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PTeppic · 26th June 2002, 07:19 PM

It does obviously take SOME extra power to reach the Ida galaxy, but since the gates are going via alternate dimensions, in addition to our own, we can't really make linear assumptions about distance through those dimensions.

Theoretically the Ida galaxy could be closer through those other dimensions than the moon, OR 1000 times further than the relative distance in our own dimensions. We simply don't know.

Dr.Jackson · 27th June 2002, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by PTeppic
Not necessarily....
There are no large power sources for the mirror on P3R-232, so it can't take THAT much energy.

But as we've seen from Learning Curve, a very powerful Naqhadah reactor can be pretty small, so why can't an amazingly advanced race create a super-powerful and yet small power source for the mirror?

It could, however, be that the same amount of energy needed to engage the 8th chevron would be the same amount needed to engage the 9th chevron.

Just a thought.

PTeppic · 27th June 2002, 07:24 AM

Very true.

This (trans-dimensional travel) is using physics which is barely out of the theoretical stage, so we have no real figures to use. When it comes to this issue, unless the script-writers decide to help us out, we are going to (probably) have to leave it as "we don't and can't know".

leprykawn · 28th June 2002, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by PTeppic
The mechanism of how the 8th chevron works is quite blurry. Extra power was supplied to the gate, and the seventh glyph was NOT the point of origin.

Are you sure about this???

Does this mean that the use of the 8th Chevron makes the point-of-origin glyph variable as a function of whether you use an eight chevron???

Dr.Jackson · 28th June 2002, 10:41 PM

I'd have to agree with PTeppic, the mechanism of how the 8th chevron works is not really clear.

The Point Of Origin glyph is a constant, it is the number of glyphs preceding it that is a variable, be it six or seven, or even eight. The P.O.O. glyph has to be the last one entered in order for the final connection, or calculation to be made.
Therefor, only the position, not the function of the P.O.O. glyph is a variable.

Or am I making no sense?

Ko'or Oragahn · 29th June 2002, 02:44 AM

WOuld be nice to see an episode where the nine chevrons would be dialed from a place of which we alredy know its POO glyph, like from Earth for example.

PTeppic · 29th June 2002, 01:15 PM

[Since you asked...]

The position of the P.O.O. is always as the last chevron, as stated by Dr.Jackson. If dialling normally, it is 7th, if going the extra distance, with an outside power source (for the SGC gate, anyway) it goes as the 8th.

It is entirely possible, given the interaction/function of the DHD, that trying to dial the Othalla sequence from a DHD controlled gate would actually work "normally", and not need "extra" power, i.e. the DHD may be able to source that much extra. We just don't know.

[The possible use of the P.O.O. as an end-marker for non-DHD dialling is discussed in another thread.]

Cammo · 15th March 2008, 04:52 AM

Hey newbie here and randomly found this post while looking for sound effects.

The having more than 9 chevron idea wont work (10 11 12 chevrons) as the Stargate itself only has 9 lockable chevrons on it.

The last chevron entered when dialing the Asguard planet was the point of origin. This would mean the 9th chevron will be the point of origin (a way of saying the dialing sequence is finished now dial the planet i want).

This leads me to think it's an additional distance calculation.

In response to a previous post about a wormhole destablising (e.g. dialing somewhere that doesn't have a Stargate, or at least that's how i read it) this would be possible if the travelers were ascended as energy would remain intact.

Remember the episode where they bypassed dialing procedures to get a lock on a planet resulting in the sun collapsing? They sent a super heavy element to the planet and shut the gate down prematurely. Sam says something along the lines of 'in the case of a human, that would be really bad. in the case of an element it shouldn't be a problem'. This is referring to the fact the Stargate dismantles the traveler and reintegrates them once they've reached the other side. So maybe the 9th chevron could be used in conjunction with ascended beings?

Just thought I'd throw that one in the mix

Carbonoid · 28th April 2008, 09:27 AM

Could'nt the 9th chevron be used as a function key? like a keyboards SHIFT button turning each symbol on the gate into a differant symbol, that would allow for more gates to be dialled.

Plus people keep refering to the "six point to pin point a location in space" the same can be done with eight. Imagine two four sided pyramid stuck together at the bases, it gives you a 3D diamond shape which can be used to pin point a location in space.

15th March 2008, 04:52 AM	#83 (permalink)
Cammo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia, Victoria Posts: 1	Re: 9th Chevron Hey newbie here and randomly found this post while looking for sound effects. The having more than 9 chevron idea wont work (10 11 12 chevrons) as the Stargate itself only has 9 lockable chevrons on it. The last chevron entered when dialing the Asguard planet was the point of origin. This would mean the 9th chevron will be the point of origin (a way of saying the dialing sequence is finished now dial the planet i want). This leads me to think it's an additional distance calculation. In response to a previous post about a wormhole destablising (e.g. dialing somewhere that doesn't have a Stargate, or at least that's how i read it) this would be possible if the travelers were ascended as energy would remain intact. Remember the episode where they bypassed dialing procedures to get a lock on a planet resulting in the sun collapsing? They sent a super heavy element to the planet and shut the gate down prematurely. Sam says something along the lines of 'in the case of a human, that would be really bad. in the case of an element it shouldn't be a problem'. This is referring to the fact the Stargate dismantles the traveler and reintegrates them once they've reached the other side. So maybe the 9th chevron could be used in conjunction with ascended beings? Just thought I'd throw that one in the mix

28th April 2008, 09:27 AM	#84 (permalink)
Carbonoid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Lanarkshire Posts: 1	Re: 9th Chevron Could'nt the 9th chevron be used as a function key? like a keyboards SHIFT button turning each symbol on the gate into a differant symbol, that would allow for more gates to be dialled. Plus people keep refering to the "six point to pin point a location in space" the same can be done with eight. Imagine two four sided pyramid stuck together at the bases, it gives you a 3D diamond shape which can be used to pin point a location in space. Last edited by Carbonoid; 28th April 2008 at 09:40 AM.

26th June 2002, 07:19 PM	#76 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,073	It does obviously take SOME extra power to reach the Ida galaxy, but since the gates are going via alternate dimensions, in addition to our own, we can't really make linear assumptions about distance through those dimensions. Theoretically the Ida galaxy could be closer through those other dimensions than the moon, OR 1000 times further than the relative distance in our own dimensions. We simply don't know.

27th June 2002, 07:24 AM	#78 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,073	Very true. This (trans-dimensional travel) is using physics which is barely out of the theoretical stage, so we have no real figures to use. When it comes to this issue, unless the script-writers decide to help us out, we are going to (probably) have to leave it as "we don't and can't know".

28th June 2002, 10:41 PM	#80 (permalink)
Dr.Jackson Certified Space Monkey Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Livingston, Scotland Posts: 664	I'd have to agree with PTeppic, the mechanism of how the 8th chevron works is not really clear. The Point Of Origin glyph is a constant, it is the number of glyphs preceding it that is a variable, be it six or seven, or even eight. The P.O.O. glyph has to be the last one entered in order for the final connection, or calculation to be made. Therefor, only the position, not the function of the P.O.O. glyph is a variable. Or am I making no sense?

29th June 2002, 02:44 AM	#81 (permalink)
Ko'or Oragahn Advanced Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: France Posts: 125	WOuld be nice to see an episode where the nine chevrons would be dialed from a place of which we alredy know its POO glyph, like from Earth for example.

29th June 2002, 01:15 PM	#82 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,073	[Since you asked...] The position of the P.O.O. is always as the last chevron, as stated by Dr.Jackson. If dialling normally, it is 7th, if going the extra distance, with an outside power source (for the SGC gate, anyway) it goes as the 8th. It is entirely possible, given the interaction/function of the DHD, that trying to dial the Othalla sequence from a DHD controlled gate would actually work "normally", and not need "extra" power, i.e. the DHD may be able to source that much extra. We just don't know. [The possible use of the P.O.O. as an end-marker for non-DHD dialling is discussed in another thread.]