4.02: The Other Side

[padders]

Without being silly, however advanced they are they still lost the war (sg-1 being there made almost zero difference either way in the end) so the other side is perhaps more advanced. Admittingly they also probably one because of larger numbers.

Give it a few months, go back, say "any of you those bombers who get an escort?" oh yes, "that was us" want to be allies?

The "breeders" are far more likely to have similair ideals.

Ever really believe they would actually help us with the technology when they discover we are the same as "the breeders" they would just be another enemy. There is almost no chance we could reverse engineer something that advanced either.

In the end we could not win in this situation even putting morality asside. We did the best thing and only real thing. It is different to interfering in wars on this planet for that reason.

[jsc]

Being a member of the breeders....
All joking aside, Wasn't it strange that Alar wasn't thought to be referring to Teal'c symbotic relationship with the Goa'uld larva but to the color of Teal'c skin. I would look at Teal'c and be worried more about the symboite. But then probably Alar didn't know about the symboite...just an external reference to melinin.

[padders]

well it was the way he said it

"he is different istn't he". No one had told them about the Goa'uld, and they had made no indication that it was that so colour is about all it could have been.

If they were that racist that they were undergoing racial cleansing it is strange they let him in at all, i guess it shows how desperate they were...

horrible people!

[SGPflughaupt]

Horrible people,yes, but the way the show portrayed them was very good in that on first meeting with them they did not come across as foaming in the mouth racists which is a bit of stereo-type. It was only as the team came to know them better that their racism became apparent.

More like what we might encounter in the real world,I think. I was even surprised once by a WWII vet who was a bit,how shall I say,rude to me apon finding out I was part German (And only apparent in having a Germanic last name,my family having come over most recently with my grandparents as children).

[RangerOne SG13 SOR]

I wouldnt take it to heart mate if it came from a WWII vet. They all lost a lot of friends and family etc during those times so resentment will never leave them. I would though be shocked to hear that kind of attitude from a younger generation.



Ranger

[padders]

Although a WWII vet should understand the most what unjustified resentment can cause i would think

[Cap'tCrash]

Cap'tCrash
I liked this episode for the action as well as the issues it brought up,Sam got to go kicking even Danny waded in as well! The TECH was good looking and would have seemed to help us if we had it.
Alar and Co were creepy far too insistant for my liking,Jack had his orders and followed them,Sam followed her CO,and Danny questioned everything and body.I thought the line 'Danny shut up' was fun.
The end was strange not like Jack at all,perhaps he went along the lines of a 'Splatting is too good for them'!!!
Roll on next week I say.

[Abydos6]

This was one of my favourite eps so far, I loved the conflict and kept telling jack (yes i know its only the tv and he can't hear me), to listen to Daniel...
It just reminds me of how we all tend to overlook things, and maybe not want to know what really happened in different situations, insted we try to get what we can out of them before our eyes are opened...and i had a feeling as the leader begged to go with them, that jack was going to do something nasty, and I wasn't wrong...I may not agree with it...but he was a jerk! (not jack)

[Cap'tCrash]

THANK YOU Aby,I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who yells instructions at the telly.Hubby's line is 'if you don't be quiet(or when it's really good stop sniviling) I'll turn it off'.
I agree this was a good ep.Nice to see our heros can make mistakes.But Jack did seem a little more harse than usual.

[Texane]

Originally posted by archiver
MythingLink

I really enjoyed this episode in a couple of ways. One of those reasons is that it added a little more to the character of Jack O'Neill and I would like to see how they develop it as time goes on. Jack was almost willing to ignore the warnings that kept Daniel going in order to get the technology that the SGC had been striving to get for so long. To finally have someone willing to give it to them, must have been such a wonder for them and then to realize what the consequences would be if they accepted it must be leaving Jack feeling incredibly confused. "Fruit from the poisoned tree." was the thought that went through my head as I watched the episode.
Of course, this was directed by Peter DeLuise and he is one of my favorite directors for SG1. TPTB certainly found a jewel in him. I have enjoyed every episode he has had a hand in.

Confused, MythingLink? As a person with a number of military family members, past and present, I assure you. The word you are looking for is not confused. Irritated is it.

[MythingLink]

Nope, confused not irritated. Anyone with a conscience is going to run a gamut of emotions given the circumstances that were shown in this episode and confusion is going to be one of them. A strict military mindset when confronted with 'human' issues that need to be resolved will stop a person for a millisecond or two and make one wonder if they are taking the correct course of action if that person has a conscience at all (and we know Jack has one).

Also from someone who has a military background.

Cheers,

[Texane]

Originally posted by MythingLink
Nope, confused not irritated. Anyone with a conscience is going to run a gamut of emotions given the circumstances that were shown in this episode and confusion is going to be one of them. A strict military mindset when confronted with 'human' issues that need to be resolved will stop a person for a millisecond or two and make one wonder if they are taking the correct course of action if that person has a conscience at all (and we know Jack has one).

Also from someone who has a military background.

Cheers,

And that is why they call if science FICTION . . .

[MythingLink]

Yep, fiction based on human frailty and strengths. Otherwise, I'm thinking, a lot of people wouldn't watch it.

Cheers,

[Texane]

Originally posted by MythingLink
Yep, fiction based on human frailty and strengths. Otherwise, I'm thinking, a lot of people wouldn't watch it.

Cheers,

Clearly you haven't been to The Point, The Naval Academy, or The Pentagon lately. The people who have passed through those locations do NOT admit to the frailties you speak of.

[MythingLink]

No one every admits to fraily ... certainly not the young soldier that took his own life at Ft. Campbell a month ago, or the soldier that tried to kill himself with a knife in the chapel at Camp Carrol, Korea two years ago, or the Captain that tried to hang himself in his room at Walter Reed Army Hospital, or the Sergeant that tried to jump from the roof of the same hospital. I don't suppose that the soldier who walked into WRAMC and shot two people would admit to frailty either. And definitely not the retired Master Sergeant who still hears the bombs in the night and talks about the young children he saw killed. None of them will admit to any kind of frailty because they're military and military have to be strong and brave. They can have no fear of dying or watching others die no matter the cause or the reason. Having feelings is for the weak. Expressing or relieving those feelings in a beneficial way is for the weak.

I'm sorry. I've watched so many strong, brave young men and women break simply because they were never taught to bend. Never allowed to bend. And there will be more, a lot more until the powers that be realize that in order to conquer those frailties or weaknesses, one must confront them but first one must admit that they are there.

Cheers,