of ammo - yet they appear to be re-loaded by the start of the series (COTG). Considerably different helmet actions for the guards/Jaffa

23rd June 2001, 12:54 AM	#23 (permalink)
summershake Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Austria Posts: 2,829	[quote]Originally posted by P'Teppic [b] But these attempts were AFTER the first (i.e. film) mission, and Daniel is left on Abydos... my point was how come she didn't try it (i.e. all 38 or 39 glyphs) before Daniel found it - she is a PhD. I meant that she said she tried hundrets of constellations herself, but it didn't work because in COTG they said that it couldn't work because they had to update the aims with the Doppler-effect. All the planets she and her team tried couldn't get dialed cos the cartouche wasn't updated. The planets were destroyed, buried or the cartouche didn't work cos the plantes alredy moved away from the original aims on the cartouche.

23rd June 2001, 03:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
summershake Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Austria Posts: 2,829	Yeah u got it...:rolly2:

19th August 2001, 01:48 PM	#26 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,086	Another difference on the gate itself, of course, are the chevrons have suddenly gone reddish and illuminate when locking.

4th October 2001, 08:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
Gater Muhahaha! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: England Posts: 537	I just enjoy watching it now i'm banned from pointing out inconsistences plus i'm a complete pain for adding my own commentary-you know like what they REALLY mean when they say something. Not everyone appreciates it except my Dad and Sis who are completely hopelees at following plotlines so even if i only start watching half way through i have to tell them whats going on. In my home i'm undisputed Queen of Trivia ....come to think of it Queen of The Television would probably fit just as well:lol::lol::lol:

27th May 2002, 09:35 PM	#30 (permalink)
AJ Storm Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 27	How about how long it takes the stargate to settle down in the film compared with the series. and how shaky the whole complex got? when in the series it doesnt vibrate at all. Also if carter had made the supercomputer dialing program that got the gate working, why was she nowhere near when they got it working? Oh and how did Apophis know that Earths gate was active again? It isnt as if Ra could have told him um..... Oh yeah, and if radio waves transfer to through the stargate and keep a wormhole active, how come they could only keep an active one for like seconds when they usually have it on for ages when the probe is on And one last thing, the abydos gate room is a hell of a lot smaller in the film I think thats all my observations