Other aliens and Earth

[padders]

I think there is a fundamental difference between enslaving a population and disrupting their natural evolution.

That episode they were going to take the mineral (season 1 i think) was a mistake and i think something they learnt from (episode 402, can't remember name, sorry!).

Goa'uld do need hosts to survive but at one point they must not have. They made the leap so take hosts. Also, how about a non-sentient animal. They could live in a cow for example (now that would be funny!).

[SGPflughaupt]

Dont say that about Gou'alded Cows I live in the country and am surrounded by them....your gonna make me paranoid

[padders]

it is the goa'uld chickens you need to be careful of

[MythingLink]

I thought there was something strange about the KFC that we brought home the other night.

Cheers,

[Shaun]

Yeah I can just imagine a cow or chicken with glowing eyes. But in the stargate movie it said that Ra searched the galaxy for a host for the Goa'uld. Even though they had the Unas as hosts. So maybe they need to have a specific species as hosts. I wonder if they would be able to take a Nox or Asgard as a host?

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by padders
well no because:

1) We don't take people as slaves
2) We want technology for defense not offense (if we attack the goa'uld that is a defensive pre emptive strike)

of course some will want technology for bad reasons (profit?) but i think generally we are nicer than the goa'uld. Of course i think we could find some perfectly good examples of people who would fit a goa'uld lifestyle perfectly !

1) we don't make slaves ?????

i didn't think so ... go back a few years in our time and u'll find black slaves in the US or american indian slaves in the US too ... and in europe there were also red and black slaves ...

and today, in some countries are people enslaved ..

so what make the tau'ri so much better than the goa'uld ??

the goa'uld take a host to survive , the tau'ri took that slaves to had a more convenient life !!!!

2) u really think that the US want defensive weapons ???
i don't think so ... it would be very dangerous if any alien race (e.g. tollans) would give the US for example the ion gun ... 'cos they could take control over the human world with this technology ...

[SGPflughaupt]

Geronimo makes some good points however I tend to believe humans are basically good (but the rottens ones make up for their numbers with deeds, unfortunately).

Besides....what makes a weapon 'defensive'. Even a forcefield could be used offensively (like crushing an enemy between two fields)

[Geronimo]

for example:

a A-bomb or a H-bomb are offensive weapons (they can't be used for only defensive ...) ..

a turret or a fixed gun at a definite place or are for example only defensive guns ..

but if they U.S. would have the chance to destroy the goa'uld or other races i think they would do to decrease the danger of an offensive action of this race ..
it is safe but it is not correct ..

[Geronimo]

P.S.: not only the U.S. ....

there are much other countries which would do that, i don't want to indicate only the U.S. as offensive nation

[Shaun]

It all depends on how you define deffensive and offensive.
Eg. An atom bomb can be a defensive weapon by destroying your enemy (or potential enemy) so that they can't attack you.

[Geronimo]

you're right, defensive weapons can't defined exactly ..

but the moment u leave your territory and attack another one it is offensive ..

when u attack anyone on your territory i think it is defined as defensive action ..

but it is quite difficult to define it exactly ...

[Rowan]

The basic 'Rule of Thumb' I've always been taught is:

If we use it first, it's offensive.
If they use it first and we use it back, it's defensive.

But then, I was taught by the US Army.

[Garron]

Originally posted by MythingLink
Well I'm an old, member of the Star Trek generation and do think that the Prime Directive that the show spouted was basically an honorable and ethical idea.

The Goa'uld didn't, as we all know, set themselves up as gods out of the goodness of their hearts. It was, and still is, a way for them to profit and for power. Unlike the culture in Spirits who masqueraded as Tonani's gods, or Thor who has patterned himself after 'Thor' <G>, who have done it to protect. I can understand the reasoning for doing this because they are dealing with a primitive culture who firmly believes that the gods are actively taking a part in their lives and it is really a very benign way of doing it. Whereas the Goa'uld use this same method but for their advantage.

So basically I think what the Goa'uld did was dispicable and don't have any qualms about fighting to keep them away from Earth and for the members of the SGC helping other worlds to pull away from this as well.

Cheers,

I totally agree. Any race promoting violence as a means for power is wrong. The Goa'uld from the beginnings of time were out to control and dominate other societies. The Goa'uld interests lie in productivity, management, and results. The precieved notions of honor, respect, and courage mask their true intentions, which was to discriminate and enslave races that were not Gou'ald.

A dirty topic altogether, but a concept that all must understand.