2.15: A Matter Of Time

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Sean3w

Boring. NOt much action other than Sam playing with her mental calculator. Could have been better. I'd hate having missed so much time.
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MythingLink

Gotta disagree. I don't think this was a boring episode at all. From the very beginning they caught my imagination. I couldn't help but feel for all the characters and not just the team left on the planet although that did take up a lot of my thoughts. What do you do, what do you think, when you know how you're going to die and that it's not going to be an easy death?
I've always like Marshall Teague and wish that they hadn't had to kill him. It really would have been interesting to know how his and Jack's relationship might have changed after this. (Two points to the person who can name the MacGyver episode he was also in.)

We got a little more insight into Jack's character (which is something I like to see - what in everyone's past motivates them to do the things they do).

And I wondered when the donuts would come into play. I figured that someone would have to use one somewhere as a prop. <G>

I know someone on one of the mailing lists thought that Sam was putting Teal'c down when she asked him if he knew about quantum physics, but I thought she was honestly trying to find information and would go to any source she could. I thought it was an indication of how much she had come to trust Teal'c and acknowledge that he has intelligence and could possibly have some insight into the problem.

So to me, not boring at all. <G>

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Sean3w

They should of had Sam have a dream sequence of what would happen if they didn't stop this blackhole.
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RangerOne SG13 SOR

If they had shown Sams blackhole it would have been even better...
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padders

Ranger.. um ........
Mything.. I remember also thinking about asking Teal'c that question. It is hard to know how much Teal'c knows about these sort of things but it seems his scientific knowledge when he has it is all based torwards a specific purpose for example faster than light travel etc but never purely abstract stuff. (not that blacks holes are really abstract but pratically they are for most people!)

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MythingLink

Even given that his knowledge is more esoteric, just the fact that she asked was an indication of how much she values Teal'c and his opinions or his ability to help in finding a solution. I believe that Teal'c knew this by getting her to talk about it knowing that if she did, she would be able to work it out. Sometimes the value of ones input is how well they listen.
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Sean3w

There was some Teal'c and Sam bonding time. Aw how sweet.
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I loved this episode form the Jack point of view.

I thought the opening was great with Jack asking Sam about the worm hole thing

" I know I should already know this but these worm holes we go through are not always there right?
No Sir".

Great part shows Sams understanding of Jack and how Jack respects Sam knowlege.

One thing I did notice Sam loves useing food to discribe her points,


apples, donuts

You also get a look into Jacks milatery past.

"I saw you take off, and then I spent four months is some stinking Iraq prison".

[carkedit]

I loved this epi......I thought the insight into Jack's past was great.....I loved the opening scene....loved the whole thang in fact!!

Carkedit :dead:

[PTeppic]

The biggest thing that I thought about (sad or what) was the terrible fate they were assigning to local space around P2A-870 which I believe is where they jumped the wormhole to.

Wouldn't that planet just be subjected to the same as earth - and then all the surrounding space? For how long? Would it effectively just create a new black hole, but with a fixed diameter, until possibly the gate collapsed?

But, do the Tau'ri have the right to make that decision just to save themselves?

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Surely the effect would only occur so long as the connection was made between the blackhole and P2A-870 so long as the Gate was working. If that connection was broken (i.e. if the Stagate collapsed as you say.) Then would it not just stop there, and the blackhole only continue where it was originally.
I don't really know......
I can see such a decision by the Tau'ri causing problems, but they were desperate.

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I suppose it all comes down to the strength of the gate (and a circle is pretty darned solid against compression/collapse) and whether it is even under gravity at all - it is effectively a lens and the wormhole mouth - so for both reasons may not actually suffer the stresses of the gravity it is inflicting locally...

But then maybe the wormhole itself would collapse?

Plot hole - leave at that...

[ColONeil]

I doubt that the Stargate on the other end would collapse, after all it did withstand *SPOILER* General Bauer's Naquadah bomb.

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[Having just re-watched the episode]

a) Teal'c and Sam - the whole of Teal'c's technical knowledge prior to breaking from Apophis was theoretically that it was Goa'uld magic - he tells them (in COTG?) that they were forbidden to know how such things worked. BUT he must have picked some stuff up, and as mentioned above, he is clearly far from stupid, and working around Sam and Daniel seems to be learning fast. Sorry Jack-fans, he is not that sort of thinker!

b) Fate of P2A-870 - I am missing so much by being in Britain without satellite feed, and hence only being at the end of Series 3!!

c) Other things that came to me:
+ is there really all the strength in the iris to support the time it stayed in place - those irises are not designed for strenth but to provide a 100% closure, e.g. cameras, and on the gate, it is merely to stop reintegration of matter, so do not inherently need lateral strength against actual mass/force.

+ I think Jack's question was the writers making sure the audience still had the plot, though it gives good character filler for the two protagonists.

+ gravity / lens effect: thinking about it a lens doesn't necessarily get hot by focusing light, so the gate wouldn't necessarily get acted upon by the gravity coming through the wormhole

+ the gate should still close at the Maj. Boyd end sometime. Even if they only got six frames in eleven minutes or whatever, that is still 1/4 second, and therefore they only need 152 * 60 more of eleven minutes... though it would presumably slow down more