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C Of K · 14th July 2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by unclejack

Regardless as to the machine being destroyed that doesn't mean they can't just rebuild a new machine.

Actually there was likely no way to build another time machine. Remember Skynet is a computer defense system.

According to Reese the machine defense grid was smashed. I'm certain the defense grid was essential for the machines to continue the war, because Reese clearly says, "we'd won. Taking out Connor then would make no difference. Skynet had to wipe out his entire existence."

Watch the interrogation scene again. Really analyze what's being said, because these are all the details about the end of the war that Reese didn't tell Sarah.

Remember, the terminator went through the time machine first. Sending it through was a last ditch effort for the machines to save themselves. If there were very many machines left, they would have sent more than one terminator to ensure their continued existense, I'm sure. This was why the war should have been decided in 1984.

Anything else doesn't fit perfectly into a completely coherent story, although I did like Terminator 2 and 3.

It's also sort of funny that in the other movies only one terminator/terminatrix antagonist was sent. That really makes no sense if the war was still going and they still had time travel capabilities, and a lot of resources.

In the original, I think Arnold was the last soldier of a loosing war effort...

ravenus · 16th July 2007, 08:47 AM

Awesome justifications C of K, and a fitting answer to all the "T2 was great but T3 shouldn't have been made" whines. I personally thought T3 was a very entertaining movie and surprisingly poignant in parts. Maybe I'm naive but I really didn't expect it to end the way it did, considering its summer blockbuster origins.

C Of K · 16th July 2007, 06:40 PM

Yeah, I enjoyed it.

For them to continue making more Terminator movies, Judgment Day had to happen. The next few should be interesting, and different. I look forward to those, I do.

Crazihors · 5th September 2007, 01:59 PM

There are a few points about T1, such as REece's comment, byut there's a lot more in T2 to say T3 shouldn't have been made - like the entire destruvction of skynet....

C Of K · 6th September 2007, 05:12 AM

I'd still say the biggest points are in T1.
If T2 is such a valid movie, the Machines would have sent more than 1 terminator back to kill John Connor. That they sent only one terminator is a weak point in the plot for T2 and T3. This turned the series more into a display of superhero antics instead of the man vs machine story that was the original premise.

Only 1 terminator was sent in T1 because going back in time was a last ditch effort by the machines before the time machine was destroyed, and the war was won by the humans.

Huttman · 6th September 2007, 05:36 AM

I just got hired for T4! Just kidding. Self portrait of me as the terminator. Whether T2 or T3 were plausible or not, they were still good movies. The point in T3 about not being able to avoid Judgement Day but surviving it, very interesting...

ravenus · 7th September 2007, 05:31 PM

Hey nice artwork there

Huttman · 7th September 2007, 08:01 PM

Thank You! It's kind of a gruesome picture and I do not like my image in photos very much, but I think it turned out well. It is a screen capture from T3 with my pic in place of Arnolds. I cut out sections of my face and super-imposed it on an endoskeleton pic I found and then after some bloody details I pasted it on the screen capture. I think it was a filter in Ulead PhotoImpact that I used to make the 'graphic novel' look to it - which made the picture really what it is. Thanks again.

C Of K · 7th September 2007, 08:19 PM

Huttman for Governor! Huttman for Governor!!! (ok, now that I've gotten my quota for silliness this week) Great job Huttman. It did turn out well. Whoever knew you could be so dark natured?

Huttman · 8th September 2007, 06:30 AM

I could. I just do my best to head those things off before they surface. But all seriousness aside, the model number I play in the movie never was quite 'right' for cyberdyne, rather clumsy too. In the picture I was not shot to look like that, I fell down. So they had me doing some menial tasks that I found quite human in nature, which got me curious as to why we were trying to irradicate the humans in the first place---well I don't want to give too much of the plot away...

Thank you for the compliment!

16th July 2007, 08:47 AM	#92 (permalink)
ravenus Heretic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: India Posts: 1,730	Re: Terminator Three??? Awesome justifications C of K, and a fitting answer to all the "T2 was great but T3 shouldn't have been made" whines. I personally thought T3 was a very entertaining movie and surprisingly poignant in parts. Maybe I'm naive but I really didn't expect it to end the way it did, considering its summer blockbuster origins.

16th July 2007, 06:40 PM	#93 (permalink)
C Of K Sunset colored eyes Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Posts: 924	Re: Terminator Three??? Yeah, I enjoyed it. For them to continue making more Terminator movies, Judgment Day had to happen. The next few should be interesting, and different. I look forward to those, I do.

5th September 2007, 01:59 PM	#94 (permalink)
Crazihors Tenebris Noctis Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Durham Posts: 77	Re: Terminator Three??? There are a few points about T1, such as REece's comment, byut there's a lot more in T2 to say T3 shouldn't have been made - like the entire destruvction of skynet....

6th September 2007, 05:12 AM	#95 (permalink)
C Of K Sunset colored eyes Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Posts: 924	Re: Terminator Three??? I'd still say the biggest points are in T1. If T2 is such a valid movie, the Machines would have sent more than 1 terminator back to kill John Connor. That they sent only one terminator is a weak point in the plot for T2 and T3. This turned the series more into a display of superhero antics instead of the man vs machine story that was the original premise. Only 1 terminator was sent in T1 because going back in time was a last ditch effort by the machines before the time machine was destroyed, and the war was won by the humans.

6th September 2007, 05:36 AM	#96 (permalink)
Huttman only differs in your mind Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 451	Re: Terminator Three??? I just got hired for T4! Just kidding. Self portrait of me as the terminator. Whether T2 or T3 were plausible or not, they were still good movies. The point in T3 about not being able to avoid Judgement Day but surviving it, very interesting... Attached Thumbnails

7th September 2007, 05:31 PM	#97 (permalink)
ravenus Heretic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: India Posts: 1,730	Re: Terminator Three??? Hey nice artwork there

7th September 2007, 08:01 PM	#98 (permalink)
Huttman only differs in your mind Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 451	Re: Terminator Three??? Thank You! It's kind of a gruesome picture and I do not like my image in photos very much, but I think it turned out well. It is a screen capture from T3 with my pic in place of Arnolds. I cut out sections of my face and super-imposed it on an endoskeleton pic I found and then after some bloody details I pasted it on the screen capture. I think it was a filter in Ulead PhotoImpact that I used to make the 'graphic novel' look to it - which made the picture really what it is. Thanks again.

7th September 2007, 08:19 PM	#99 (permalink)
C Of K Sunset colored eyes Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Posts: 924	Re: Terminator Three??? Huttman for Governor! Huttman for Governor!!! (ok, now that I've gotten my quota for silliness this week) Great job Huttman. It did turn out well. Whoever knew you could be so dark natured?

8th September 2007, 06:30 AM	#100 (permalink)
Huttman only differs in your mind Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 451	Re: Terminator Three??? I could. I just do my best to head those things off before they surface. But all seriousness aside, the model number I play in the movie never was quite 'right' for cyberdyne, rather clumsy too. In the picture I was not shot to look like that, I fell down. So they had me doing some menial tasks that I found quite human in nature, which got me curious as to why we were trying to irradicate the humans in the first place---well I don't want to give too much of the plot away... Thank you for the compliment!