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Wiggum · 19th July 2006, 05:04 PM

Halfway through my second reading of AFFC, having distanced myself timewise sufficiently from my first.

I've found the second reading to be much more enjoyable. I don't have the urge I intitially did to skim over parts to try and get to the next chapter or to find out what happens next. Being able to take the writing in slowly without the inevitable impatience of the initial experience does a lot for the overall enjoyment of the story.

That being said, if he continues at this pace the series will be roughly 183 books.

Who's read it a second time?

Werthead · 19th July 2006, 07:11 PM

Not yet, but I'm planning a full series re-read for next year, just before Book 5 comes out.

red_temple · 19th July 2006, 09:35 PM

I haven't yet, either. I'm waiting for it to be released in mass-market paperback. I don't want to risk damage to my precious autographed hardcover....

Trey Greyjoy · 19th July 2006, 11:21 PM

Aye, only once for me also.

Im going to slowly make my way back through the series. Listening to AGOT I downloaded from Audible and taking notes. Hopefully by the time I get up to and through AFFC the new one will be ready to come out!

genisis2 · 20th July 2006, 05:12 AM

Wiggum I read it twice, first by chapter then by pov which someone once suggested on this forum. I enjoyed the second reading much more than the first.Also certian PoV's that I hated I actually ended up appreciating more [Brienne]. Then there is that fact that I had forgotten a whack of events so a rereading was a must for me.

Wiggum · 20th July 2006, 03:49 PM

Funny you should say that. I was going to post that during the second reading I don't even mind Brienne's chapters, lol.

It's kind of a wierd thing though. The first time I read it it seemed like the Kingsmoot took a long (but very enjoyable) time. Second reading it flew right by. Same with the abduction of Myrcella and the death of Arys.

genisis2 · 20th July 2006, 06:59 PM

Agreed

Wil · 27th July 2006, 04:39 PM

I admit I liked it more the second time around. I skipped the POV's I didn't like and it came alive more. I give it more credit now than before.
I just hope I don't have to skip any POV's in ADWD. I have to disagree about the Brieanne parts though. No matter what I did I just found her sections useless as part of this great story. I did learn to appreciate Cersei's POV more, which is something.

I may take GM's advice, cut out the parts I like out of each book and put them together into 1 MASIVE BOOK OF PLEASURE!

AryaUnderfoot · 27th July 2006, 05:45 PM

I was re-reading AFFC recently and enjoying it quite a bit... until my husband had finished reading ASOS for the first time and came along, frothing at the mouth, and stole AFFC right out of my hands.

I was skipping over the Victarion/Euron/Aeron chapters- they all annoy me for some reason. Victarion's by far my favorite, but I can't forgive him for killing his wife so brutally.

TK-421 · 27th July 2006, 06:42 PM

Oh Arya....

I'll forgive you for skipping over those chapters. Personally I like Aeron and of course Asha but Victarion would of made the best choice. GRRM has spent some time developing the Ironborn for a good reason I hope.

AryaUnderfoot · 27th July 2006, 07:05 PM

I guess I was just so mad that Euron won the kingsmoot that I didn't want to relive that agony again. I don't know... I guess they all just seem to have their heads too far up their a**es, and I deal enough with that in my personal life.

Asha bothers me. I have a love/hate thing going on with her. On one hand, I think it's cool that she's downright nasty and does things her way no matter what. On the other hand, I can't help but feel that she's trying too hard, if that makes any sense.

I like Brienne better- she's not as smart as Asha, but then again she's not power-hungry, which I find rather refreshing.

the smiling weirwood · 27th July 2006, 07:34 PM

Weel, we really don't know how smart Brienne is because she's completely delusional, kind of like Sansa until recently. I'm hoping Brienne snaps out of it soon.

AryaUnderfoot · 27th July 2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the smiling weirwood

Weel, we really don't know how smart Brienne is because she's completely delusional, kind of like Sansa until recently. I'm hoping Brienne snaps out of it soon.

Brienne's a hurt little puppy. She's growing and learning. And she's come to terms with what she is.

Sometimes I feel like Asha just suffers from extreme penis-envy, like Cersei.

Lack of intelligence, in my book, is better than intelligence misused.

the smiling weirwood · 28th July 2006, 06:41 AM

I don't think Asha has penis-envy so much as penis-disdain.

Wiggum · 28th July 2006, 02:49 PM

Or penis ambivalence.

Now, while I did say I didn't mind the Brienne chapters, they are still to me, the low points of the book.

If she's going to grow and learn, how damn long is it going to take to at least start?

19th July 2006, 05:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Wiggum Big Pimping Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 559	AFFC take two Halfway through my second reading of AFFC, having distanced myself timewise sufficiently from my first. I've found the second reading to be much more enjoyable. I don't have the urge I intitially did to skim over parts to try and get to the next chapter or to find out what happens next. Being able to take the writing in slowly without the inevitable impatience of the initial experience does a lot for the overall enjoyment of the story. That being said, if he continues at this pace the series will be roughly 183 books. Who's read it a second time?

19th July 2006, 07:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Werthead Lemming of Discord Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,309	Re: AFFC take two Not yet, but I'm planning a full series re-read for next year, just before Book 5 comes out.

19th July 2006, 09:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
red_temple Boo! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 357	Re: AFFC take two I haven't yet, either. I'm waiting for it to be released in mass-market paperback. I don't want to risk damage to my precious autographed hardcover....

19th July 2006, 11:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Trey Greyjoy Moderates UNITE! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 622	Re: AFFC take two Aye, only once for me also. Im going to slowly make my way back through the series. Listening to AGOT I downloaded from Audible and taking notes. Hopefully by the time I get up to and through AFFC the new one will be ready to come out!

20th July 2006, 05:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
genisis2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 380	Re: AFFC take two Wiggum I read it twice, first by chapter then by pov which someone once suggested on this forum. I enjoyed the second reading much more than the first.Also certian PoV's that I hated I actually ended up appreciating more [*Brienne*]. Then there is that fact that I had forgotten a whack of events so a rereading was a must for me.

20th July 2006, 03:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wiggum Big Pimping Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 559	Re: AFFC take two Funny you should say that. I was going to post that during the second reading I don't even mind Brienne's chapters, lol. It's kind of a wierd thing though. The first time I read it it seemed like the Kingsmoot took a long (but very enjoyable) time. Second reading it flew right by. Same with the abduction of Myrcella and the death of Arys.

20th July 2006, 06:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
genisis2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 380	Re: AFFC take two Agreed

27th July 2006, 04:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 138	Re: AFFC take two I admit I liked it more the second time around. I skipped the POV's I didn't like and it came alive more. I give it more credit now than before. I just hope I don't have to skip any POV's in ADWD. I have to disagree about the Brieanne parts though. No matter what I did I just found her sections useless as part of this great story. I did learn to appreciate Cersei's POV more, which is something. I may take GM's advice, cut out the parts I like out of each book and put them together into 1 MASIVE BOOK OF PLEASURE!

27th July 2006, 05:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
AryaUnderfoot AryaUnderfoot Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 881	Re: AFFC take two I was re-reading AFFC recently and enjoying it quite a bit... until my husband had finished reading ASOS for the first time and came along, frothing at the mouth, and stole AFFC right out of my hands. I was skipping over the Victarion/Euron/Aeron chapters- they all annoy me for some reason. Victarion's by far my favorite, but I can't forgive him for killing his wife so brutally.

27th July 2006, 06:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
TK-421 I Do Not Sow Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,998	Re: AFFC take two Oh Arya.... I'll forgive you for skipping over those chapters. Personally I like Aeron and of course Asha but Victarion would of made the best choice. GRRM has spent some time developing the Ironborn for a good reason I hope.

27th July 2006, 07:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
AryaUnderfoot AryaUnderfoot Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 881	Re: AFFC take two I guess I was just so mad that Euron won the kingsmoot that I didn't want to relive that agony again. I don't know... I guess they all just seem to have their heads too far up their a**es, and I deal enough with that in my personal life. Asha bothers me. I have a love/hate thing going on with her. On one hand, I think it's cool that she's downright nasty and does things her way no matter what. On the other hand, I can't help but feel that she's trying too hard, if that makes any sense. I like Brienne better- she's not as smart as Asha, but then again she's not power-hungry, which I find rather refreshing.

27th July 2006, 07:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
the smiling weirwood Axes and Saws Prohibited Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,602	Re: AFFC take two Weel, we really don't know how smart Brienne is because she's completely delusional, kind of like Sansa until recently. I'm hoping Brienne snaps out of it soon.

28th July 2006, 06:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
the smiling weirwood Axes and Saws Prohibited Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,602	Re: AFFC take two I don't think Asha has penis-envy so much as penis-disdain.

28th July 2006, 02:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Wiggum Big Pimping Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 559	Re: AFFC take two Or penis ambivalence. Now, while I did say I didn't mind the Brienne chapters, they are still to me, the low points of the book. If she's going to grow and learn, how damn long is it going to take to at least start?

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