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ShelbyS · 27th August 2001, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by P'Teppic
The biggest thing that I thought about (sad or what) was the terrible fate they were assigning to local space around P2A-870 which I believe is where they jumped the wormhole to.

Wouldn't that planet just be subjected to the same as earth - and then all the surrounding space? For how long? Would it effectively just create a new black hole, but with a fixed diameter, until possibly the gate collapsed?

But, do the Tau'ri have the right to make that decision just to save themselves?

Someone said what about the planet that the wormhole jumped to? Wouldn't that planet suffer the effects of the black hole?
The answer is No. Why? you ask. Simple...

If you remember it was the SGC who dialed up P2A-870 when they were trying to communicate with Boyd's team (also remember Simmons saying to Sam "It's an OUTGOING wormhole, nothing can come through this way"). Okay, so since it's an outgoing wormhole from our end if the gate is overpowered it is OUR wormhole the jumps, not a wormhole from P2A-870 . The origin of the wormhole is Earth. Therefore the wormhole from our safe Earth jumps to another planet, thereby severing the connection with P2A-870. It's like saying that the wormhole that was connected to the P2A-870 Gate moved to the Gate on anothe planet. So therefore there is no longer a wormhole connected to P2A-870. Instead our wormhole is connected to some other unknown planet, and then we just shut it off.

So the blackhole never effected any other planet after the connection with earth was cut.

This is my favourite SG ep of all time.

PTeppic · 7th September 2001, 02:04 AM

Although you are mixing up the planets (P2A-870 was where the wormhole jumped TO),I think I get the idea...

I have also been thinking about Solitudes (energy surge at the "far" end as they came home, and the home gate jumped), and Touchstone (where they go to the far gate with a generator to agani force the home gate to jump). By extrapolation therefore, the surge the bomb causes in the home gate will cause the FAR end of the wormhole to jump...

Gotcha - I understand now - I was always concerned for those poor people on P2a_870, but nothing actually happens to them! The gravity stays on P3W-451 with the eventually belated Henry Boyd, but their gate loses its wormhole.

lene morissette · 20th February 2002, 07:39 PM

At the beginning why were Sam and Jack whispering? Was it so that Simmonds wouldn't hear or sumthing?!? Well if that was the case then I think it would have done more harm than good since Simmonds has a thing for Sam
(*roll eyes* who on base doesn't?!?)
then he probably would have thought that they were talking about him or saying sumthing that he didn't want to hear:naughty:
Since neither was the case there was no need to whisper. Evry1 knows that Sam is 'way smarter' than Jack so why would he try to hide it?????

Neway, I think the episode was cool and there were sum cute moments between Sam, Teal'c, Jack and Cromwell in various pairs.

Highlander II · 22nd April 2002, 03:46 PM

MythingLink asked *way* back at the beginning of the thread about the episode of MacGyver that Marshall Teague was in --

i had to run over to imdb.com to make sure i was thinking of the right episode -- and i discovered he's in 2 eps -

the one she was probably thinking of is "MacGyver's Women" - he played Logan - the guy who was gonna swipe the gold mine from the Bozers (btw - one of these guys also does a guest spot on SG-1 - but it's not until season 4) --

however, Marshall was also in "Renegade" - Marshall plays Steve Morrison - the guy who stole the anthrax bacillus from a lab --

okay - back to "A Matter of Time" -- and i can't believe that no one's mentioned this --

this is where we meet Major Davis for the first time! It's Colin Cunningham's first appearance on SG-1 - and he was magnificient! Quite impressive and he did a wonderful job of sounding 'urgent'!

This is one of my favorite episodes of Season 2 -

and the scene with Sam talking to Teal'c about quantum physics - it looked to me like one of those times where you just need to talk something 'out loud' to 'get it' - she was asking Teal'c, maybe she thought he would help, maybe she didn't, but she then proceeded to try to explain what she had drawn on the board, and she came to the conclusion that what Hammond and co were planning wasn't going to work - she 'talked it out' - talking to Teal'c - who is an excellent listener - but, almost, more talking to herself, explaining to herself what she was trying to do --

now - don't tell me you've never done that ----

lene morissette · 26th April 2002, 11:35 PM

That's soooooo weird! my chem. teacher said the same thing 2 me 2day!

" Sumtimes if u say sumthing out loud that didn't make sense in ur head then it might make sense when u say it!"

Wise Mrs. Lewis!

Highlander II · 27th April 2002, 03:32 AM

yeah -- i do it all the time at work -- there's something i can't figure out and i call the person who can help and i start explaining what's wrong and then this lightbulb goes off and it's like *BANG*! then 'duh! i knew that!' <smack forehead> and problem solved --

then again, sometimes you need a 2nd set of eyes to look at something and see what you've been staring at the last hour --

so, no, I dont' think Sam was talking downt o Teal'c, I think she was using his listening skills to explain what she needed to explain to herself -- (did that make sense?)

skoon · 27th April 2002, 04:36 AM

well season 2 id the only season of 5 that I've only seen once & on computer at that so I don't really have any 2 cents to add, but I do talk to my calculator when doing math

Highlander II · 27th April 2002, 05:17 AM

i've just seen this episode so many times -- it's one of my faves

partly b/c of Major D, but there are other parts too -- it's just a nice ep all around

kelsi · 8th May 2002, 03:21 PM

I like that they managed to squeeze so much science and maths in to one ep!! It was kewl, and I could understand most of it!

Highlander II · 11th May 2002, 03:35 AM

yeah - they put a lot of stuff in this episode -

including Jack being intelligent - YAY! Smart Jack stuff!

I really hate it when they 'dumb him down' - it takes away from the show --

There is NO way he could be 'the big dumb guy' and be in the position and rank he is ---

kelsi · 11th May 2002, 01:45 PM

I agree, don't liek the way they make such a contrast between Sam and Jack

skoon · 13th May 2002, 09:00 PM

maybe Jack just likes listening to Sam explain things & so acts dumb?

kelsi · 13th May 2002, 10:29 PM

But wouldn't she respect him so much more if they could have intellectual discussions?!

skoon · 13th May 2002, 11:01 PM

probably...

lene morissette · 15th May 2002, 08:48 PM

Maybe she likes explaining stuff to him! God knows I would! It's an excuse to spend time with him. Find me a woman on Earth who wouldn't want to spend time with a guy like him?!?:naughty: It's the losest thing they will ever get to a fishing trip while they are under the same command. *sigh*

7th September 2001, 02:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,086	Although you are mixing up the planets (P2A-870 was where the wormhole jumped TO),I think I get the idea... I have also been thinking about Solitudes (energy surge at the "far" end as they came home, and the home gate jumped), and Touchstone (where they go to the far gate with a generator to agani force the home gate to jump). By extrapolation therefore, the surge the bomb causes in the home gate will cause the FAR end of the wormhole to jump... Gotcha - I understand now - I was always concerned for those poor people on P2a_870, but nothing actually happens to them! The gravity stays on P3W-451 with the eventually belated Henry Boyd, but their gate loses its wormhole.

20th February 2002, 07:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
lene morissette I'm BACK!!!! Yay! Hiya! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: I live in Manchester, England Posts: 309	At the beginning why were Sam and Jack whispering? Was it so that Simmonds wouldn't hear or sumthing?!? Well if that was the case then I think it would have done more harm than good since Simmonds has a thing for Sam (roll eyes who on base doesn't?!?) then he probably would have thought that they were talking about him or saying sumthing that he didn't want to hear:naughty: Since neither was the case there was no need to whisper. Evry1 knows that Sam is 'way smarter' than Jack so why would he try to hide it????? Neway, I think the episode was cool and there were sum cute moments between Sam, Teal'c, Jack and Cromwell in various pairs.

22nd April 2002, 03:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,499	MythingLink asked way back at the beginning of the thread about the episode of MacGyver that Marshall Teague was in -- i had to run over to imdb.com to make sure i was thinking of the right episode -- and i discovered he's in 2 eps - the one she was probably thinking of is "MacGyver's Women" - he played Logan - the guy who was gonna swipe the gold mine from the Bozers (btw - one of these guys also does a guest spot on SG-1 - but it's not until season 4) -- however, Marshall was also in "Renegade" - Marshall plays Steve Morrison - the guy who stole the anthrax bacillus from a lab -- okay - back to "A Matter of Time" -- and i can't believe that no one's mentioned this -- this is where we meet Major Davis for the first time! It's Colin Cunningham's first appearance on SG-1 - and he was magnificient! Quite impressive and he did a wonderful job of sounding 'urgent'! This is one of my favorite episodes of Season 2 - and the scene with Sam talking to Teal'c about quantum physics - it looked to me like one of those times where you just need to talk something 'out loud' to 'get it' - she was asking Teal'c, maybe she thought he would help, maybe she didn't, but she then proceeded to try to explain what she had drawn on the board, and she came to the conclusion that what Hammond and co were planning wasn't going to work - she 'talked it out' - talking to Teal'c - who is an excellent listener - but, almost, more talking to herself, explaining to herself what she was trying to do -- now - don't tell me you've never done that ----

26th April 2002, 11:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
lene morissette I'm BACK!!!! Yay! Hiya! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: I live in Manchester, England Posts: 309	That's soooooo weird! my chem. teacher said the same thing 2 me 2day! " Sumtimes if u say sumthing out loud that didn't make sense in ur head then it might make sense when u say it!" Wise Mrs. Lewis!

27th April 2002, 03:32 AM	#21 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,499	yeah -- i do it all the time at work -- there's something i can't figure out and i call the person who can help and i start explaining what's wrong and then this lightbulb goes off and it's like BANG! then 'duh! i knew that!' <smack forehead> and problem solved -- then again, sometimes you need a 2nd set of eyes to look at something and see what you've been staring at the last hour -- so, no, I dont' think Sam was talking downt o Teal'c, I think she was using his listening skills to explain what she needed to explain to herself -- (did that make sense?)

27th April 2002, 04:36 AM	#22 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	well season 2 id the only season of 5 that I've only seen once & on computer at that so I don't really have any 2 cents to add, but I do talk to my calculator when doing math

27th April 2002, 05:17 AM	#23 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,499	i've just seen this episode so many times -- it's one of my faves partly b/c of Major D, but there are other parts too -- it's just a nice ep all around

8th May 2002, 03:21 PM	#24 (permalink)
kelsi Expert Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sitting in front of my computer, at home, on Chulak. Posts: 1,411	I like that they managed to squeeze so much science and maths in to one ep!! It was kewl, and I could understand most of it!

11th May 2002, 03:35 AM	#25 (permalink)
Highlander II There can be only one!! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,499	yeah - they put a lot of stuff in this episode - including Jack being intelligent - YAY! Smart Jack stuff! I really hate it when they 'dumb him down' - it takes away from the show -- There is NO way he could be 'the big dumb guy' and be in the position and rank he is ---

11th May 2002, 01:45 PM	#26 (permalink)
kelsi Expert Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sitting in front of my computer, at home, on Chulak. Posts: 1,411	I agree, don't liek the way they make such a contrast between Sam and Jack

13th May 2002, 09:00 PM	#27 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	maybe Jack just likes listening to Sam explain things & so acts dumb?

13th May 2002, 10:29 PM	#28 (permalink)
kelsi Expert Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sitting in front of my computer, at home, on Chulak. Posts: 1,411	But wouldn't she respect him so much more if they could have intellectual discussions?!

13th May 2002, 11:01 PM	#29 (permalink)
skoon Official keeper of Narim! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: British Columbia, CANADA Posts: 4,342	probably...

15th May 2002, 08:48 PM	#30 (permalink)
lene morissette I'm BACK!!!! Yay! Hiya! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: I live in Manchester, England Posts: 309	Maybe she likes explaining stuff to him! God knows I would! It's an excuse to spend time with him. Find me a woman on Earth who wouldn't want to spend time with a guy like him?!?:naughty: It's the losest thing they will ever get to a fishing trip while they are under the same command. sigh