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I, Brian · 28th March 2004, 01:47 PM

Here's a few interesting articles on propaganda techniques, and the various fallacies that can enter an argument. I thought some people may find some of the reading very interesting.

Logical Fallacies and the Art of Debate
Propaganda Techniques
Propaganda Techniques (2nd site)
Fallacies
Logical fallacies revisted

littlemissattitude · 3rd April 2004, 06:15 PM

These look fascinating, Brian. I'll have to take a look at them.

I, Brian · 3rd April 2004, 09:13 PM

I thought these might be especially useful for the writing of political characters and governments. These links should provide knowledge on ways that politicians, demoagogues, and orators in general will try and move their audience and wrap their own propagandist agendas.

Hypes · 10th May 2004, 03:35 PM

Those were great, actually, they've helped me in quite a few debates already. Those fallacies are much easier to spot once you know about them.

Esioul · 10th May 2004, 07:49 PM

I'm going to have a look at them properly when I get back in tonight, they look good.

I'm a bit obsessed with Socrates and sophistry. I like to try and prove to people their name is not what they claim it is, and things like that.... I'm insane...

Hypes · 10th May 2004, 08:17 PM

Well, it's certainly a worthy task.

Esioul · 11th May 2004, 12:07 AM

It is if my brother is showing off about his good GCSE's and he needs taking down a peg or two.

Hypes · 11th May 2004, 12:36 AM

I find that other, more violent measures do the trick as well, though with considerably less, ah, subtlety.

Esioul · 11th May 2004, 08:35 PM

No good... he's bigger than me. What happened? Three years ago I was bigger. It's not fair- the boys on the school bus suddenly grew from about 3 feet to about 6 feet in the space of a month, which made them much more able to give me trouble.

Hypes · 11th May 2004, 08:38 PM

Those growth spurts are a real pain in the proverbial rear, I agree. Or rather, the lack of them. I despise being 1,75m.

Esioul · 11th May 2004, 08:53 PM

I used to be considered tall, but now I'm middling, beause everyone else is tall as well.

Hypes · 11th May 2004, 09:31 PM

If you're taller than me I shall promptly wail like a little girl who just lost her favourite Barbie.

Esioul · 12th May 2004, 05:13 PM

You may be younger than me as well, you know, for all I know.

I'm about 5 foot 3, I should think.

Hypes · 12th May 2004, 05:56 PM

Hrrmpf!

:: looks down and gloats

Esioul · 12th May 2004, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypes

Hrrmpf!

:: looks down and gloats

Puts on high heels and gloats too.

28th March 2004, 01:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
I, Brian Admin and Tea-boy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK: SCOTLAND: Posts: 5,374	Propaganda and fallacies Here's a few interesting articles on propaganda techniques, and the various fallacies that can enter an argument. I thought some people may find some of the reading very interesting. Logical Fallacies and the Art of Debate Propaganda Techniques Propaganda Techniques (2nd site) Fallacies Logical fallacies revisted

3rd April 2004, 06:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
littlemissattitude Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,342	Re: Propaganda and fallacies These look fascinating, Brian. I'll have to take a look at them.

3rd April 2004, 09:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
I, Brian Admin and Tea-boy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK: SCOTLAND: Posts: 5,374	Re: Propaganda and fallacies I thought these might be especially useful for the writing of political characters and governments. These links should provide knowledge on ways that politicians, demoagogues, and orators in general will try and move their audience and wrap their own propagandist agendas.

10th May 2004, 03:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hypes medic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 978	Re: Propaganda and fallacies Those were great, actually, they've helped me in quite a few debates already. Those fallacies are much easier to spot once you know about them.

10th May 2004, 07:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Esioul The weird one Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Durham Posts: 926	Re: Propaganda and fallacies I'm going to have a look at them properly when I get back in tonight, they look good. I'm a bit obsessed with Socrates and sophistry. I like to try and prove to people their name is not what they claim it is, and things like that.... I'm insane...

10th May 2004, 08:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hypes medic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 978	Re: Propaganda and fallacies Well, it's certainly a worthy task.

11th May 2004, 12:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Esioul The weird one Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Durham Posts: 926	Re: Propaganda and fallacies It is if my brother is showing off about his good GCSE's and he needs taking down a peg or two.

11th May 2004, 12:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hypes medic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 978	Re: Propaganda and fallacies I find that other, more violent measures do the trick as well, though with considerably less, ah, subtlety.

11th May 2004, 08:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Esioul The weird one Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Durham Posts: 926	Re: Propaganda and fallacies No good... he's bigger than me. What happened? Three years ago I was bigger. It's not fair- the boys on the school bus suddenly grew from about 3 feet to about 6 feet in the space of a month, which made them much more able to give me trouble.

11th May 2004, 08:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Hypes medic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 978	Re: Propaganda and fallacies Those growth spurts are a real pain in the proverbial rear, I agree. Or rather, the lack of them. I despise being 1,75m.

11th May 2004, 08:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Esioul The weird one Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Durham Posts: 926	Re: Propaganda and fallacies I used to be considered tall, but now I'm middling, beause everyone else is tall as well.

11th May 2004, 09:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hypes medic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 978	Re: Propaganda and fallacies If you're taller than me I shall promptly wail like a little girl who just lost her favourite Barbie.

12th May 2004, 05:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Esioul The weird one Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Durham Posts: 926	Re: Propaganda and fallacies You may be younger than me as well, you know, for all I know. I'm about 5 foot 3, I should think.

12th May 2004, 05:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
Hypes medic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 978	Re: Propaganda and fallacies Hrrmpf! :: looks down and gloats

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