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PTeppic · 4th March 2002, 07:07 PM

As I hav eposted on another thread (where I think I repeated my own question!), MS Encarta states the Milky Way is about 100,000 light years in diameter.

[Light Year = 5.8 million million miles]

Jedispara · 4th March 2002, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shazstar
I did an assessment task for physics last year on Edwin Hubble, and if you look him up online there are HEAPS of addressess and links which refer to his work on the expanding universe. I am fairly sure I remember, one of these give a ~value for the rate of expansion and current size.

can you find that out, please???

PTeppic · 4th March 2002, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jedispara
can you find that out, please???

I think the information about the links was a prompt for people to do their OWN research

Jedispara · 4th March 2002, 10:19 PM

okok... sorry i'm kinda busy here. doing reshearch and posting....

shazstar · 30th April 2002, 10:37 AM

Sorry Jedispara and Pteppic, forgot all about it.

Ok, basically, I have looked up a few sites, and there is one i just found that explains alot, also relating to a few other theories used in some other threads.

http://www.sciam.com/specialissues/0...98peebles.html

This next one is even better, from the same source, but gives some values.

http://www.sciam.com/specialissues/0...8freedman.html

Also on these two there a various links.

shazstar · 30th April 2002, 10:41 AM

Also on the Scientific American, I ran a search that cam back with a few results worth checking out, I just did a basic, "size of the milky way" search.

http://www.sciam.com/index.cfm

Ko'or Oragahn · 13th May 2002, 12:15 AM

Yub yub !

Sorry, but I have to get back about the 8th chevron.

I don't really know if each HDD located on planets within the milkyway network has the same glyphs placed in the same manner, but how can an 8th chevron redirect to a place outside the galaxy since the glyphs refer to constellations belonging to the milkyway ?

Is this a bridge that must be interpreted as an entry/exit vector between two galaxies ?

I'm fairly lost.

Note : I didn't see the episode that involved the 8th chevron. I don't even know what the door looked like.

PTeppic · 13th May 2002, 07:22 AM

The mechanism of how the 8th chevron works is quite blurry. Extra power was supplied to the gate, and the seventh glyph was NOT the point of origin. So, technically, since the 8th WAS the point-of-origin, it is the 7th which is the "distance vector", or whatever it is.

There is much debate, but perhaps insuffiucient canon evidence to say how it works.

shazstar · 14th May 2002, 10:25 AM

It has been debated that the use of the 8th chevron increases the radius of the "gate" signal range (note: see thread Gates - all in contact?') and possibly, as pteppic suggested, includes an extra distance vector to theoretically bridge a gap between galaxies or out of radius gate systems.

Jedispara · 15th May 2002, 09:35 PM

well i mean what other options are there??? i mean it could be a gate into other universes... but i mean what esle is there?

Shaun · 16th May 2002, 05:39 AM

There are probably millions of ideas and concepts that our brains can not comprehend at this point in time (and indeed may never will.) But that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Tiberius · 16th May 2002, 04:45 PM

Seriously, there would need to be a near-infinite energy source for any of these theories to work. Controlled time-travel? Alternate Universes? If It takes so much energy to dial an 8th Chevron, how much will it take to dial nine AND break through the time barrier/alt. universe barier?

PTeppic · 16th May 2002, 06:37 PM

Not necessarily.
Since we don't really have much current physics evidence to say how much energy is required to cross between the current 4 dimensions into the other 7/11/etc (depending on current theory) of the regular universe, it is difficult to say if the SG-1 universe is any different.

Similarly who can possibly say how much it takes to find an alternate universe. There are no large power sources for the mirror on P3R-232, so it can't take THAT much energy.

Jedispara · 16th May 2002, 09:20 PM

good point...

Unas · 26th June 2002, 05:22 PM

The Milky Way galaxy is about 100,000 light years in diameter. The nearest galaxy (Andromeda) is about 2,200,000 light years away. So it makes sense that since the nearest galaxy is over 20 times farther, it would take at least 20 times as much energy to dial other galaxies (which, if I remember right, is pretty close to the amount of energy required to dial with chevron #8).

Continuing with this line of reasoning, the nearest galactic cluster/supercluster is the Virgo Cluster, somewhere between 50 million and 60 million light years away. If chevron #9 is used as yet another distance calculation to dial other clusters and superclusters, as suggested earlier, then this chevron must require at least 500 or 600 times as much energy as a typical 7-chevron dialing.

4th March 2002, 07:07 PM	#61 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,082	As I hav eposted on another thread (where I think I repeated my own question!), MS Encarta states the Milky Way is about 100,000 light years in diameter. [Light Year = 5.8 million million miles]

4th March 2002, 10:19 PM	#64 (permalink)
Jedispara {IPPH} Trade CO Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,890	okok... sorry i'm kinda busy here. doing reshearch and posting....

30th April 2002, 10:37 AM	#65 (permalink)
shazstar Flygirl Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,213	Sorry Jedispara and Pteppic, forgot all about it. Ok, basically, I have looked up a few sites, and there is one i just found that explains alot, also relating to a few other theories used in some other threads. http://www.sciam.com/specialissues/0...98peebles.html This next one is even better, from the same source, but gives some values. http://www.sciam.com/specialissues/0...8freedman.html Also on these two there a various links.

30th April 2002, 10:41 AM	#66 (permalink)
shazstar Flygirl Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,213	Also on the Scientific American, I ran a search that cam back with a few results worth checking out, I just did a basic, "size of the milky way" search. http://www.sciam.com/index.cfm

13th May 2002, 12:15 AM	#67 (permalink)
Ko'or Oragahn Advanced Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: France Posts: 125	Yub yub ! Sorry, but I have to get back about the 8th chevron. I don't really know if each HDD located on planets within the milkyway network has the same glyphs placed in the same manner, but how can an 8th chevron redirect to a place outside the galaxy since the glyphs refer to constellations belonging to the milkyway ? Is this a bridge that must be interpreted as an entry/exit vector between two galaxies ? I'm fairly lost. Note : I didn't see the episode that involved the 8th chevron. I don't even know what the door looked like.

13th May 2002, 07:22 AM	#68 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,082	The mechanism of how the 8th chevron works is quite blurry. Extra power was supplied to the gate, and the seventh glyph was NOT the point of origin. So, technically, since the 8th WAS the point-of-origin, it is the 7th which is the "distance vector", or whatever it is. There is much debate, but perhaps insuffiucient canon evidence to say how it works.

14th May 2002, 10:25 AM	#69 (permalink)
shazstar Flygirl Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,213	It has been debated that the use of the 8th chevron increases the radius of the "gate" signal range (note: see thread Gates - all in contact?') and possibly, as pteppic suggested, includes an extra distance vector to theoretically bridge a gap between galaxies or out of radius gate systems.

15th May 2002, 09:35 PM	#70 (permalink)
Jedispara {IPPH} Trade CO Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,890	well i mean what other options are there??? i mean it could be a gate into other universes... but i mean what esle is there?

16th May 2002, 05:39 AM	#71 (permalink)
Shaun R.I.P. Ashes Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 1,798	There are probably millions of ideas and concepts that our brains can not comprehend at this point in time (and indeed may never will.) But that doesn't mean they don't exist.

16th May 2002, 04:45 PM	#72 (permalink)
Tiberius Fleet Admiral Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 282	Seriously, there would need to be a near-infinite energy source for any of these theories to work. Controlled time-travel? Alternate Universes? If It takes so much energy to dial an 8th Chevron, how much will it take to dial nine AND break through the time barrier/alt. universe barier?

16th May 2002, 06:37 PM	#73 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,082	Not necessarily. Since we don't really have much current physics evidence to say how much energy is required to cross between the current 4 dimensions into the other 7/11/etc (depending on current theory) of the regular universe, it is difficult to say if the SG-1 universe is any different. Similarly who can possibly say how much it takes to find an alternate universe. There are no large power sources for the mirror on P3R-232, so it can't take THAT much energy.

16th May 2002, 09:20 PM	#74 (permalink)
Jedispara {IPPH} Trade CO Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,890	good point...

26th June 2002, 05:22 PM	#75 (permalink)
Unas Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3	The Milky Way galaxy is about 100,000 light years in diameter. The nearest galaxy (Andromeda) is about 2,200,000 light years away. So it makes sense that since the nearest galaxy is over 20 times farther, it would take at least 20 times as much energy to dial other galaxies (which, if I remember right, is pretty close to the amount of energy required to dial with chevron #8). Continuing with this line of reasoning, the nearest galactic cluster/supercluster is the Virgo Cluster, somewhere between 50 million and 60 million light years away. If chevron #9 is used as yet another distance calculation to dial other clusters and superclusters, as suggested earlier, then this chevron must require at least 500 or 600 times as much energy as a typical 7-chevron dialing.