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Goob'r55 · 5th October 2003, 08:11 PM

Okay---Despite the Daniel issues (which I can ignore) I do love the Thor's Hammer Episode because it is sucha Great Jack and Teal'c show! I just love it when Jack and Teal'c are together on screen! There is such commradery!

From the first minutes, after the come through the Stargate....and Teal'c is in trouble as the Thor's Blue transport beam captures him, and Jack leaps to his aid, throughout every second of their journey through the caverns in their quest to find freedom, the connection between the two men is just---outstanding!!!

YEEEEWWWWW-HAWWWW!!!

I love it when Teal'c tells Jack to go ahead and leave and Jack's firm repsonse is, "I'm not going anywhere!" And oh, that wonder "Teal'c" expression!

And those great, humorous moments -- as my best Stargate friend says, the Lions and Tigers and Bears, "oh, my" moments -- when teal'c and jack are trying to convince each other that the First One is really dead. Too funny!

And soo Little Boy like-- yet, given the real danger for both men, understandable!

And the way Jack never hesitates to just take on that Unas ---! You go, Warrior! Especially at the end, when he can free himself-- but stays to help Teal'c fight to the very last! OH YEAH!!!!!

What a great bonding story for Teal'c and Jack!

And then, when the others show up -- well, Jack's expressions when he has to confront Daniel's intentions and desires are also just great.

There is no moment of softness. No question as to where he stands on the issue. His voice betrays no "iffness" -- it's just:

Teal'c is leaving this place -- NOW!

That he expected Daniel to make it possible, was really just his way of telling Daniel to wake up to what the harsh realities of life - and the Universe -- has to offer:

"Teal'c is here now," (Look Daniel, you don't know if you'll ever find Sha're....)

To Teal'c: "No! You're part of this family now! We're not leaving you behind"
(Don't you understand, yet, Teal'c -- you're more than just my friend. You're my brother!)

And when he handed Daniel the weapon..... (Make a decision Daniel. Are you a part of this team or not!)

I think what is interesting, most of all, after Teal'c is able to walk through Thor's Hammer, and he thanks Daniel -- and Daniel's only response is to comment, "At least we know it can be done, right?"

Hmmmm----wonder what Jack thought of that response? Did he ever call Daniel on that comment?

Anyway....just love this episode!

Lizzi · 17th October 2003, 03:19 PM

As I said in another post, Jack should have been court-martialed for destroying the hammer without even trying to find another solution.

What was the big rush? Teal'c wasn't going anywhere. Jack wrecked what could have been a key piece of technology simply to prevent Teal'c from spending a few days in a cave.

I also don't know why Jack was so eager to *save* the man responsible for the kidnapping and killing of one of his fellow air force officers, not to mention being responsible for Skaara and Sha're being goa'ulded. If I were Hammond, I would have taken a very dim view of Jack's actions.

PTeppic · 17th October 2003, 06:57 PM

He had risked his own life to change sides, bringing knowledge and skills which had already proved useful and will continue to do so for several years, saving SG-1's lives on numerous occasions. He had also allowed himself to be subjected medical experiments to try to save Kowalsky, one of Jack's closest friends. There's also the whole "don't leave a man behind" thing going on...

Sindri · 19th December 2003, 12:27 AM

I perceived O'Neill's decision to destroy the hammer device as being selfish and arrogant. Regardless of how indebted the rest of SG1 was to Teal'c they had no right to take this course of action. SG1 jeopadised the lives of many innocent people for the welfare of one of their own members. Even Jackson's sole response was only considering himself, with no regard for the Cimmeria people. The safety of the Cimmerians was not SG1's to risk.

5th October 2003, 08:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
Goob'r55 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21	What I LOVE about THOR's HAMMER Okay---Despite the Daniel issues (which I can ignore) I do love the Thor's Hammer Episode because it is sucha Great Jack and Teal'c show! I just love it when Jack and Teal'c are together on screen! There is such commradery! From the first minutes, after the come through the Stargate....and Teal'c is in trouble as the Thor's Blue transport beam captures him, and Jack leaps to his aid, throughout every second of their journey through the caverns in their quest to find freedom, the connection between the two men is just---outstanding!!! YEEEEWWWWW-HAWWWW!!! I love it when Teal'c tells Jack to go ahead and leave and Jack's firm repsonse is, "I'm not going anywhere!" And oh, that wonder "Teal'c" expression! And those great, humorous moments -- as my best Stargate friend says, the Lions and Tigers and Bears, "oh, my" moments -- when teal'c and jack are trying to convince each other that the First One is really dead. Too funny! And soo Little Boy like-- yet, given the real danger for both men, understandable! And the way Jack never hesitates to just take on that Unas ---! You go, Warrior! Especially at the end, when he can free himself-- but stays to help Teal'c fight to the very last! OH YEAH!!!!! What a great bonding story for Teal'c and Jack! And then, when the others show up -- well, Jack's expressions when he has to confront Daniel's intentions and desires are also just great. There is no moment of softness. No question as to where he stands on the issue. His voice betrays no "iffness" -- it's just: Teal'c is leaving this place -- NOW! That he expected Daniel to make it possible, was really just his way of telling Daniel to wake up to what the harsh realities of life - and the Universe -- has to offer: "Teal'c is here now," (Look Daniel, you don't know if you'll ever find Sha're....) To Teal'c: "No! You're part of this family now! We're not leaving you behind" (Don't you understand, yet, Teal'c -- you're more than just my friend. You're my brother!) And when he handed Daniel the weapon..... (Make a decision Daniel. Are you a part of this team or not!) I think what is interesting, most of all, after Teal'c is able to walk through Thor's Hammer, and he thanks Daniel -- and Daniel's only response is to comment, "At least we know it can be done, right?" Hmmmm----wonder what Jack thought of that response? Did he ever call Daniel on that comment? Anyway....just love this episode!

17th October 2003, 03:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
Lizzi Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 39	As I said in another post, Jack should have been court-martialed for destroying the hammer without even trying to find another solution. What was the big rush? Teal'c wasn't going anywhere. Jack wrecked what could have been a key piece of technology simply to prevent Teal'c from spending a few days in a cave. I also don't know why Jack was so eager to save the man responsible for the kidnapping and killing of one of his fellow air force officers, not to mention being responsible for Skaara and Sha're being goa'ulded. If I were Hammond, I would have taken a very dim view of Jack's actions.

17th October 2003, 06:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
PTeppic Reetou Diplomatic Corp Join Date: May 2001 Location: North-west UK Posts: 3,073	He had risked his own life to change sides, bringing knowledge and skills which had already proved useful and will continue to do so for several years, saving SG-1's lives on numerous occasions. He had also allowed himself to be subjected medical experiments to try to save Kowalsky, one of Jack's closest friends. There's also the whole "don't leave a man behind" thing going on...

19th December 2003, 12:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
Sindri Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 37	I perceived O'Neill's decision to destroy the hammer device as being selfish and arrogant. Regardless of how indebted the rest of SG1 was to Teal'c they had no right to take this course of action. SG1 jeopadised the lives of many innocent people for the welfare of one of their own members. Even Jackson's sole response was only considering himself, with no regard for the Cimmeria people. The safety of the Cimmerians was not SG1's to risk.