Highlander TV Series: Villian - Page 7 - Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums

Diamond9697 · 23rd September 2001, 04:39 AM

we could...but who would be interested in posting on it?

Highlander II · 23rd September 2001, 02:39 PM

yeah- i know ---

but some guys might be interested --

anyway --

villains --

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

anyone else find it's harder to create villains that it is to create good guys??

my k'immies usually end up being kinda wimpy or over-bearing - don't really know why tho ----

Diamond9697 · 24th September 2001, 12:48 AM

yeah...villians are a pain to create...mine are always so melodramatic...but I'm working on that...and the ones I'm using in my newest story already have established personalities so it's a little easier

Highlander II · 26th September 2001, 12:17 PM

well, yes, the pre-established baddies are easier to work with -- and i still can't understand why my baddies always end up kinda weird/wussy -- dunno - they need to be strong --

someone once told me the key to writing a good k'immie was being able to kill him --- and i can see that - it's hard to let go of a really great character -- probably why the nameless ensigns on Star Trek die on the away missions -- no charcter development involved ---

Diamond9697 · 26th September 2001, 06:04 PM

that's true...I always end up liking my villians and then have a hard time killing them off...maybe that's why I don't ever finish a story *shrugs* guess I'm not the bad boy defender for nothing
:rolly2:

Highlander II · 27th September 2001, 01:00 PM

well, like for Toronto Jarod - i created a baddie, and i didn't really have a problem killing him -- he was mean, but not very strong - he was more like Mr. Raines - kinda psychological power, not physical power --- of course, that story turned into more of a spoof, so my baddie could be a bit more hokey, i guess --

i'm better at writing the pre-established characters anyway -

i'm pretty good w/ Mr. Lyle from the Pretender, and i can do Kronos -- but making up my own bad guy? not so good at that ---

takes practice i guess ---- maybe someday ----

Diamond9697 · 2nd October 2001, 07:11 PM

ah yes...the land of someday...I know it well

Highlander II · 2nd October 2001, 09:06 PM

so - have you ever been there? to the land of 'someday'??

Diamond9697 · 3rd October 2001, 02:24 AM

not as far as fic is concerned...I have yet to reach that fabled place...you know...."someday" I'll finish this story....or "someday" I'll figure out where I'm going with this.....that type of thing

Highlander II · 3rd October 2001, 04:17 PM

ah -- so we are travelling the same road? the road to 'someday' -

let me know when we get there!!

i still need to work on my villain creation ---

perhaps we should work on that here? how to create a good villain ------

Diamond9697 · 4th October 2001, 05:19 AM

that's a good idea...well...let's see....a good villian has to be somewhat mysterious I think...he needs to have motives that might not be evident...at least at the beginning...and he needs to be somewhat sympathetic I think...

Highlander II · 4th October 2001, 04:40 PM

all good villain qualities ---

unless of course you have a villain who's just plain evil - then you need none of that --- he just has to have his evil motives and his desire to succeed in his own plan (insert she/her wherever necessary as you choose)

Diamond9697 · 5th October 2001, 12:08 AM

yeah...I'm bad at created that type of villian...they are always way to one-dimensional as far as I'm concerned and I end up either rewriting it or scrapping the whole thing

Highlander II · 5th October 2001, 04:50 PM

ah - but therein lies the challenge --

writing an evil villain who isn't one-dimensional -- just b/c the villain is evil doesn't mean s/he has to be flat ----

Diamond9697 · 6th October 2001, 03:34 AM

yeah...not like thier wasn't enough of those in the series...

23rd September 2001, 04:39 AM	#91 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	we could...but who would be interested in posting on it?

23rd September 2001, 02:39 PM	#92 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	yeah- i know --- but some guys might be interested -- anyway -- villains -- hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm anyone else find it's harder to create villains that it is to create good guys?? my k'immies usually end up being kinda wimpy or over-bearing - don't really know why tho ----

24th September 2001, 12:48 AM	#93 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	yeah...villians are a pain to create...mine are always so melodramatic...but I'm working on that...and the ones I'm using in my newest story already have established personalities so it's a little easier

26th September 2001, 12:17 PM	#94 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	well, yes, the pre-established baddies are easier to work with -- and i still can't understand why my baddies always end up kinda weird/wussy -- dunno - they need to be strong -- someone once told me the key to writing a good k'immie was being able to kill him --- and i can see that - it's hard to let go of a really great character -- probably why the nameless ensigns on Star Trek die on the away missions -- no charcter development involved ---

26th September 2001, 06:04 PM	#95 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	that's true...I always end up liking my villians and then have a hard time killing them off...maybe that's why I don't ever finish a story shrugs guess I'm not the bad boy defender for nothing :rolly2:

27th September 2001, 01:00 PM	#96 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	well, like for Toronto Jarod - i created a baddie, and i didn't really have a problem killing him -- he was mean, but not very strong - he was more like Mr. Raines - kinda psychological power, not physical power --- of course, that story turned into more of a spoof, so my baddie could be a bit more hokey, i guess -- i'm better at writing the pre-established characters anyway - i'm pretty good w/ Mr. Lyle from the Pretender, and i can do Kronos -- but making up my own bad guy? not so good at that --- takes practice i guess ---- maybe someday ----

2nd October 2001, 07:11 PM	#97 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	ah yes...the land of someday...I know it well

2nd October 2001, 09:06 PM	#98 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	so - have you ever been there? to the land of 'someday'??

3rd October 2001, 02:24 AM	#99 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	not as far as fic is concerned...I have yet to reach that fabled place...you know...."someday" I'll finish this story....or "someday" I'll figure out where I'm going with this.....that type of thing

3rd October 2001, 04:17 PM	#100 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	ah -- so we are travelling the same road? the road to 'someday' - let me know when we get there!! i still need to work on my villain creation --- perhaps we should work on that here? how to create a good villain ------

4th October 2001, 05:19 AM	#101 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	that's a good idea...well...let's see....a good villian has to be somewhat mysterious I think...he needs to have motives that might not be evident...at least at the beginning...and he needs to be somewhat sympathetic I think...

4th October 2001, 04:40 PM	#102 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	all good villain qualities --- unless of course you have a villain who's just plain evil - then you need none of that --- he just has to have his evil motives and his desire to succeed in his own plan (insert she/her wherever necessary as you choose)

5th October 2001, 12:08 AM	#103 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	yeah...I'm bad at created that type of villian...they are always way to one-dimensional as far as I'm concerned and I end up either rewriting it or scrapping the whole thing

5th October 2001, 04:50 PM	#104 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	ah - but therein lies the challenge -- writing an evil villain who isn't one-dimensional -- just b/c the villain is evil doesn't mean s/he has to be flat ----

6th October 2001, 03:34 AM	#105 (permalink)
Diamond9697 Lookin Good Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,872	yeah...not like thier wasn't enough of those in the series...