Connor/Duncan: Differences - Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums

markpud · 6th March 2001, 10:37 PM

I think Duncan is a more "good" guy than Conner, and his strong sense of morality/chivalry is a common thread in the series... Conner has more of an edge, he'll do what's needed to get done what needs doing...

MythingLink · 6th March 2001, 11:16 PM

Connor's been at it longer than Duncan. It's possible that this is the reason you see an edge to him that Duncan doesn't have right now. Also because Connor became immortal at a different time in history. I don't know that much about the history of the time so really couldn't say about that.

There is also the way they were both introduced into the Game. Ramirez sought out Connor and taught him everything he needed to know. Connor sought out Duncan and taught him possibly a little differently because they were kinsmen.

I think Connor is a little more realistic about the Game than Duncan. Afterall Duncan tried to hide from it twice that I know of whereas Connor seemed to try to meet it head on and get it over with. I think Connor always felt incredibly cheated out of life since he was immortal and had fallen in love before he found out about it or the consequences of it.

Cheers,

markpud · 7th March 2001, 05:33 PM

Its true I don't think that Duncan had so many ties to his "mortal" life, he certainly didn't have anyone that he's watched grow old and die like Conner and Heather.

Duncan has tried to hide from the game at times, like the hold island he has retreated to, and the fact that at hte start of the tv series, he is living as a mortal with Tessa, and did not want to be brought back into the "game".

MythingLink · 8th March 2001, 10:27 AM

I've split this thread since we kind of got off track.

The one thing that is kind of interesting to see is how both Connor and Duncan have approached immortality and The Game.

As I said, Conner might be a little more realistic about it and its affects on their lives whereas Duncan, at times, seems to be in denial about it. (Except to tell Tess that he is immortal, but not about what it really means.)

Cheers,

Highlander II · 13th June 2001, 01:03 PM

Personally, i feel that Connor has a more realistic approach to most things -- he has a sense of morality - he just doesn't apply it to 'The Game' the way Duncan does -- (Duncan's a boyscout) -- Connor seeks out fights, where Duncan waits for ppl to come to him ---

not that Connor is a headhunter in the 'true' sense of the word - he just is a bit more aggressive --

tho - Duncan was much more of a fighter before he met Darius and Sean Burns -- he 'mellowed' out after he met them --

i don't think Connor ever met anyone like those men - Kastagir is about the only friend we ever hear anything about from Connor --

Marriage is another topic -- Connor was married a couple times (something like 4 if you count all the movies) and Duncan can never quite figure out how one is to court and keep a wife -- the closest he came was Tessa -- and she was shot right after he asked her --

other thoughts on that topic??

Highlander II

Morrolan · 13th June 2001, 03:01 PM

Actually, they're kind of like two separate sides of the same coin... specifically as far as The Game was concerned... Connor was more of a "let's beat the snot out of the guy until he makes a mistake" type, while Duncan was more of "let's wait until the guy makes a mistake, then blitz him" type, particularly with regards to their fighting styles...

Highlander II · 13th June 2001, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by Morrolan
Actually, they're kind of like two separate sides of the same coin... specifically as far as The Game was concerned... Connor was more of a "let's beat the snot out of the guy until he makes a mistake" type, while Duncan was more of "let's wait until the guy makes a mistake, then blitz him" type, particularly with regards to their fighting styles...

they are to a degree --

but, i guess your opinion of their fighting styles will be dramatically affected by your opinion of the 2 men -

i really like Duncan in the 1st 3 seasons or so -- but then something happened and he changed (course, this could have a lot to do w/ the writers too - dunno all the details)

but, i loved Connor from the very beginning -- ( a friend got me hooked on Highlander and i've been a fan ever since )

he's my all-time fave -- tho he's tied w/ Methos --

H2

Åsgard Shal · 13th June 2001, 04:50 PM

I love Connor period....................:blush:

markpud · 13th June 2001, 08:47 PM

it does seem that they are similar and yet very different at the same time...Conner has had a rougher life, but also had more emotional attachments, his love for Heather is still as strong in the modern day as the day they met.. Duncan has never had that kind of relationship as you say HII, to watch her grow old and die, it must have a huge impact..

I do like Duncan though..i agree with the boy scout analysis to a degree, but its mainly because with the TV show, they needed a "good guy" to fight off the "bad" immortals who came along each week, whereas i nthe original film, Conner knew the end was upon him, so the attitudes were a little different...

Highlander II · 18th June 2001, 11:46 AM

k - i'm gonna toss this -- i think the main reason that i like Connor better is b/c i like Christopher Lambert - i don't really like Adrian Paul - so, i have a hard time liking his character --- (usually my strong dislike comes across as a reason to have a disagreement - it's just more fun that way -- arguing which is the better MacLeod --- gotta have fun!!)

i will say - that i think it's good that Connor and Duncan are different, if they had made the series w/ a Connor- clone - it wouldn't have been as good - the characters need to be different or the 'stickler' movie fans would have been terribly upset ---

H2

markpud · 21st June 2001, 03:15 PM

i like Adrian Paul, i've only seen him in highlander tho, dunno what else he's done... i think Highlander is one of the reasons i've grown my hair so long

Highlander II · 21st June 2001, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by markpud
i like Adrian Paul, i've only seen him in highlander tho, dunno what else he's done... i think Highlander is one of the reasons i've grown my hair so long

don't bother watching him in anything else - he's not good - he can only really be Duncan MacLeod - he doesn't have the depth that Chris has -- he's bland as far as actors go -- he doesn't do well as any other character --

H2

markpud · 21st June 2001, 04:14 PM

fair enough

but i do like him in Highlander...

Highlander II · 21st June 2001, 04:39 PM

he's alright through about season3 - then something happens and they start writing Duncan all funky or something -- not sure exactly what happened --

H2

markpud · 28th June 2001, 10:16 AM

funky

maybe it's Methos' influence that screws him up??

6th March 2001, 10:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	I think Duncan is a more "good" guy than Conner, and his strong sense of morality/chivalry is a common thread in the series... Conner has more of an edge, he'll do what's needed to get done what needs doing...

6th March 2001, 11:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
MythingLink First Prime of ASciFi Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,798	Connor's been at it longer than Duncan. It's possible that this is the reason you see an edge to him that Duncan doesn't have right now. Also because Connor became immortal at a different time in history. I don't know that much about the history of the time so really couldn't say about that. There is also the way they were both introduced into the Game. Ramirez sought out Connor and taught him everything he needed to know. Connor sought out Duncan and taught him possibly a little differently because they were kinsmen. I think Connor is a little more realistic about the Game than Duncan. Afterall Duncan tried to hide from it twice that I know of whereas Connor seemed to try to meet it head on and get it over with. I think Connor always felt incredibly cheated out of life since he was immortal and had fallen in love before he found out about it or the consequences of it. Cheers,

7th March 2001, 05:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	Its true I don't think that Duncan had so many ties to his "mortal" life, he certainly didn't have anyone that he's watched grow old and die like Conner and Heather. Duncan has tried to hide from the game at times, like the hold island he has retreated to, and the fact that at hte start of the tv series, he is living as a mortal with Tessa, and did not want to be brought back into the "game".

8th March 2001, 10:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
MythingLink First Prime of ASciFi Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,798	I've split this thread since we kind of got off track. The one thing that is kind of interesting to see is how both Connor and Duncan have approached immortality and The Game. As I said, Conner might be a little more realistic about it and its affects on their lives whereas Duncan, at times, seems to be in denial about it. (Except to tell Tess that he is immortal, but not about what it really means.) Cheers,

13th June 2001, 01:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	Personally, i feel that Connor has a more realistic approach to most things -- he has a sense of morality - he just doesn't apply it to 'The Game' the way Duncan does -- (Duncan's a boyscout) -- Connor seeks out fights, where Duncan waits for ppl to come to him --- not that Connor is a headhunter in the 'true' sense of the word - he just is a bit more aggressive -- tho - Duncan was much more of a fighter before he met Darius and Sean Burns -- he 'mellowed' out after he met them -- i don't think Connor ever met anyone like those men - Kastagir is about the only friend we ever hear anything about from Connor -- Marriage is another topic -- Connor was married a couple times (something like 4 if you count all the movies) and Duncan can never quite figure out how one is to court and keep a wife -- the closest he came was Tessa -- and she was shot right after he asked her -- other thoughts on that topic?? Highlander II

13th June 2001, 03:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Morrolan ÅRÅ Join Date: May 2001 Location: Central IL, US Posts: 41	Actually, they're kind of like two separate sides of the same coin... specifically as far as The Game was concerned... Connor was more of a "let's beat the snot out of the guy until he makes a mistake" type, while Duncan was more of "let's wait until the guy makes a mistake, then blitz him" type, particularly with regards to their fighting styles...

13th June 2001, 04:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Åsgard Shal Whatever Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 10	I love Connor period....................:blush:

13th June 2001, 08:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	it does seem that they are similar and yet very different at the same time...Conner has had a rougher life, but also had more emotional attachments, his love for Heather is still as strong in the modern day as the day they met.. Duncan has never had that kind of relationship as you say HII, to watch her grow old and die, it must have a huge impact.. I do like Duncan though..i agree with the boy scout analysis to a degree, but its mainly because with the TV show, they needed a "good guy" to fight off the "bad" immortals who came along each week, whereas i nthe original film, Conner knew the end was upon him, so the attitudes were a little different...

18th June 2001, 11:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	k - i'm gonna toss this -- i think the main reason that i like Connor better is b/c i like Christopher Lambert - i don't really like Adrian Paul - so, i have a hard time liking his character --- (usually my strong dislike comes across as a reason to have a disagreement - it's just more fun that way -- arguing which is the better MacLeod --- gotta have fun!!) i will say - that i think it's good that Connor and Duncan are different, if they had made the series w/ a Connor- clone - it wouldn't have been as good - the characters need to be different or the 'stickler' movie fans would have been terribly upset --- H2

21st June 2001, 03:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	i like Adrian Paul, i've only seen him in highlander tho, dunno what else he's done... i think Highlander is one of the reasons i've grown my hair so long

21st June 2001, 04:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	fair enough but i do like him in Highlander...

21st June 2001, 04:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,482	he's alright through about season3 - then something happens and they start writing Duncan all funky or something -- not sure exactly what happened -- H2

28th June 2001, 10:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
markpud Super-Mod to the gods Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: with Buffy, in Manchester, England... Posts: 4,732	funky maybe it's Methos' influence that screws him up??