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Old 20th June 2007, 03:05 PM   #241 (permalink)
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If The Fifth Element is sf, then I don't see why Star Wars can't be. Besides, space opera is generally considered a sub-genre of science fiction - as, in fact, is science fantasy.

Not sure I'd call Dr Strangelove sf , though...
Okay, in that case I'll include SW4 among my favorite movies ever.

Starship Troopers
was interesting and certainly thought-provoking, even if I'd hate to live in the society it describes. The problem with the military is that it teaches you to obey legitimate orders rather than think for yourself and question the government. That may be very comfortable for those in power, but hardly for the rest of us. Universal suffrage may have its faults (the biggest one being that it requires a well-educated and motivated populace to function properly), but it still has more advantages than the alternatives.
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Old 20th June 2007, 03:12 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Im not saying it doesnt have fans that liked it but most of the people have seen the movie remember it only as bug killing feast. Im talking about the mainstream that didnt care about the satire but only wanted some space action. Heck that was the reason i saw the movie when it came out.
And that was why it was so good - because it wasn't a bug killing feast :-)

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121 mil is good but at the cost of that type of hollywood movie it would be a flopp if it didnt make that kind of money.
True enough. It cost $105m, so it didn't make that much money. It did well on sell-through, though.

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About Starship Troopers' novel's "importance" its hard knowing if the importance spread outside US. How do you check that out.

Fans wise im sure its important all around the world. There are prolly millions like me that remember it as RAH better works. It made me RAH fan cause of its ideas that still make people react whether they like the book or not.
Twenty years ago, I might have agreed. Now, I don't think it's held in quite the same regard. I personally don't know anyone who sings its praises (in real life, I mean), and I have a lot of friends in UK sf fandom.
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Old 20th June 2007, 03:40 PM   #243 (permalink)
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so im guessing no one liked Stargate and the somewhat film mission 1 - the children of the gods?
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Old 20th June 2007, 04:08 PM   #244 (permalink)
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Actually yes Stargate was very good - the multitude of spin off series didn't do much for me, but the original film was very good.

I've also thought of one more to add to my list - Children of Men. The book was pants, but the film was absolutely awesome. Eternal Sunshine and 12 Monkeys were both very good too, but I don't think they'd make my top 10.
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Old 20th June 2007, 04:40 PM   #245 (permalink)
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Re: Top Ten SF Films

Star Wars
Close Encounters
The Thing
Alien
Logans Run
The Omega Man
Silent Running
A.I.
Blade Runner

And what the hell, the Road Warrior.

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Old 20th June 2007, 05:32 PM   #246 (permalink)
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The 5th element

Starwars (the original 3 IMO)

Bladerunner

Alien and Aliens

2001

Close encounters

Gattica

A. I. (but would have been really interested to see how it would have differed f kubrick hadn't died)

E.T. (loved it then, love it now!)

Matrix
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Old 20th June 2007, 10:26 PM   #247 (permalink)
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see still no stargate there
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Old 21st June 2007, 09:08 AM   #248 (permalink)
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Well, I'll put it on mine then
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Old 21st June 2007, 11:20 PM   #249 (permalink)
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so im guessing no one liked Stargate and the somewhat film mission 1 - the children of the gods?
The Stargate film is a good Science Fiction film, but it isn't really top-10 material. I would however have been interested to see how the originally planned sequels would have turned out, I remember from the Stargate director's commentary that Emmerich and Devlin didn't seem too keen about how the TV series plot developed.
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Old 22nd June 2007, 12:41 AM   #250 (permalink)
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Stargate is good and i'm very much a fan(atical?) of the series. But not top ten material.... Hmm A conversation for the stargate thread methinks. So on to my top ten in no particular order.

The Thing
Akira
The Matrix (I like to pretend the sequels don't exist)
Blade Runner Directors cut
Serenity (Why? Tell me why did they cancel it?)
Empire strikes back
Castle in the sky (More fantasy then sci-fi but meh, it was the film that got 7 year old me into the genre)
Star Trek: wrath of Khan
The planet of the Apes (NOT the remake)
Dark City
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Old 29th June 2007, 09:21 PM   #251 (permalink)
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For the nine-month-long voyage to Mars, I would take:

1. Island of Lost Souls
2. The Day The Earth Stood Still
3. The War of the Worlds (1953)
4. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
5. The Forbidden Planet
6. The Fabulous World of Jules Verne
7. Robinson Crusoe on Mars
8. The First Men in the Moon
9. 2001: A Space Odyssey
10. Colossus: The Forbin Project

Anyone want to join me?
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Old 29th June 2007, 09:33 PM   #252 (permalink)
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For the nine-month-long voyage to Mars, I would take:

1. Island of Lost Souls
2. The Day The Earth Stood Still
3. The War of the Worlds (1953)
4. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
5. The Forbidden Planet
6. The Fabulous World of Jules Verne
7. Robinson Crusoe on Mars
8. The First Men in the Moon
9. 2001: A Space Odyssey
10. Colossus: The Forbin Project

Anyone want to join me?
Good choices...but I couldn't join anyone who didn't include Blade Runner. Damn, I'm elitist. How'd that happen?
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Old 29th June 2007, 09:58 PM   #253 (permalink)
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Good choices...but I couldn't join anyone who didn't include Blade Runner. Damn, I'm elitist. How'd that happen?
Make Blade Runner number 11, Tillane. Roy Batty's final scene always chokes me up, so maybe I didn't want to embarass myself in front of the other cosmonauts.

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Old 29th June 2007, 10:14 PM   #254 (permalink)
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Then count me in!

BTW, I wrote a whole dissertation on that scene as part of my "Utopia & Dystopia in modern writing" module at university.

Well, okay. I included a few other things. But it was my mainstay...
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Old 29th June 2007, 10:25 PM   #255 (permalink)
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Tillane I would have to agree, without Blade Runner there is no Top Ten!
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