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Old 17th June 2007, 05:10 AM   #211 (permalink)
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There was a movie with Sean Connery, where he was a police officer or something on an asteroid, or a space mining colony. I remember thinking 'This is great!', but I only saw it once, long ago, and forgot the name.

Also, does Event Horizon count? Because that movie totally rules.
The Connery film was called Outland. I think you remember it more fondly than I do!

And yes, Event Horizon certainly counts as SF, or at least SF-based horror (like Alien). I thought it went a bit overboard, but the premise was excellent.
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Old 17th June 2007, 05:35 AM   #212 (permalink)
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Good films.
My favorite is The Postman and then When Worlds Collide.
Otherwise the films I would list have already been done.
For worst films, I'd add The Crawling Eye. But it was the first sci-fi film my dad let me watch. I think he thought it would warp my mind or something.
The book for The Postman sucked big time. The movie was much better, and most people thought the movie also sucked!
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The Connery film was called Outland. I think you remember it more fondly than I do!

And yes, Event Horizon certainly counts as SF, or at least SF-based horror (like Alien). I thought it went a bit overboard, but the premise was excellent.
I think I'm the opposite here -I thought Outland wasn't bad, and Event Horizon was terrible. In fact, the only thing directed by Paul WS Anderson (not to be confused with Paul Thomas Anderson) that I've thought was any good was was the made-for-tv film The Sight - starring Andrew McCarthy as an architect in London who encounters a haunted hotel. But it's not sf, so it doesn't count :-)
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i know this is gonna sound dodgy, but conceptually i did like the matrix...the effects werent so bad either
No shame in it at all.

Many people like the concept of Matrix. Its what made it famous,not only the action effects.


I mean using people as batteries thats the most appealing thing with Matrix.
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The book for The Postman sucked big time. The movie was much better, and most people thought the movie also sucked!
Just to prove people's opinions differ; I quite liked the book and when I saw from excerpts what they'd done to it I've refused to watch it. I know you generally shouldn't compare the movie with the book, but I have my limits...
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You MUST compare the movie to its book.


Otherwise you are too nice to hollywood and thier crappy movie versions.
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But if you do that even movies that are enjoyable will become irritating to a certain extend... For example; I've never understood why Peter Jackson had Faramir take Frodo and Sam to Osgiliath, I just can't see the use of it, especially since it makes me doubt the wisdom of Faramir the Wise...
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Well i meant if the movie is different but good thats enough.


But there is no excuse if its totaly different and then suck.

I mean Godfather I,II are great movies but the book is alittle better and different, still the movies got what made the book great and thats enough.

Sadly thats the only example of a movie being almost as good as the book i know.
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I mean using people as batteries thats the most appealing thing with Matrix.
I thought the idea that we're all really living in a virtual reality, and don't know it, is the most appealing idea in The Matrix.

A movie simply can't be "like the book," and still be a good movie... the two mediums are too different. You have to make changes to the original content to satisfy the film story-telling method, or it shouldn't be done.
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Read my post above the movie not being like book. Thats what i think.


I thought the idea that we're all really living in a virtual reality

Thats the same thing really i mean we lived in VR cause they needed as alive while they used us as a battery

The most shocking and greatest about the movie was when Morpheus explained to Neo about everything really and then showed him the battery cause that whats humans were to the machines.
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There are plenty of cases where the film is actually superior to the book. Some examples that spring to mind are Starship Troopers, Marnie, and The Commitments.
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Thats in your OP.


Try finding ten people in these forums thinking ST movie is better RAH's Classic and Hugo Award winning for Best Novel......
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I don't think it would be that difficult.

Btw, while the film of Starship Troopers didn't actually win the Hugo in 1998, it was short-listed.
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Old 17th June 2007, 02:44 PM   #224 (permalink)
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In fact, looking through this thread, I think there's your ten people already. And most of them, I see, have made the same point to you.
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Old 17th June 2007, 08:11 PM   #225 (permalink)
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On Starship Troopers: I have to disagree; I don't think the film is superior. But then, the film was going for something completely different than the book; so to me it's sort of like comparing spiced apples and beefsteak.....
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